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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Because doctors are ultimately the responsible party. In a past life, I had to deal with a lot of doctors and I can assure you they crave the respect of being the "person in charge". That respect also comes with responsibilities.

As for the other testing, meh, if the doctor has a glass of wine I'm not worried. Again, the DA and hospital ain't gonna go for that poo poo. Insurance companies might. Trial lawyers probably will.

So what?

Hell, poo poo like this is why we have trial by jury. If a doctor fucks up, goes out and has a bender because of it, they should be able to prove that to a jury. They've got the financial resources for it.

As for a brain-drain, hahahahahaha. Where would they go?



The kind of person who makes their career decisions based on financial compensation or . . . jesus loving christ, their drug use, is gonna find the US makes a pretty compelling case.

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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
How the gently caress did Libby win in Oakland? I wouldn't have thought Jerry Brown's endorsement would mean much. Dude's an asshat.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Kaal posted:

[Citation needed]

The US has some world-class graduate educational institutions available to the rich or extremely talented, but it also has a whole lot of pretty terrible undergraduate education.

Even with a bachelors, it is usually easier to get a job internationally with a US degree than from some other country. In my (totally anecdotal) experience, Local Degree>US Bachelors>UK Masters (Hong Kong may be here)>Continental Masters/degree from another country in the EU>>>Asian degree (Hong Kong may be at the top of this pile, depending on the institution).

It's even more serious with graduate programs. If you want to leave your country, US has a lot more international prestige/utility (which is really the only way we can measure "goodness" here) than pretty much anywhere else. That doesn't mean the US system isn't totally broken (it is completely broken).

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Super smart to take 580 in Oakland. That allows for reasonable doubt when it comes to any damage downtown and it keeps it nonviolent. I wwas downtown and figured when we started walking down Telegraph there'd be some shinanigans but that didn't happen because the highway was the better alternative. Super smart, super good stuff.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
So, ahh, where in Oakland should I go to see this poo poo? Ideally within walking distance of 12th and Telegraph, but any Bart Station (W. Oakland, maybe?) works.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
SD is laughably cheap, what are you talking about? I know people who love downtown for, like, $1100/mo and most people I know pay $500-800.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

I think the Tenderloin gets too much hate. I almost moved there. I'm happy with my decision to move to Oakland but I don't get why people don't like the Tenderloin. It is a little skeezy but that is why you live in a city. It's a lot more polite than the Brox, it's more like a darker Bushwick. I get how some folks will pay extra to keep the atmosphere light, I've noticed that in Oakland as well. But I can't imagine that it is really that big a deal, is it?

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I don't get that, though. When I'm in the Tenderloin, I go grab a quick bite to eat at a bangin' Burmese place (not Burma Superstar, so I get it, I'm making an unfashionable decision). Then I wander down to a loving awesome beer bar. Get pretty blackout. If I want, there are two pretty solid music venues, so I can go that direction. Personally, I usually don't, but that's because I'm not a big music guy. So, I grab a good kebab or some bangin' tacos. How is that any different from the Mission?

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I dunno. All of SF is pretty gross. But for me, the Mission is a lot grosser than the Tenderloin. Every time I go to the Mission, I feel like people are in hate-mode.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Another thing about the Bay Area is that biking is king. Bikes can be great in your neighborhood but aren't really compatible with the subway. There is always some rear end in a top hat doing it (especially in Brooklyn), but the system isn't really designed for it the way it is here. South Bay is a little hosed, but I've ferried over and made it work. Not ideal, but it beats the pants off driving. AC transit is great too. Beats the poo poo off buses in the Bronx.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
The Ohlone greenway is beautiful! But combining that with the BART would probably be easier.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Mission and Tenderloin: both super poopy.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

:ssh: that's everywhere with a public transit system.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
My wife works with homeless people and right now everybody is bracing for what will be a huge loving poo poo-storm. The system is already really over capacity.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

I don't get all the dithering. She looks pretty awesome to me. I don't agree with all of her platforms, but not all disagreements are equal. This is a problem with the left: your middle paragraph disagreeing with her is longer than the two paragraphs where you do agree with her. It reads like someone saying, "I'm not racist, but [the most racist thing you've ever heard]. But it's not about race, it's about culture." Just own it and represent the folks you like. The enemy is doing a good job cribbing from Alinsky. I'm cool with us cribbing from Goldwater.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Duck, from a farmers market

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
gently caress LIBBY! Huge disappointment.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Pohl posted:

There is an In and Out burger joint right there. Jesus, there better be a loving exit.

This guy gets it.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Christians have to stick together to keep each other safe from sodomites and other vile California natives.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I'm guessing it was a sort of chi chis thing where they got totalled on some insurance thing.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

etalian posted:

A major assumption was that the providers would play nice. "It never occurred to us in our innocence that something so vital to society would be treated like a casino," says Davis' top energy adviser, David Freeman. "We thought somehow the hand of Adam Smith would be benign."

People who say they like Adam Smith should actually read Adam Smith. He spent a lot of time addressing these issues. I know that isn't really what they are saying here, but it comes up all the time and I'm just sitting there yelling "come on!". I'm not even getting into Theory of Moral Sentiments, dude talked about similar poo poo in Wealth of Nations!

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
They are a fundamentalist religious cult.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Good to know why! Nice Polite Republican radio only told me to expect delays due to a protest.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Having protested a fair amount, chants get recycled. Especially when you are bored as gently caress.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
It got them in the news, which was the point.

Likewise, the kind of person who is going to do a protest like that is going to have a lot of political feelings. They are gonna chant about all of 'em. And they should. No one accuses MLK of being "unfocused" on civil rights because he spent a lot of energy on anti-war and economic justice.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

nm posted:

Both of those related to MLK's message. "gently caress the police" doesn't relate to theirs (though, it would relate to MLK's), and in fact, gives certain persons tools to marginalize them.

From a modern perspective . . . maybe. At the time, they were in very much the opposite direction since it fed into the whole notion that "ending segregation is Communism and unAmerican" which was a major concern at that time.

Looking to the future, I imagine it will be easy to see how a population forced into debt peonage would be highly critical of the police.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I'm going to blame unions.

And then talk about how some populations aren't as good at learning. And that maybe we should have a serious discussion about that as a society

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Which is why we have to let the free market control it. The government would just mess it up!

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Colloidal silver. California:the bluest state

Edit: or we can just wait for someone to develop an app to solve our water problems.

Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 15, 2015

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
The whole "due process" part of the Constitution was basically there to prevent this style of star court justice.

But if it were to pass, California could spend some time killing gays until a superior court filed an injunction to stop it. And maybe it could keep going on during the injunction. After that, it is a legal battle all the way up to the Supreme Court.

Thankfully, we could also create a proposition HH88 where we nullify the legal status of those executions, making them murders.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I dunno. We've already seen my scenario play out once in recent memory.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
One major problem with Austin is the lack of diversity. All the "cool" points of Austin are pretty much "Whites Only".

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

computer parts posted:

Austin really is a PNW city after all.

It's actually more of a fusion. It's got a lot of Vermont in there too.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Forceholy posted:

So White people who look and try to act liberal, but are actually libertarian as gently caress.

That's more of a Bay Area thing.

Austin and the PNW will gladly have a black President, but would be uncomfortable with a black neighbor.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Historically speaking, ludditism doesn't work very well.

We shouldn't burn the almond orchards, we should burn the almond farmers. :getin:

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Nothing like a literal fascist state to hold up as the ideal for what America should be!

RIP LKY, may your son carry on your glorious legacy.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Kinda. I think there are plenty of people that would rather have a nice luxury apartment in downtown instead of a place like the Marina where prices are hilariously inflated. Especially for things like "weekend" homes that a fair number of people keep.

We aren't quite at NYC levels where "luxury apartment" is a code word for "off shore bank vaults for Emirs", people still live in our luxury apartments/condos (even if they only live there part time). Relaxing pressure on the top will make life a lot easier for the upper middle class ($120K+/yr households). Median income folks (~75K/yr households) will still be pretty hosed.

Which is why we need "poor doors" like NYC is pioneering with mixed income houses. Ideally we wouldn't have to do that and, you know, treat people like human beings instead of animals, but that's not gonna happen anytime too soon. Especially since a lot of the people driving the luxury market won't be living there full time, so they will be extra worried that the poors might steal their stuff.

It's a loving childish worldview. Just talking about it makes me depressed.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
How vertical is Brooklyn Basin going to be?

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Ron Jeremy posted:

Nyc at least has a decent rail infrastructure to get people to work in Manhattan. Marin and the 650 has nimby'd that to hell.

Not just that, but people moving to NYC basically want to live close to where they work. So do most people living in NYC. We've got a really strange situation in the Bay where people are choosing not to live near their work because they want the city life. It'd be like if the financial industry was based way out on Long Island but they all lived on Manhattan and drove. It would really create a lot of weird pressures everywhere.

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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Sure, but finance in NYC = tech in SF. Most people in NYC don't work in finance. But it has a huge impact on the city and how it is structured. Kebab vendors aren't a driving force when it comes to the upward trend in housing prices.

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