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Dead Last posted:Another fine misuse of CEQA! I really hope they manage to get a reform of that law through. It's really just turned into a political weapon, rather than something designed to preserve the environment. Actual legal systems aside - the arguments are not really strange.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:While you are right that the meta-argument is indeed sound, it's only a thin veneer over the fundamental issue caused by high housing demand and low housing supply (as are the debates over the Ellis Act). That software companies happen to have the money to throw around to get their employees into the few openings for housing that exist only highlights who the haves are, and attacking them won't fundamentally change supply, even if demand slackens somewhat. The drive to play the "I like what you have so I am taking it from you" game is definitely a more fundamental issue, but addressing that is essentially addressing American capitalism as a whole. The locals are not likely to tackle that regarding this issue. (Well then again it is The Bay so...)
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on the left posted:Also, the people who hate the highly-educated tech workers are That is just trying to paint non-computer specialists as lesser people.
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May 5, 2014 09:58
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on the left posted:Having a huge concentration of Stanford grads, tons of PhDs, and non-tech companies like Genentech/Abbot Labs that employ said PhDs makes the area pretty highly educated. Its been a while, I guess we're about due for another round of: "Well I guess they should have all been programmers  "
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May 5, 2014 11:35
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Dead Last posted:It's this kind short sighted politics that's really damaged the progressive movement in the city.
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May 6, 2014 04:36
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Armani posted:The guy I am currently seeing wants to become a K-12 teacher but not in this state. He feels California fucks the good teachers while giving horrid teachers permanent paying tenure, that government pensions to retires is killing the state, high taxes are a loving crime because the job creators will leave, etc. He also is pissed off at Unions in general and that takes some serious deprogramming to get that kind of hate down.... A bit E/N but there you have it.
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May 7, 2014 05:20
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*Sitting in OC, the Texas of CA* "Hmph. This just isnt Texas enough." *Moves to actual Texas*
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May 17, 2014 02:30
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Owls are worth more than overpaid google manchildren.  Give the owls nice homes and have the google manchildren live in tents. HBOs Silicon Valley. The documentary of the era (and area).
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May 21, 2014 07:03
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Horking Delight posted:Do you have a source for this?  Or did you mean the non-obvious thing? For Many Chinese Men, No Deed Means No Dates http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/asia/15bachelors.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 No deeds, no dates: Real-estate desire in China leaves men without mates http://seattletimes.com/html/living/2014778600_chinabachelors15.html
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May 23, 2014 08:27
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on the left posted:Everyone knows you can't appreciate art without an expensive art degree, which is why so many renowned artists went to expensive MFA programs at small private colleges.
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May 23, 2014 08:45
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Its true though. Silicon Valley money gives you pus-oozing sores and makes you a Randian monster. Its literally obscene. When America adopts the Burqa it wont be to cover the women, it will be to hide the traumatizing faces of the computer people. They also dont like art schools or something.
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May 23, 2014 10:22
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm pretty sure real journalists actually cover proposed solutions not just the problem When you follow it along it is a really lovely outlook and non-analysis. "Oh prisons in the US are criminal enterprises? Well if you cant solve it dont interrupt my Halo streak bro." "Water in the US is more and more contaminated? Why are you telling me about problems you lovely investigative reporter. My highschool economics class told me to ignore problems unless there was "Politics in the US has become the front for an oligarchy? gently caress you you non-solution bringing news monger!" Your lovely attitude was the same thing leveled at Occupy, which did more by saying HEY GUYS THERES A loving PROBLEM HERE to shift the national dialogue than your bad attitude about "noticing things" ever will.
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May 24, 2014 08:16
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Trabisnikof posted:Fine, you can criticize the concept of journalist presenting "solutions" Trabisnikof posted:I'm pretty sure real journalists actually cover proposed solutions not just the problem Trabisnikof posted:My gripe with that article is that is is kinda light on potential solutions I dont care if you think the article sucks. I do care that the attitude: "you have to design solutions or ignore problems to satisfy me" has become more normal over recent years. I think that is a far more important point than this dumb article. You arent the only one, you just happen to be the person that said it right now. A journalist (ideally) is a keen observer and competent investigator. They are not an engineer/psychologist/economist/wizard. Trabisnikof posted:I can forgive you if you didn't read that far.
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May 24, 2014 09:16
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Craptacular! posted:the suburbs become the new lower-income/affordable living habitats
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May 24, 2014 23:49
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FCKGW posted:opposing Prop 42 are the Green party I mean the real "why"? This does not seem convincing: quote:The first relates to local vs. state fiscal responsibility for complying with open government law: "Local governments are often on very tight budgets. They also have far fewer tools to raise revenue than the state, and the tools they do have are often more regressive than those available to the state." Although the Green platform is often erratic and inconsistent.
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May 26, 2014 11:35
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natetimm posted:Jacking up the sales tax is a much better alternative.
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May 27, 2014 01:59
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etalian posted:The progressive bracket system is the best idea
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May 27, 2014 02:18
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natetimm posted:No, it's rampant speculation driving the cost of houses up, which is why getting rid of prop 13 is a bad deal natetimm posted:we already pay the 4th highest taxes in the nation natetimm posted:Californians are already paying the 4th highest taxes in the country natetimm posted:CA still manages to rank 4th even with property tax being so low. natetimm posted:while still being taxed the 4th highest in the country  Do you work for Fox? You claim youve been out of highschool for a while so that options out. predicto posted:As someone who owns a San Francisco house purchased in 1992 that has more than quadrupled in value and made me a millionaire while I pay 1/4th of the property tax that my next door neighbor pays and our state slowly crumbles around me, I just want to say thank you to the suckers who voted for Prop 13 back in the day, thinking it would benefit the state. I will never, ever vote to let this windfall benefit go, not in a million years, because I am a greedy rear end in a top hat. Screw young people, screw newcomers to the state, screw the schools which used to be the best in the nation and screw the potholed roads - I got mine. 
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May 28, 2014 03:51
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etalian posted:I think everyone can agree direct democracy is a really bad idea especially when it affects things such financial inner workings. redscare posted:so most buyers are investors
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May 28, 2014 08:32
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natetimm posted:If you can find me another state where people are sitting on 400k houses they bought for 40k in the 70s where the median income for the state is about 30-40k a year then maybe you can use that state as a comparison. http://www.justice.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/20130401/bci_data/median_income_table.htm code:code:quote:April 15, 2014 Your mythic single person making $30,000 and living in a $500,000 house by themselves is a stupid line of argument. You live near SD, so in your area: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06073.html code:predicto posted:You could have a "poor granny" exemption based on actual income and assets predicto posted:They live their lives having other people carry more of the tax burden than they do, and not surprisingly, they aren't going to vote to change that. predicto posted:Oh, and don't believe any statistics you see from "The Tax Foundation." They are a business organization dedicated to cutting taxes, and manipulate and overstate every report they issue.
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May 29, 2014 07:08
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Rent-A-Cop posted:What is wrong with people from Silicon Valley? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html quote:Ocean state would have no welfare, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons
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natetimm posted:It isn't JUST grannies who benefit, it's the notion that you get to pass the property to your family at the same tax rate Is that clear enough? Its also not the tax rate. Its the assessment that the rate is applied to. natetimm posted:the vast majority of people who work here and own houses probably average 50k a year and are able to maintain a reasonable distance to work and services due to prop 13 natetimm posted:The question is whether or not that person's feeling of entitlement trumps  Regale us with tales of your superior value that demands other people pay for your roads, protection, and entitlements Lord Duke natetimm. Your Privilege of Birth makes you a more worthy citizen, and certainly The Lord God has granted you the perspective to enlighten the filthy masses with the glory of your regard. Prop 13, still being championed by idiots literally repeating the 70's propaganda that brought it about. "Think of the grannies!" quote:Owners of commercial real estate benefited under the original rules of Proposition 13: if a corporation owning commercial property (such as a shopping mall) was sold or merged, but the property stayed technically deeded to the corporation, ownership of the property could effectively have changed without triggering Proposition 13's provisions. Under current law, a change of control or ownership of a legal entity causes a reassessment of its real property as well as the real property of entities that it controls. We're all arguing with a right-wing anti-tax aristocracy-fetishist. He is literally defending sales tax. The worst tax in the economy is ok as long as he gets a free house.
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Kaal posted:It's pretty unlikely that SoCal would go red. Romney lost Los Angeles by more than 1 million votes. When you look at California in a population distortion map, the liberal dominance appears more clearly. What remains of the California conservatives live out East, and for the most part they are dwarfed by the Pacific city populations and are now being engulfed by liberal economic immigrants.
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natetimm posted:Haha man, all it takes is a little chance to manipulate the house market quote:Proposition 13 alters the balance of the housing market because it provides disincentives for selling property, in favor of remaining at the current property and modifying or transferring to family members to avoid a new, higher tax assessment. More detailed evidence of this is provided in the book Property Taxes and Tax Revolts: The Legacy of Proposition 13. Tell us more about "deserving" a "legacy" of having other people pay for your greedy rear end. You "only" have a house worth half a million dollars, you "deserve" serfs paying you tribute. http://closetheloophole.com/history quote:When Prop 13 passed, it altered the way property values in California were assessed in five ways: quote:
A permanent class of Lords and Ladies of The Estates. How Wonderful! quote:Because homeowners keep their homes for longer, young households often rent for longer before buying a house. Because Proposition 13 is a disincentive to sell, there is less turnover among owners near the older downtown areas, and prices have appreciated fastest in these areas. Young people who would be wealthy in other states are "house poor" in California, and are forced to live dozens of miles from their workplace in order to afford a home. Thus, the Proposition can be seen as a transfer tax from the working classes to the retired class, as retirees are subsidized and the young have fewer working hours in their day because of long commutes.
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natetimm posted:EDIT: Yes, me and the majority of Californians believe that what we work our entire lives for should be passed down to our kids. Including our tax rates. natetimm posted:gently caress the Neo-liberal socialist mentality Its pretty amazing.
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natetimm posted:Yes you've been taught your talking point very well. I am fine with you tax dodging, as long as we sever water/power/police/roads from you. Make your own way Rugged Libertard! natetimm posted:Born lucky, I deserve it. I smart! on the left posted:Fair share of taxes really should be determined by income level, rather than the value of illiquid assets. Wealth must be taxed. You dont get to be an Aristocrat that is swimming in piles of money and then pull the "Well I am not making any money!" while lounging in your mansion and using public services paid for by everyone else. Craptacular! posted:I just don't want to have to live worse than my parents did. Craptacular! posted:I'm fine being taxed up the rear end if I sell a property, to make up for lost property tax revenue. Leperflesh posted:I can definitely understand why a family might want to ensure the family home, which family members grew up in, remains part of the family forever. All I can say is that I think such a family ought to be able to do that while still paying the going rate in taxes on their asset; that ought to be accomplished by real wages keeping up with real property values, and that ought to be accomplished by a package of regulations and stimulus and tax policy that is fair and wise. Unless, say, they end up with more than one house, and they just dont want to pay taxes because they are a special class of people that gets to collect rent and pay nothing. You know... like a loving feudal lord. Maybe we can drop all property tax on a single property under $xxx, and tax all additional properties at 40%. But then the leeches wont be able to own multiple homes when they are finally done waiting for relatives to die. 
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on the left posted:It's very easy to tax an asset when it is converted into money somehow. It's very difficult to tax an asset when it isn't touching the "real money" portion of the economy. Adding to student life-debt is a bad plan in almost every way. Thats had (and will have more Im sure) its own threads.
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on the left posted:Why is it a bad idea to tax the possession of an extremely valuable asset whose replacement value is growing at double the rate of inflation? Why are houses and cars different from a college degree? We should ideally be taxing the people most able to afford it: people who went to expensive private colleges, especially people who doubled/tripled the investment by going to med/law/professional school.
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natetimm posted:Prop 13 locks in property tax under a variety of conditions. It's value when assessed in 1978 if you bought it before then or it's price when you bought it after that. Then it locks in the rate increase at 1% a year instead of reassessing the value of your house every year. If someone in your family inherits the house they get the old rate. The rest of us dont owe you anything. No one wants to pay for roads or sewage upkeep leading to your house. Pay your own part. Thats how communal/public things work. The fact that you have claimed that tax rates should be inheritable goods is completely 
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FRINGE posted:The fact that you have claimed that tax rates should be inheritable goods is completely natetimm posted:Typical tax and spend mentality. natetimm posted:Nobody should have it better than you. If we cut you off from public goods, then I dont care if you dont pay taxes. I hear Somalia is nice.
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May 31, 2014 02:02
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Some rear end in a top hat literally just proposed a birth lottery in order to keep his unearned loot.
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natetimm posted:CA takes a lot of unskilled labor to keep afloat and yes, I prefer the birth lottery system to one where people from out of state continually move in and drive the price up on everything, relegating anyone who makes less than 50k a year to "serf who rents in the desert" status. It's way better than the free market dick you're chugging down every chance you get. I'm now a free marketeer! Who knew? Being in favor of taxes makes you a free-marketer! Being in favor of minimizing Birthrights makes you a free-marketer! Being in favor of sharing the cost of public infrastructure makes you a free-marketer! You really dont know what any of these words mean. I would think you were a gimmick but youve been at this for too many years to not mess up. You are so desperate to spit out a label that you keep hitting yourself in the face. I actually agree with some of your sentiments, but you need to divorce those from your personal greed. If you want to protect the non-wealthy then you tax land and not work. If you have feelings on this issue beyond GIMME GIMME GIMME ... then check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism quote:... FRINGE fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 31, 2014 |
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Leperflesh posted:Steve Ballmer: "Some businessman from Washington." hahaha (Youre thinking of Oregon...)
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FCKGW posted:Balmer was recently kicked out of the only company he's ever run. He owes nothing to Seattle and has no reason to stay in the Pacific Northwest anymore. He's setting up camp in LA now and I doubt the team is moving anywhere.
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If closing the plant (or keeping it, or sending it to the loving moon) gets people to shut up about sugar filled hot sauce then good. People think they like 'spicy' food when all they are doing is pouring sugar on all their food. Because out of everything going on in the world that loving mattered.
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Kaal posted:Sriracha has the same amount of sugar in it as ketchup (20%), and less than BBQ sauce (35%). If you like vinegar-based hot sauces like Tabasco, good for you, but don't think that you're doing some healthy alternative by pouring it on your cheese fries.
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CPColin posted:Really, the media should be championing alternative voting systems like Instant-Runoff Voting or Range Voting; they'd have so much more fun stuff to explain on election nights! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Mark my words: when the culture war bullshit is over and gay marriage and weed are no longer issues people give a poo poo about, a shitload of formerly Obama-loving Silicon Valley types will start voting for and supporting the GOP.
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http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/24322-the-fine-art-of-evictionquote:Tutors in the Fine Art of Eviction Under Fire in San Francisco They have made a career out of being utter shitbags.
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enraged_camel posted:there are lots of intelligent people working in the startup space on meaningful, impactful and ethical projects.
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