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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Spazzle posted:

Do you ever know what you're talking about?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

https://twitter.com/nwsvegas/status/1698137271336415310

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Sep 3, 2023

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

If she dies or retires in office, newsome gets to appoint his second senator this decade, right? Why give the unwashed masses the opportunity to vote for a new senator for the next 30 years we'll just keep reelecting the appointees

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Whoops yes sorry

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

That is a ban hammer. Welcome to 1999

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Tayter Swift posted:

CAPS doesn't have any sort of strike or benefits fund so... yeah time to save up if you're under them.

Seems like a pretty important tool to have to perform any kind of effective strike

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

If the state scientists do a wildcat, water sampling of SF Bay won't occur as planned

If state prison guards go on strike that's front page news and maybe a prison riot or three, plus a major strike against any politician who campaigns on "tough on crime"

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

My cousin is a state scientist for Oregon, he's part of a team of like, probably way too few people, under 10, who are in charge of dealing with invasive pests (insects) that will destroy crops. Running/managing the programs, doing outreach to extremely distrustful farmers, working on studies and actively eliminating invasive crop pests. Literally makes sure there's food on your plate, but also,

Cactus Ghost posted:

i mean, for the kind of "worth" that matters to politicians, he's probably right

Yeah

I support the scientists but invasive crop bugs don't buy votes unless it's a dust bowl scenario

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

BeAuMaN posted:

Out of curiosity: distrustful on what level, apart from farmers being generally distrustful? Like not letting them put pest traps on their property to collect and study? Or...?

I know they're common on my grandparents farm since they adopted Integrated Pest Management early.

Distrustful on a "this is my loving property, I pay my loving taxes, now stay out of my loving business" level

Having someone from the literal government show up at your house and tell you to do things on your land or maybe even Daddy's land, differently for a lot of people is a blind rage "Becky, get my gun" moment for a lot of people, even if it's a voluntary, opt in situation (although even a single opt out means that years campaign will be a failure)

Specifically they wanted to spray the land with a particular chemical tailored for a specific non native, invasive pest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCedOQJ0ZEA

Obviously this is not the first time they've done this, they send out mailers, attend city/county planning meetings, farmers association meetings etc the job is actually 90% community outreach, 10% actual science/trying not to get shot at

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Sep 15, 2023

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Maxine Walters is 85 though? Hopefully they assign someone under the age of 70 at least, although I'm not holding my breath. Average age in California is ~36-37 would be great to see someone under 50

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

i challenge the california electoral process to, for once, convince me that the party does not, in fact, decide

Don't political parties sort of imply you're outsourcing control and planning to the party

I forget on the California ballot, but in Texas you had the option to tick a box at the top that literally just said "vote straight party ticket: democrat/republican"

I would love to see an amendment where all state wide elections are invalid unless independent or third parties get at least 7% (or whatever statistically significant amount) of the vote to break up the extremely disfunctional two party system

As much as I hate the tea party and their questionable origins and dealings with the Koch brothers, and everything else, they appear to be functioning as a valid third party in generating legislative chaos that might force everyone else to be marginally effective at governing. Maybe.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

yes, we just hold primaries to waste the office of the secretary of state's funds

I'm invoking Poe's Law, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

That is an extremely long wind up, but A+ on relevance :golfclap:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

SolarFire2 posted:

Madame senator, this is a morgue.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Hadlock posted:

Maxine Walters is 85 though? Hopefully they assign someone under the age of 70 at least, although I'm not holding my breath. Average age in California is ~36-37 would be great to see someone under 50

I guess she's 45ish years old? So not another boomer, that's cool. Her resume looks like she was Gavin and Kamala's political fixer on the campaign trail, and has had a number of unelected quasi governmental positions, so getting appointed senator for life makes perfect sense. It was either this or federal judge and she doesn't have the law degree so I guess Senator is it

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

VorpalBunny posted:

Considering how quickly he appointed someone, maybe he had her in mind all along? Maybe he owed her a huge political favor?

Is that not obvious

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

She probably started shopping for a home base in Maryland just outside of DC as soon as Gavin promised her the seat. Feinstein apparently survived long enough that Feinstein wanted back into the capitol building, defying predictions she'd pass away in 2022

When did Gavin announce the black female thing? Probably two days before the ink dried on that Maryland estate outside of DC.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah that tracks

I'm sure she'll be closing on a studio condo in LA to meet some bare minimum residency requirement with the media

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Vegetable posted:

Caste discrimination bill is a hindu vote loser

Why?

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Can someone explain it to me like I'm five why anyone would be opposed to caste discrimination legislation? Someone in one of the (four?) California threads alluded to Hindus not liking the law but didn't respond when I followed up as to why. Presumably if you're a top caste you want to keep hiring your friends from the same caste and not have to worry about legal repercussions of keeping others out? This isn't a topic I spend a lot of time thinking about except when the law came up for a vote

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I remember in the 80s being mad about cursive instruction, and the next year finding out I was the last class to get cursive instruction

This is madness, no

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah I scrawl barely legible notes to myself on a 6x9 steno pad, it's my preferred organisational system for work stuff

Outside of that the only time I write stuff down is usually signatures on documents a handful of times per year. Penmanship is a worthless skill in today's society I'd prefer that time be used teaching budgeting or taxes or financial planning. Calculating how much of your monthly budget your car payment is going to take up is highly valuable

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Because a lot of us are old enough to have been forced to learn it, never use it, and are stunned to see it forced upon the next generation

My signature isn't even cursive any more it's a tremendous waste of resources and the school day is short enough as it is

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I would imagine video games and cell phones provide adequate fine motor blah blah

If there is some low bar of "learning how to do skill acquisition" maybe pick something that has an economic benefit besides being able to read your great grandmother's birthday cards

I guess you're playing devil's advocate, but I don't see this as a defensible position bordering on absurdist

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Sounds like a great society

We're what 38th in math, 24th in science globally (2018)

Maybe let's not sit at the bottom of the first world leader boards before we start expanding art and PE programs

Adding new bullshit cursive curriculum at the cost of literacy, math and science is pretty loving dumb, IMHO. Might as well start adding underwater basket weaving as far as I'm concerned. Actually you can sell wicker baskets on Etsy, that's demonstrably a better skill than what's effectively cuniform

I don't think anyone is talking about cutting art any further

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

by the time todays kids enter the work force, all blue collar work will be done by lovely robots and you'll be like frank sobotka sitting around in an empty union hall

:drat:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Because you need to know how to do your own taxes, and is the bedrock for teaching logic across all cultures for the last 4000-6000 years. Vs cursive, which.... maybe 500 million people across the entire span of human history have ever known or used, and is now on the edge of being a dead writing style

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

It just doesn't add up

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

The "we're not qualified to debate this" defense doesn't work when it's a dead form of language nobody has used in the workplace in 20, maybe 30 years. It's not a medical diagnosis or whatever

I'm curious about the guy in the shop still using cursive though

The price cap on insulin is a real bummer but I don't take it so I don't know much about it. Let the bike shedding about cursive continue.

Probably he vetoed it because he's got some sweetheart deal with the pharmacutcal industry/trying to keep their research campuses in California. San Francisco passed a big life sciences bond at the beginning of covid to attract more investment there

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Is there any other low hanging fruit the state could start producing like this

One thing that sticks up is Viagra, but I would imagine it would get stiff resistance

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Wegovy/Ozampeic (however you spell it) the patent expires in 2031 but only for the injectable version. The pill version (i.e. no needles floating around your house) won't go out of patent for quite a long time yet.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah that's just pure evil, only half a step down from stealing oxygen bottles out of the NICU

If his house hasn't burnt down by the end of the day I'd be surprised

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

First of May posted:

Schools should teach useful life skills, like how to use a Linux command line.

You're not wrong

I can't find the article right now but california in particular is having trouble filling computer science K-12 teacher positions

Computer touching should be taught cheek and jowl alongside wood and metal shop, as boomers age out of the workforce all the scripts that run the back office of all these small businesses need to be maintained and updated. Not everyone needs to be a $300,000/yr full stack FAANG guy developing VR headsets nobody uses/buys

I took ap computer science (objectie c++) in high school, you get an hour of instruction every day, even the teacher noted that college students would come back 1, 2, 3 years later and pointed out that one year of computer science in high school is equivalent to over a year and a half of computer science in college. Two full years of computer science in high school covers the first three years of practical theory and applied practice of computer "science". I never finished college but those two years of computer science in high school have dragged me out of minimum wage chain resturaunt food service and into home ownership. I definitely feel there is significant value in propping up comp sci in K-12. Certainly enough that I'd trade cursive for it.

Also got some grim programming instruction in elementary school, the teacher's son found a bunch of late-70s very very early 1980s era TRS-80 (lovingly nicknamed "trash 80") in a dumpster, cleaned them up, brought them in, along with a bunch of back issues of BASIC programming magazines all we had to do was type in the programs printed in the back of each issue (with no typos) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Oct 22, 2023

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

DeadlyMuffin posted:

Do wood and metal shop still exist in most schools? I wasn't aware of any where I grew up. My dad talked about them when he was in highschool in the 60s, but I figured they were long gone.

In seattle area we had wood and metal shop 7/8th grade and in the dallas suburbs we had wood and metal shop in 9/10th grade and auto shop 11/12th. That was all ~20 years ago though

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Could you at least get to whatever stupid/wrong point you're trying to make instead of these never-ending shaggy dog posts?

It's the last two sentences of paragraph two

Sorry I tried to add context, I'll try and keep it to single sentence critical remarks instead of contributing to the discussion :tipshat:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Amtrak has always run at a loss except for the NE corridor. The justification has always been "it's not a viable business so we must run it as a government owned company, because if we don't the infrastructure around will crumble and it'll never return"

Pretty sure people who left for the new world did so because all the viable land had been spoken for by the same ten or so families for the last two thousand years and wanted a go at generating that kind of wealth for themselves. First generation immigrants are consistently some of the most successful people

The remaining families still sitting on their Spanish land grants in Texas and California today are doing pretty decently for themselves

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

SlimGoodbody posted:

Jesus, climate change is getting less and less "future theoretical" every day

Republicans seem to have largely dropped "global warming is a hoax" as a campaign trail talking point

Mississippi River was saltwater something like 50 miles upriver of new Orleans this fall, and that was with the army corps of engineers putting a giant sand berm to separate the fresh water from salt in August

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Dec 29, 2023

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Unusually warm storms coming through from the south Pacific meant that the snow line for most storms were way above the usual level. After the rain events ended the (theoretical) dropped about 1,000' as winter temperatures resumed

I saw an article the other day speculating if Shasta might need to activate their spillway at some point

Not great but not terrible

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

As soon as we stop growing and exporting food for other states we'll have more than enough water to go around. Bing bong, so simple

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Also came here for snow level chat. This most recent storm (still ongoing?) The snow level is at 4,000 ft so we're looking at 18-36" in the usual areas and even 6" in the mid levels

Global warming bad and all that, but this was a very good storm for the snowpack

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

California is fine except welfare tax dollars don't seem to be very effective if you look at overall outcome in relation to how high income taxes are

I have commentary on over regulation but I think we've hit the high water mark for regulation as the NIMBY voting bloc ages out of life

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