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MourningView posted:Jake Locker should have played safety.
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May 1, 2014 22:25
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May 1, 2014 23:03
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So, have there been any mysterious disappearances on the road between Houston and Oakland since that signing?
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May 1, 2014 23:07
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The Raiders rule. e: I actually like all the AFC:W teams except Denver, because gently caress them.
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May 1, 2014 23:09
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loving Christ, he looks more like Birkenstock salesman than a football player.
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May 1, 2014 23:11
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Herman Moore owns. I had almost erased Stefan Logan's last season from my brain. Thanks TFF.
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May 1, 2014 23:22
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FizFashizzle posted:The redskins would have already locked up the NFC east. Already have, bruh.
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May 1, 2014 23:28
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Wow, now when I'm having a rough day in the gym I can think back to this and be like 
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May 2, 2014 00:19
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the beads of sweat, the half-grimace, the week of unshaven stubble curled into a snarl, the look of a man that just finalized his divorce and is going to tear up the over-40 dating scene
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May 2, 2014 00:31
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I just read that Cutler's backup this year is Jordan Palmer. Bears better draft a QB in the 3rd-5th rounds, because hoo boy.
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May 2, 2014 00:40
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Everyone's drafting a QB in the 3-5 rounds.
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May 2, 2014 00:53
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Atticus Finch posted:Everyone's drafting a QB in the 3-5 rounds. Also two WRs, a DB and a RB.
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May 2, 2014 01:17
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Abugadu posted:I just read that Cutler's backup this year is Jordan Palmer. Bear's back up QB position has been dire every year except for last year when it inexplicably wasn't.
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May 2, 2014 01:29
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Bear Pasco is a Falcon now.
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May 2, 2014 02:06
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DupaDupa posted:Bear's back up QB position has been dire every year except for last year when it inexplicably wasn't. For awhile you had Orton and Grossman flip flopping. But yeah, you've had some poo poo backups. I was amazed how well Mccown did, and I don't think it's because his receivers bailed him out. Dude was making the smart throw every time. edit: ahaha forgot about this one - "In what is often regarded as one of the worst trades in NFL history, the Bears dealt their eleventh overall draft pick to Seattle for Rick Mirer. Erik Kramer, then a free agent, opted to re-sign with the Bears because he felt winning his old starting job back from Mirer would be easier than competing elsewhere. Kramer indeed won his starting job back -- during the pre-season. In Mirer's career as a Bears' QB, he threw six interceptions and no touchdowns."
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May 2, 2014 02:31
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davecrazy posted:Bear Pasco is a Falcon now. I'll make a thread.
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May 2, 2014 02:40
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Lol I can't believe Schaub is a Raider
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May 2, 2014 03:08
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commy gun posted:I'll make a thread. Somebody has to replace Tony Gonzalez
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May 2, 2014 03:09
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To Photoshop!
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May 2, 2014 03:23
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Dattserberg posted:I don't know what was more "Schwartz", the last half of the 2013 season or the entire 2012 season. Goddamn were they an undisciplined mess. Thankfully now we have a non-hothead coach who won't discipline. The Lions are the only team in history to give up a kick return touchdown and a punt return touchdown in consecutive games. And then the Bills hired the special teams coordinator responsible for that. And then they hired Schwartz, and also Stafford's accomplished quarterback coach. I don't know what they're doing in Buffalo.
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May 2, 2014 03:36
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I've always been fascinated by how much qbs can lift ever since that picture of the Miami hurricanes weight board got posted and we saw how much of a god vinny testaverde was.
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May 2, 2014 03:37
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This is the most I've ever wanted a season to end in a Raiders Super Bowl championship
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May 2, 2014 03:40
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Schaub is definitely embracing his role as a Raider. Dude, looks like a straight up pirate. If you told me that guy had rickets I'd believe you.
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May 2, 2014 03:52
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Look at all that anger in his eyes! After being discarded by his former team, Evil Schaub emerges. Definitely has the beard of a man who went through a few whiskey bottles in sadness and disappointment.
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May 2, 2014 03:56
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God, the Raiders are going to win the AFC west this year, aren't they?
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May 2, 2014 03:57
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No Butt Stuff posted:God, the Raiders are going to win the AFC west this year, aren't they? Just three plane crashes away.
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May 2, 2014 03:59
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I like how asymetrical his arms are. Uh, speaking of strength and conditioning, the main concern about Manzeil is his small size and that he'd be easier to injure, right? Why can't he bulk and lift a poo poo load of weights during the off season and preseason and get big and mean? Like, I lift, and without any professional help or changing my diet, I've put on 5 pounds of muscle and really increased stability and functional strength. I imagine with all the coaching staff and nutritionists, they MUST be able to do something with him. Can anyone comment on that? I'm interested to know how it works/ if it can really change things.
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May 2, 2014 03:59
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wtftastic posted:
It certainly worked for AJ Jenkins. You still need a frame that can carry and move with that extra bulk. If not, you're just going to slow yourself down and probably get injured a lot. Edit: forgot a T. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 05:48 on May 2, 2014 |
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May 2, 2014 04:06
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wtftastic posted:I like how asymetrical his arms are. No amount of lifting will make grow over 6 foot tall. Also, its less his frame that is the problem, there are tons of guys his side at WR and RB for instance, its his play style. He, like lots of other college QB's tends to run a lot more than he should. If he plays the same way he does in college as he does in the pros, he is going to get hit a lot more often, which increases the risk of injury.
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May 2, 2014 04:08
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wtftastic posted:I like how asymetrical his arms are. "bulking" certainly happens at the pro level but not to the extent someone new to lifting will see. For the most part, an athlete is done gaining muscle mass in the nfl once they reach about 25-27. At that point the wear and tear of the game gets too much for them, and they're just trying to keep it together. Strength training programs, especially for skill positions like QB, are primarily about getting back into game shape. They heal for 2-3 months, then try to get back to where they were. "Gains" isn't the primary goal like someone doing a bro split. Gaining muscle doesn't necessarily make them a better quarterback, either. Arm strength is more dependent on biomechanics and technique than anything else. Stand up and raise your right hand like you're saying the pledge of allegiance. Now hold that position and try to pull your hand backwards so that your forearm is parallel to the ground. Look how far away you are and how tight your shoulder feels. Mike Vick can get parallel. Next time you're at the gym, put an empty barbell on your back in the back squat position, place your elbows under the bar, and press up. It will be very difficult. Even when he was still very young by strength training standards, Peyton Manning could do 75k.  Another reason QBs don't lift substantial weights, besides it being waste of time, is they're better suited spending that time watching tape, practicing with WRs, working on footwork, etc. Lifting weights can throw off your natural body mechanics. Most of your overhead sports like pitching, throwing a football, serving a tennis ball etc require more coordination and leg drive than anything else. These guys don't typically lift weights, with some notable exceptions. Keep in mind, the biggest gym rat QB we've seen enter the NFL could barely throw the ball 30 yards.  Finally, like Swickles says, it doesn't matter how sick nasty swole manziel gets. He still hurfs and durfs around out there before throwing up wounded ducks for whomever comes down with it. That was cute in college, but in he's going to be a sitting duck for linebackers and defensive ends who will have 100 pounds on him that are faster than him and are trying to kill him.
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May 2, 2014 04:24
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Coldforge posted:I certainly worked for AJ Jenkins. The Lofa Tatupu effect. Dude was never the same after he decided to bulk up. Though part of that was likely due to an injury as well.
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May 2, 2014 04:35
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Training camp doesn't start until the AJC writes the annual article about Matt Ryan hitting the weight room more than ever.
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May 2, 2014 04:40
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FizFashizzle posted:I've always been fascinated by how much qbs can lift ever since that picture of the Miami hurricanes weight board got posted and we saw how much of a god vinny testaverde was. Do you have a copy of this? e: also my initials are AJC so I just flinched reading the above post poly and open-minded fucked around with this message at 04:58 on May 2, 2014 |
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May 2, 2014 04:44
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Goddamn fiz great post
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May 2, 2014 04:44
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HappyHelmet posted:The Lofa Tatupu effect. Dude was never the same after he decided to bulk up. Though part of that was likely due to an injury as well. Daunte Culpepper was never the same after the sex boat. Rehabbing in a parking lot was a minor contributing factor.
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May 2, 2014 04:50
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Arctic Baldwin posted:Do you have a copy of this? Nah, I can't find it. All I remember was he still had every single QB lifting record.
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May 2, 2014 04:55
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Coldforge posted:I certainly worked for AJ Jenkins. Can we call putting on a lot of weight on a frame that's too small to handle it 'Tatupuing'? edit: God drat, that's what I get for sitting on my reply for a while. Schwack fucked around with this message at 05:08 on May 2, 2014 |
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May 2, 2014 05:02
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I prefer 'Bostoning' but I don't know that anyone's frame is meant to handle what he did.
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May 2, 2014 05:07
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Vinny should be in the Hall of fame, there I said what we were all thinking.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Vinny should be in the Hall of fame, there I said what we were all thinking. Frankly I don't think his record of 123 losses as a quarterback will ever be broken. You have to imagine that any quarterback with that strong of a losing record will probably stop getting jobs sooner rather than later in the modern NFL. Favre is second in QB losses at 112. Both were physical freaks of longevity. Edit: Lol quote:National Football League Players Association president Gene Upshaw, unaware that his comments could be heard by anyone viewing through a direct satellite uplink, once commented during an NFL Live! commercial break that Testaverde was so dumb that he would drag the electric cord through his swimming pool while trimming the hedges, and claimed himself to be a better quarterback (Upshaw was a retired offensive guard) than Testaverde.
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