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I was looking over the candidates in the Euro election in Scotland: we have the people that you'd expect (Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, SNP, UKIP, Greens, BNP); some BNP splinter group called "Britain First" and No2EU. There's at least left unity this time since the SSP and the SLP aren't bothering to stand candidates, although I can't see them coming any higher than seventh: and that's me being optimistic about how much the BNP vote will move to either UKIP, back to Labour or split with the BNP splitter party. The No2EU idea is a could one with Euroscepticism being high, although its a failed venture because Eurospecticism in the UK isn't reasonable but based on "IMMIGRANTS STEALING ARE JOBS!!!", which a left-wing party can't really support without being a little hypocritical...
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MyFaceBeHi posted:A facebook "friend" of mine has liked their page after sharing some story about how Burkas are evil because "WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?!?!?! They're standing in two regions including Scotland: I question why a far-right British nationalist party would waste their time standing in Scotland when the BNP got 2.5% in the last Euros, the height of their success across the UK...
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May 4, 2014 02:37
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tdrules posted:UKIP's "small & medium business spokesperson" is Pakistani, his website is an absolute delight Yes, the number one worst thing about the EU is the Working Time Directive: which limits the working hours of an employee to 48 hours a week unless they opt out.
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May 5, 2014 22:05
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Sorry Sir; I think you find that you don't own the land that your house is on: Land Registry Services Ltd (a Tesco company) found that we own it and can build a supermarket on it. Now get off my land, or we'll charge you with trespassing!
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May 5, 2014 23:39
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Please don't base ideas on Scottish voting behaviour on a cross-break of a UK-wide poll with a sample size of around 100. That's literally a Margin of Error of around 10%; makes it practically useless to judge anything about voting behaviour. Saying that: the last proper poll that I saw (a few weeks ago now) had the Tories on 12% and UKIP on 10%: so it is something that's not out of the question though  . Although I don't see UKIP getting much more than that right now: the Tories are right down to their core, and I don't see that many UKIP voters floating around in Labour or the SNP...
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May 10, 2014 12:57
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LemonDrizzle posted:Hmmm, the last two proper Scottish polls are ~3 weeks old and put UKIP on 10%, so Farage is right - they only need a very small swing to nick an MEP from the SNP. They'd be nicking one from the Tories I imagine. 2 SNP/2 Labour are guaranteed: the fights are between SNP/Labour for a third one and between the Tories/UKIP for the final one...
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May 10, 2014 14:30
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LemonDrizzle posted:I'm not so sure about that - I suspect that the Tories are already at their floor in terms of support and the only Scots who are still voting for them are so thoroughly dyed in the wool as to be immune to UKIP's charms. I think they're more likely to pick off a bit of soft Labour or SNP support; taking a percentage point or so from either (or ~0.5% from both) would give a 2/2/1/1 split. The problem with Scottish polls are that they are done so irregularly that its really hard to work out trends. It looks like the SNP is down since the start of the year: but because there hasn't been that many polls its not something that you can be 100% sure about. Its not like you can look at them like you currently can with UK Euro polls; where you have at least one a day so you can track how parties are going over longer trends. I checked the latter thing with a D'Hondt method calculator and that is true: so its a lot closer that I thought it was... We really need a new poll to be 100% sure how recent events have changed things though: especially one done after his Scottish campaign launch...
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May 10, 2014 15:57
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The problem with Scottish Labour is that a year after Johann Lamont was elected leader, she said that Scottish Labour should repeal lots of the universal benefits introduced by previous Scottish governments (stuff like free prescriptions, free elderly care, free university education) with one of her reasons being that they were "electoral bribery" from Alex Salmond even though most of them were introduced under the Labour/Lib Dem coalition. The problem is that they've not said anything about them since 2012 so no one is really sure whether looking into abolishing them is Scottish Labour policy or not, and we won't really know until before the 2016 Scottish election since Scottish Labour won't stand under their own manifesto in 2015. Scottish Labour appear to the right of the SNP on most issues: whether its just because the SNP are there that's causing them to appear that way or whether they actually are compared to the UK party is hard to say until the next Scottish election... I know all of the food bank stuff is pretty well known in this thread, but a friend of mine shared on Facebook this video of a guy from a Scottish voluntary food bank speaking in a Scottish Parliament committee debate. I think its pretty good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ZMwp1elXw
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May 11, 2014 15:26
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I've just been looking at the European election polls, and I've just realised that UKIP was actually leading in them . I assumed that they were close to Labour, but still behind them. Its may only be a few more votes: but UKIP "winning" the Euro elections (despite probably having less power in the European Parliament as all their old pals have flocked towards Le Pen's group that UKIP are refusing to join) will give them a huge credibility boost for next year...
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May 12, 2014 14:15
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The General election polls have UKIP still in the low teens: but I could see that changing if they had the "we won the election; we're relevant!" card... Its not like UKIP are going to be relevant in the next parliament: they've got a chance to get a few Tory seats I imagine but they won't win a great deal. The biggest fear that the Tories have is that UKIP being at 15% pretty much eliminates any chance they have to get a majority government: which would still be on the cards if UKIP were still a joke party - I know Labour are still leading, but usually the polls move towards the government as the election approaches, so its still not certain yet.
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May 12, 2014 14:34
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I know that UKIP aren't going to win the general election unless the entire country goes insane and Farage gets 40% of the vote. I'd just rather that they don't get a decent share of the vote and no seats: because then I'd have to agree with UKIP about how it'd be undemocratic that they weren't in parliament...
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May 12, 2014 14:47
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Here's Britain First's European election strategy video from their... leader? It calls English people living in Scotland and Wales "multicultural refugees" and says that their reasons behind standing only in Scotland and Wales is to get a PEB (which makes sense) and spends a bunch of it talking about how there are a bunch of English people in Scotland... e: haha they're calling a 15 line call centre "very modern" IceAgeComing fucked around with this message at 21:22 on May 13, 2014 |
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May 13, 2014 21:20
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Its actually quite clever to decide to stand only in the two parts of the UK that give you access to a PEB (I know NI does, but I doubt that they have any members and I don't know what you need in order to get one there due to the different electoral system and such) since it means that you can produce something like that and get more media attention due to people getting offended by the poo poo that they peddle. Its the reason that they chose "Remember Lee Rigby" as their election slogan: they'll get more attention because people will get rightly offended at a fascist group using a terrorist attack to try and win votes. It'll not win them elections, but will get them members, and thus cash. ...its something that you'd only do if you had no money and hadn't a cats in hell's chance to win in one of the English regions that they'd get more votes in mind, but still more intelligent than what most of these groups do.
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May 13, 2014 22:38
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Seaside Loafer posted:Yeah I heard that too. The lady did him give him a bloody good grilling though didnt she, good on the beeb for a change! He came off like the tosser that he is Radio 4 is IMO one of the best parts of the BBC, even though it only seems to be listened to by older middle class people. I don't listen to it 24/7 (usually have Today on in the background in the morning and sometimes catch the news before other stuff is on), but from what I gather it seems like it challenges bullshit a lot more than the TV news does. Again; that's based on half-listening to only a little bit of its output, I could be completely wrong! It also annoyed the Daily Mail by naming Marx the worlds greatest philosopher (by a public vote of Radio 4 listeners) a few years ago: which is something that I can get behind!
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May 14, 2014 16:21
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JFairfax posted:In our time is loving awesome. A lecturer at my uni recommended it to my class a few months ago and I've only just gotten into it. The best thing about it is that they share literally every programme of the thing on the BBC website (and through itunes as a podcast) which is something that the BBC should really do for more things. A prime example of a typical Radio 4 programme though - something that's interesting to quite a few people, but wouldn't get commissioned anywhere else on UK radio because they'd get more listeners for another loving call-in show hosted by George Galloway. Umiapik posted:breakfast tv vacuity Somehow this has gotten worse; ITV's new thing literally has a segment called "Wheel of Cash!" on it which I'm sure has been used as a joke in some TV programme somewhere...
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It involves the House of Commons going to the Lords to watch a bunch of people wearing silly clothes doff their hats a few times. Which is pretty much the Westminster parliament in a nutshell! e: Pasco posted:UK in "Not everything is completely poo poo" Shocker: Ranked best in Europe for LGBT rights for the third year in a row Just downloaded the full map and its got quite a few interesting things: with a bunch of Central European countries being pretty good - Croatia is as good as Germany for LGBT rights for example; and Italy being one of the shittest places in Europe. I do wonder exactly what it considers past laws though: Monaco is at 10% (0% is "gross violation of human rights, discrimination" and 100% is "respect of human rights, full equality") while Ukraine is at 12%. I can't imagine that its harder to live as a gay person in Monaco than in Ukraine if only because you have France nearby which is one of the better countries in Europe regarding LGBT rights; and some of that must also influence public feeling. That sort of societal thing is much harder to quantify though: while laws are pretty easy to. IceAgeComing fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 14, 2014 |
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They said that before the anti-Farage protests in Edinburgh: their "protection" of Farage was a couple of SDL people who were chased away by the protesters. Also; I love the fact that PROTESTING someone's vile politics is apparently "stifling democracy" when protest rights are literally one of the most basic things that should be protected in any proper democracy! Not that the UK does a good job of that at all... The misunderstanding of "freedom of speech!" as being an absolute right to say anything stupid without being challenged is one thing that really annoys me...
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May 15, 2014 16:06
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From the comments: quote:Anarcho-capitalist here. Yes, we do believe in privatizing roads and police forces. "Privatization" is kind of a bad term though. There will exist many dispute resolution organizations and many road ways that arise in an anarchistic society, be they collectivized or privately owned in nature. There will simply be no centralized authority which gives them preferential treatment or compels people to become consumers.  Anarcho-Capitalists are literally the dumbest people in existence, aren't they?
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May 16, 2014 20:50
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It was ISLAM PLOTS in ARE KIDS SCHOOLS, therefore it is somewhat relevant. Still a load of bullshit, but what do you expect with a Tory government!
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May 16, 2014 21:21
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R. Mute posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3634476&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 i don't understand what any of that means
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May 16, 2014 22:28
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this is the best thing; I love it when creepy idiots post in D&D https://soundcloud.com/brian-boyko/chainsaw-hands
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There have apparently been cases of parties taking that sort of thing and trying to get it counted for them - not even your wee small lefty parties, but the likes of the Labour party because the word "socialist" is there... Just going off to vote: it'll probably be for the SNP since they're a little better than everyone else and I really don't want a UKIP MEP in Scotland and that's who they would get it from... Its either them or the Greens here anyway, and they are literally in the same Euro group so would probably amount to the same thing anyway...
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Chipp Zanuff posted:Voted for SNP since i don't think Greens have a chance in Scotland against the SNP and i'd rather the SNP get some MEPS than UKIP, Labour or the Liberal Democrats. Its UKIP that you have to be worried about : the Lib Dems are polling fifth (and maybe sixth, there's not been a poll including the Greens in Scotland) and the others are pretty set in getting a few... KKKlean Energy posted:Maybe Labour should have supported Single Transferable Vote if they wanted to pull that kinda poo poo I read it somewhere a few years ago in probably some lovely blog so it is most likely a load of rubbish: I'll try and find it if I can!
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I have a dislike for all non-transferable systems since they all make tactical voting possible and make some parties encourage it. Its used less than in FPTP; but its also less accessible to people who don't now how the maths of D'Hondt works: here you have the SNP and the Greens both shouting that people should vote tactically for them to keep UKIP out... I always view the candidate as more important than the party in the locals; since the parties will end up doing weird poo poo anyway. Like I ranked the local Tory above the Labour candidate last time we voted here a few years ago, since the Tory guy actually does a bunch of really good local stuff while the Labour candidate literally lived 60 miles away in Glasgow. Felt very wrong doing it: but surely the most basic thing that a local councillor should do is live in the ward that they run for: or at least in the council area that they are standing for? It didn't matter anyway: we had one candidate from the four main parties for three seats so voting didn't actually matter: it was always going to be 1 Labour, 1 Tory and 1 SNP: and we ended up with a Labour/Conservative council, so a vote for Labour was a vote for the Tories anyway... e: haha the Scottish Tories are standing in Scotland as "Scottish Conservatives Vote No to Independence". I think that everyone can guess what the big issue in Scotland was! IceAgeComing fucked around with this message at 14:26 on May 22, 2014 |
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Samovar posted:I saw a hell of a lot of rightest parties on the ballot (in Glasgow); was TEMPTED to vote Green for this election, but I went with SNP in the end, re. the Green's position on energy and GMOs. Compared to other places: we had comparatively few lovely parties. We do admittedly have Britain First which probably is the most fascist of the fascist parties; but other than then, the BNP and UKIP its actually mostly OK.
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They decided to keep the primary school open this year on polling day: so when I went to vote I had to walk through the playground while the kids were out, and I felt really loving weird about it. That was probably the reason why they didn't have any guys at the polling station: I don't know where they would stand. I'm sure that must be against some rule though: having random people walk through the school in order to vote with the kids being around...
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May 22, 2014 20:53
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Jacob Rees-Mogg is just the most stereotypical Tory you could possibly get.
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May 23, 2014 00:43
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argh Winston McKenzie is apparently following me: I switched to Radio 4 to avoid him and he's now on here
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That paper is also different to current exams because it covers a wide range of things that would be examined in different exams now - you have Current Affairs/Modern Studies, the Sciences, and English Literature and other artsy stuff. It probably doesn't help someone who can talk about Trade Unionism all day: but probably wouldn't be able to write an essay on the structure of crystals. That's probably one big factor - its a general paper, and they don't exist anymore. Scotland has the one exam board thing: it seems to work perfectly fine (when they remember to send exam results to the right people...) and when I first learned about the whole competing exam boards while in England and Wales, it genuinely confused me since it seems like a very dumb idea. It does have its problems (my Higher Maths paper randomly decided to ask questions about things that aren't in the course and are definitely Advanced Higher things); but since you only have one board they can adjust grade boundaries a lot more when you end up with a hard paper. Scottish and English/Welsh education are very different at every level though: so I literally know nothing about the way that schooling in England and Wales...
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Everyone ready to see the fine people that will be in the European parliament tonight?
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LemonDrizzle posted:One of Le Monde's correspondents reckons that UKIP got 22% of the euro vote: https://twitter.com/ArLeparmentier That can't be right: that's way below even their lowest opinion poll percentage. I wouldn't complain if its right, though! It'll still be spun in a pro-UKIP way though: but they should have done much better. If it is right: then the question becomes who wins overall: you might get the Tories leading since I can't see Eurosceptic voters voting for Labour...
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Darth Walrus posted:How much did they get at the last Euro election? 17% - so they are way up on last year: but not by a huge margin. Some of the polls had them in the low 30s; I've always though the high twenties though...
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May 25, 2014 21:43
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Turnout up a bunch in Scotland: perhaps having UKIP being a thing has encouraged people to go and vote against them?
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May 25, 2014 21:57
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Why are they showing random UKIP guy when they didn't show random Labour guy earlier?
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May 25, 2014 22:29
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They counted and sent their numbers in on Friday: but they aren't announcing the results for their local authority region until tomorrow because Wee Frees. The Scottish result should be tonight.
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May 25, 2014 22:37
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UKIP leading by 2% in Newark: but that's probably not good for them since they'll lose votes in a parliamentary by-election.
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May 25, 2014 22:41
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The BBC are saying that from Aberdeen there has been a swing from the SNP to Labour: but also that "the Greens might beat the Lib Dems into fourth place"; which seems to imply that either the Tories or UKIP have had a horrible result in Scotland. It might also be a mis-statement, but I hope not!
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He said it right after the Aberdeen thing without a major tone shift or something: so if he did mean that it was a little confusing. That does make sense, though!
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