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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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muscles like this? posted:

They kind of cut around it like when Joker kills Michael Jai White's character because it would be a little much even for PG-13. Basically you see the guy sitting on top of the money pile at the start of the scene and then when Joker lights it on fire they kind of don't have any reaction shot.

Since you mentioned it, Michael Jai White's death irritated me. Firstly because it's Micahel Jay White and Michael Jai White shouldn't go down so easily. Secondly, I was never quite sure what it was that Joker did to him. Just slicing open his mouth wouldn't kill him, and it would be way messier than what was hinted at.

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Non Serviam posted:

I think the movie makes it clear that everyone except the Joker will die immediately after a Glasgow smile.

It's more of a Glasgow smirk, really. He only cuts one side.

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Mar 5, 2011

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Non Serviam posted:

That's the reason. Since you're only cut on one side of your face, your chakras go out of balance and you start leaking cosmic energy. The Joker had a full glasgow smile, which allowed his chakras to retain balance, and not bleed out of cosmic energy.
This explains why the victims of Joker die immediately, no screams as their face is tore open.

I totally buy that as an explanation and will re-watch TDK in the knowledge that Joker is the Fist of the North Star.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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thespaceinvader posted:

I always thought that was kind of the point of the way that scene was shot - it shows just how little of a poo poo the joker (and I guess, his point would also be, society) gives about burning a dude alive in a truly horrible way, to not focus on it *at all* and instead have the camera, and the mobsters, all focus on the fact that he's burning the money.

Same with the mob boss he feeds to his own dogs right after. The message is that the Joker wont give a poo poo about killing you unless you wear a cape and mask.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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This chakra-based reading of Batman is really growing on me.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I think I saw this on South Park a few years ago.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Frostwerks posted:

Sparticles.

Bloodsporticus.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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poptart_fairy posted:

That's the thing that gets me though. Lets prove these robots are unnecessary by shooting wildly at them with machine guns. :psyduck:

I understand it from a film perspective - it highlights the idea that humans need to be behind the trigger, as those robots make no distinction between the fully grown men with weapons and the kid who simply picks up a carving knife - but I'm struggling to get my head around what the hell those dudes were thinking in-universe.

Just seconds ago Sam Jackson explained how the robots have completely pacified the area and that all inhabitants are happy and cooperative. The attackers wanted to show that that was bullshit, not that the robots are ineffective.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Len posted:

The fact that the movie Deep Blue Sea can happen at all. Why are they making super sharks out in the ocean instead of in an aquarium on land somewhere?

The experiments were illegal so they had their base in international waters. Alternative answer, they built a giant James Bond Villain underwater lair because it is cool and they could?


My irritation with that movie lies with the nature of the sharks' intelligence. A high IQ or whatever doesn't magically make you know what doors are.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Cowslips Warren posted:

Not to mention that sharks DO get cancer. And brain cancer as well. If I remember right Head Bitch of the lab was all about finding a cure for Alzeihmers or cancer and making giant shark brains was the key.

Wasn't the original ending having her survive, and the cook guy die instead? I read that test audiences hated it, so they reshot it so the Head Bitch died instead.

The movie did have some decent death scenes. But the sharks were horrible CGI and poo poo, just seeing their size made me laugh hard enough to piss. A shark that size would be eating grown whales. I wish they'd have done a feeding time shot. Illegally whaling to feed the giant sharks would have been the icing on the poo poo cake.

Yeah, it's the one movie I can think of where hearing about tests audiences makes me genuinely happy, because it owns that LL Cool J survives.

They did have the scene where the shark pack ate the Tiger Shark, I thought that was pretty badass. But then they disable the surveillance cameras in their tank and it's another moment where I go "Wait, how would the sharks know what cameras do?"

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I let that one slide because it could have been by accident, the shark was thrashing around pretty wildly.



I was re-watching Fallen recently. Movie owns, but I frowned a bit when they watched a video of a guy talking in some strange language and went "I don't understand a word of what he's saying, get a linguist!"

And then a linguist comes and goes "Hm yes, this seems to be Aramaic. Give me a day to translate it!"

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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You can't rhyme 'head' with 'head" :argh:

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Anosmoman posted:

The other is fights over jurisdiction. Cops show up to a crime scene but then some FBI/DEA guys in suits also show up and try to use ~~*rules*~~ to steal their case - dickwaving and douchebaggery ensues.

I love how at the start of the first Matrix movie the policemen go "Aw drat, it's the suits!" when the Agents show up. I think one of them even says "Don't start with this jurisdiction poo poo!" before Smith shuts him down.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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A White Guy posted:

True, he starred in and directed another (awful) movie called 'The Yohan' or whatever the gently caress, that was his lovely unfunny take on the Jewish vs Arab conflict.

Maybe something else, maybe about how he despises black people or something. Just something so over the keel that Hollywood can't publicly support him anymore.

'The Yohan' made me think of a movie where Sandler is a German Jew ca. 1937 who really really wants to join the SS, and hilarity ensues.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Krinkle posted:

Honestly can't believe Murder By Death didn't get the number one slot, or even a mention. Peter sellers does that me so solly krusty the clown bit for two hours.

But isn't that just poking fun at a preexisting character or trope, like all the other characters in that movie? You could complain about French stereotypes in the same movie when they're just making fun of Hercule Poirot.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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ZeusCannon posted:

Poirot is Belgian.

"What's the difference?" -Peter Falk, Murder by Death

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Last Stand is kind of amazing for doing something that usually irritates me a lot. In action movies there tend to be many instances where the participants of a shootout take cover behind things that then get all shot up. This is not so bad when they're using cars as cover, as movies have successfully conditioned me to accept that cars are as bulletproof as they need to be in any given scene to achieve drama. This applies to Last Stand as well, cars get hosed up badly in that movie. However, one bad guy takes cover behind a melon truck. He uses the water melons and the wooden boards at the sides of the truck for cover, and there are several instances where the boards and melons he hides behind get hit, but for some reason the bullets only do surface damage to the wood and pop the melons, yet the guy remains unharmed. It's simply amazing.

I seem to remember instances in other movies where people flip over tables and take cover behind them. Unless the scene takes place in a 90s Yuppie hangout where the tables are all chromed steel, this strikes me as a terrible idea.

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Mar 5, 2011

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mng posted:

Concealment is not cover!
:goonsay:

That's the thing though, the dude in Last Stand wasn't concealed. He was standing behind what amounts to a wooden fence and some water melons.

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Mar 5, 2011

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Hell, even in the cartridge days it's still a good idea. Dude has maybe 6 shots and there's a few inches of oak in the way between you and him. Flip that fucker and lay down if it's a big table, or just flip it and get your side up against it, and there's less chance of getting killed immediately.

If you get shot, it's still gonna suck but the wood is gonna stop the bullet from going in as fast and doing as much damage.

Beats the poo poo outta standing there with nothing but air between you and him and having a 100% chance of getting ventilated.

Additionally to what swamp waste said, it's never just one guy with 6 shots. It's always a group of guys, and they have rifles and machine guns and bazookas. Unfortunately the only example I can think of right now is Desperado, and that movie doesn't really count in my mind (because it owns).

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Early in Demolition Man there's a brief scene where Edgar Friendly and his goons worry that they don't have enough men to ambush some transporter for supplies. The ambush turns out to be them just bum-rushing a car outside a restaurant, and it would have gone off without a hitch if it weren't for John Spartan. That scene where Friendly worries irritates me, unless it's supposed to make him out to be an idiot.

Otherwise the movie is perfect.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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paragon1 posted:

The guys working in silos,submarines, and airbases aren't robots though! They're going to know something is up when the order to start the end of the world comes out of nowhere.

Where else would the order to start the end of the else come from? Do they get a memo a week earlier?

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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paragon1 posted:

They get the news in the military you know. Governments don't usually go from zero to NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON in sixty seconds.

How much time does it take? Usually?

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Also, Doctor Strangelove.


Mr. 47 posted:

Shakespeare's Richard III would be high on the list.

I like how Richard probably wasn't even a hunchback. I vaguely remember something about a portrait of him that, on closer examination, turned out to have the hunchback added later.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Krinkle posted:

Yeah, well, i hit you some, so don't do it again, jerk!

Super stole this shamelessly.

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Mar 5, 2011

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Krinkle posted:

Do you mean the movie from 2010? How so? The wikipedia plot summary just says he delivered a monologue at the end.

I was mostly being joke-y, but Super has a sequence where the hero whacks thieves, drug dealers and child molesters with his wrench and tells them "Don't steal/deal with drugs/molest children!" as they are lying bleeding on the ground.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Mentioning Super made me think of an irrationally irritating movie moment: I am irritated that most superhero movies kill off their villains. Recurring villains are great in comics, not just because they're fun characters but because it's a pretty direct indictment of the effectiveness of the heroes. Batman punches some schmuck and foils his plans, then the schmuck gets send to prison/hospital. Five issues later the schmuck is back again, highlighting how utterly pointless the whole thing really is. I feel most movies chicken out on commenting on this by just killing off all the schmucks.

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Mar 5, 2011

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My Lovely Horse posted:

They left the Joker alive in Dark Knight and look how that worked out.

I know you're joking, but they could have at least dropped a line about Joker's whereabouts in Dark Knight Rises, even if it was just to tell us that he got shanked in prison. I liked that he wasn't a focal point of the movie because his story was done and the actor died and whatnot, but glossing over his existence completely ignores all the wonderful :psyduck: of recurring villains in comic books.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I actually forgot about the X-Men movies, which are funny for almost always having a secondary villain besides Magneto who dies. And in the case of Stryker they brought him back anyway, twice, even though it happened in prequels.

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To some extent superhero stories are all about the villains. You don't like Bane, you can skip a month of Batman comics or two until another storyarc starts, but in the movies it's tough luck, buster, because there won't be another Batman film for three years and Bane's the only game in town.

This makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought about it that way.

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Mar 5, 2011

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ChogsEnhour posted:

Someone probably came up with this idea when someone told him, "Hey man, you know like, smoking a cigarette takes twenty minutes off your life span y'know."

Have you never heard any proverbs that liken time to money? Like the classic "Time is money"? Because that's all there is to it, I think. The people behind In Time heard somebody say that, looked at each other and then spent two hours patting each other on the back and filmed that.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I had to watch Stealing Heaven, an OK movie about a now obscure philosopher from the Middle Ages and his forbidden love affair with a hot redhead. What is irritating about that movie is that it has the single most annoying synthesizer soundtrack. The movie looked nice and had some great shots in places that helped me get over the run-of-the-mill love story, but there is something very jarring about watching Middle Age stuff but hearing music out of some really really really really cheap 80's softcore porn. Though it can't just be the synthesizer, I remember Rutger Hauer doing Middle Age things in movies accompanied by awesome synthesizer soundtracks.

Here is a trailer, which really just manages to capture a fraction of the soundtrack's awfulness.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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HopperUK posted:

Are you thinking of Ladyhawke? That has Rutger Hauer, synthesizers and Middle Age things. I want to love it but goddamn the soundtrack drives me crazy.

That's the one. I haven't seen it in ages but remember loving it as a child, synthesizer soundtrack notwithstanding. I have even dimmer recollections of Flesh & Blood, which might or might not have had a soundtrack like that, but definitely had Rutger Hauer and Middle Ages.

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Mar 5, 2011

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EmmyOk posted:

I've been rewatching Hannibal and it's a thoroughly great show but a scene I just watched reminded me of something I hate in shows. When two characters sleep together and one slips away during the night to commit a crime and then returns to bed before the other person wakes up. This gives them a "X was with me the whole night" alibi. Maybe I'm a really light sleeper but I always wake up when a girl(read: my pets) gets out of or into bed with me. It's such a risky thing to do.

Similarly, serial killers in shows don't need sleep. Any sleep. At all. People like Dexter will get home sometime between 2 and 3 in the morning, get up at 7 and make their opening credits breakfast and then work through a 10-hour day and then do it all over again. No way does someone like that live like this for more than one year before simply dropping dead.

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Tiggum posted:

Except he's actually supposedly really good at his job, they're always talking about how great he is at it. And in the early seasons I think his thing was just going after people the law couldn't reach, who got away with it. I think it's only later he started actually competing with the cops to get to the killer first.

To be fair, the early seasons also try to establish that the Miami Police Department is staffed by morons, so I could believe that they aren't in any position to assess Dexter's qualities. But yeah, the show made a point about how Dexter was a genius in his field of work, plus the MPD somehow learned to be competent along the way so that interesting bit went nowhere.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Zaphod42 posted:

Also for Angel irrational hatred [...]

Related to the vampire irritation, some time throughout the show they changed the sound effect made when a vampire bites someone, and it would sound like taking a bite out of an extremely crispy cooky or apple. It was very irritating when you have this dramatic scene where the good vampire finally decides to give in to his urges and bite someone, then CRUUUUUUUNCH.

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Mar 5, 2011

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jabby posted:

This is going back a bit, but the 2005 Fantastic Four movie.

OK, so they set up part way through the film that Johnny can reach 'supernova' level temperatures, but its a really bad idea because it risks igniting the Earth's atmosphere. Fair enough, standard Chekov's gun stuff.

But at the end of the film we have Doom, who has killed like two people, caused some property damage/reckless endangerment, and seems bent on killing the four heroes. So their solution is for Johnny to go 'supernova' as part of their plan to defeat him. Seriously? You're going to risk killing every living thing on the planet to stop one guy with superpowers who hasn't even reached the level of a decent spree killer? You don't even know what he wants! All he seems to be interested in is revenge against the four of you, so you are risking extinction of the entire Earth ostensibly just to save your own lives.

At least supervillains in other movies seem to have some over-arching plan that makes stopping them important enough to risk everything. Doom was just pissed and wanted to kill the heroes.

Doom in that movie was terrible. With the sidestory of being a douchebag business man about to be ousted from his position by the board of directors, he was just a lame version of Norman Osborne, and that just made me think of how much better Willem Dafoe would have been as Doom. And making Sue Storm his girlfriend was terrible, agh that whole movie was so terrible.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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DrBouvenstein posted:

Is that better or worse than the new reboot where he's some sort of blogger/hacker?

I'd say worse, because all it ever did was remind me of how much better it could have been. I have no idea how blogger Doom is supposed to work so I'll reserve judgment.

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Mar 5, 2011

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DrBouvenstein posted:

Speaking of Lord of the Rings, I was annoyed in The Two Towers when, as Sarumon's army approached Helm's Deep, they got nice and lined up, and started chanting, or whatever, to psych out the humans and elves.

During this time, Aragorn has instructed the archers to draw and then hold, and then some old man accidentally let's an arrow loose, and it hits and kills an Uruk-Hai. Then Aragorn gives him a stern look and reiterates to HOLD!!!!

That's my second favorite moment in Two towers because when that Uruk drops dead his pals are looking at each other in utter confusion, which then turns to anger. I always think "They killed Larry, the fuckers. That does it, attack!" when the Uruks react to their fallen companion.

My favorite moment is Theoden's face when it starts raining. It's the perfect weary "Aw gently caress, and now this" face.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I'm sure it's been discussed before, but man the police and FBI in the first two episodes of The Following make Dexter's colleagues look like a bunch of Sherlock Holmeses. Not only are they terrible at their jobs, they're also a bunch of assholes. If they used half the energy they spent sneering at Kevin Bacon's character for their job instead James Purefoy would be toast already. Does the show get better at this, because I am not sure I can take another instance of "Ohoho Mr. Bacon, not so hasty. There is no way the killer can reach this girl, we have two men on the roof and two men in the cell- oops she's dead!"

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Many thanks for the replies on The Following, I think I might give this show one or two more episodes and if they don't do something to endear this kind of forced stupidity to me I'm out. All the Bacon in the world ain't worth this.

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Mar 5, 2011

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The Hitcher remake from 2007 is by no means a great movie, but it has its moments. These moments it has are either fun or terribly annoying. Fun moments happen whenever the protagonists try to use a phone after Sean Bean broke theirs at the start of the movie, and generally Sean Bean being a total dick to them because why not? It gets annoying though whenever they drive, which they do a lot. Why can't these people just keep their eyes on the loving road for a minute?

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