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Jack Gladney posted:They recruit paranoid crazy people. This cannot be overstated. Their whole mythology is that mental health professionals are part of an alien conspiracy to suppress humanity's true powers. Prescribed drugs rob you of your superpowers, as does talk therapy. They've cultivated a fanatically loyal army of lunatics. The thing about Scientology is that they don't actually tell their followers about the wackier parts of their mythology until they've eventually spent their life savings on level-ups so that they can access the "higher knowledge" (that they could have just looked up on the internet). I imagine at least some people are far too invested in the whole thing by then so they just accept it, because drat they must feel like idiots when they get to the part about spacelord Xenu otherwise. But what is really kills me is that there are now reformist Scientologists who agree as a church the religion is corrupt and horrible, but the "core teachings of Scientology" are still important and deserve a better church around them.
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There are also the people who were born into it or joined as children with their parents. You have to feel sorry for those people at least.
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In case you are wondering, one way which CoS uses to gather information about its members' personal lives is recording their confession sessions
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DStecks posted:Not sure if you missed the entire point of the discussion, but people feel sympathy for Dahmer because you can't just throw him in the box labelled "monster" or "not really a human like I am". If you are going to sympathize with anything less than a manically laughing puppy murdering psychopath... I mean everyone is just a victim to circumstance if you really want to start going down that rabbit hole, especially those "monsters" that didn't even have the capacity know any better to begin with.
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Cobweb Heart posted:"If I lived almost my entire life constantly bullied, grievously alcoholic, repeatedly abandoned, hating myself for being gay, and increasingly unable to understand how to connect with other humans, in the middle of poo poo nowhere with no prospects and nothing to do, I would never develop any weird compulsions because I'm mentally stronger than others and humans are inherently good except for a few who aren't and that's that. Most people like that do in fact cope without committing several murders, yes.
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Basebf555 posted:No arguing that point, you're right. The person at fault for the murders is 100% Dahmer. I'm not sure why you think that's the issue being discussed though. No one is thinking that. Also, no one actually feels sympathy for every person who isn't a cartoon villain.
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DStecks posted:You're missing the point: sympathy for the victims is assumed and thus not worthy of discussion. And what is there to say about the victims of a serial killer beyond "they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, ain't that lovely?" Plus it doesn't let you be holier-than-thou with people whose hearts aren't bursting with love for all of humanity.
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Basebf555 posted:The people you're saying are holier-than-thou were simply defending themselves. The discussion wasn't an argument at all until you and others posted about how disgusting it is that somebody could feel sympathy for Dahmer. So who was really holier-than-thou in that situation? Probably the one who claims to have sympathy for every human being.
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rayne503 posted:This was a few pages back but here's a quote from the article: From the source article: quote:The murder of Raccosta was allegedly led by Simone Pepe, 24, a rival gangster, who was arrested this week.
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DStecks posted:Probably because most people just think of pigs as harmless, dopey, indiscriminant eaters, not genuine meat lovers, let alone predators. Also the fact these were domesticated pigs and the guy the mafia fed them was likely still alive. And so little remained after a few moments that it's apparently a pretty good way to dispose a body. There was another news story about man eating pigs: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/01/14173510-70-year-old-oregon-farmer-eaten-by-his-hogs?lite quote:On Wednesday morning, Terry V. Garner, a 70-year-old Oregon farmer, went to feed his animals. Several hours later, when he hadn’t returned, a family member went to look for him and found, on the ground of the hog enclosure, his dentures. A pig can really eat. BioMe has a new favorite as of 16:00 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:Is it really possible to get that lost looking for a house? Death by getting lost is a pretty legitimate way to die, especially if you aren't aware it is. Aren't people even hardwired to walk in circles? I swear I remember hearing about some behaviorist testing that by blindfolding people and telling them to walk straight across a field, which turns out is almost impossible without being able to visually pick a point to walk towards.
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