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why would you ever prefer a version of the game in which weapon enchant scrolls can arbitrarily fail
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IronicDongz posted:why would you ever prefer a version of the game in which weapon enchant scrolls can arbitrarily fail it was kind of nice when everyone wasn't running around with +9 weapons by Vaults
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Sep 7, 2014 00:52
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:e - a legendary deck of destruction (in hand) magic dart
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Sep 7, 2014 00:54
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IronicDongz posted:why would you ever prefer a version of the game in which weapon enchant scrolls can arbitrarily fail I dunno, the cool part to me is it gives you an incentive to have multiple weapons and swap. It used to take fewer scrolls to get two +5 weapons than to get one +9 one.
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Sep 7, 2014 01:14
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the incentive to swap has always been brands/hydras imo not 'this one has +whatever to accuracy'
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Sep 7, 2014 01:40
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IronicDongz posted:the incentive to swap has always been brands/hydras imo not 'this one has +whatever to accuracy' Nah, I just mean the failure chance part, I think getting rid of separate accuracy and damage was fine.
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Sep 7, 2014 01:43
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Jeffrey posted:I dunno, the cool part to me is it gives you an incentive to have multiple weapons and swap. It used to take fewer scrolls to get two +5 weapons than to get one +9 one. yeah p much my ~secret plan~ to fix this is to make it deterministically take more scrolls to upgrade weapons that are near max - say, 2 scrolls to go +6->+7 and +7->+8, three to go +8->+9. add a little counter next to the weapon in your inventory - A - a +6 lajatang of speed (1/2). something like that the current thing with enchant scrolls always working is an overall improvement over the old system. having to pray for the rng to grant you that next plus on your weapon was Not Fun. but Improvements Are Possible
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Sep 7, 2014 01:48
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I like that 'cause I do think there should be some kinda diminishing returns. Makes it much cooler to get that +9
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Sep 7, 2014 02:13
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PleasingFungus posted:yeah p much Yeah this sound better.
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Sep 7, 2014 02:15
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don't make each weapon track its fractional enchantment, just pop up a message like "This will consume 3 scrolls of enchant weapon, Y/N"
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Sep 7, 2014 02:33
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Ferrinus posted:don't make each weapon track its fractional enchantment, just pop up a message like "This will consume 3 scrolls of enchant weapon, Y/N" this is probably better, and was my initial plan, but the code will be harder & buggier might end up implementing it this way anyway, though. idk
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Sep 7, 2014 03:02
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i mean, given that item destruction is gone, when would you even bother giving your weapon a partial enchantment. i guess if you were already holding 52 items and one of them was a scroll of enchant weapon and had to pick up something else??
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Sep 7, 2014 03:11
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Ferrinus posted:i mean, given that item destruction is gone, when would you even bother giving your weapon a partial enchantment. i guess if you were already holding 52 items and one of them was a scroll of enchant weapon and had to pick up something else?? pretty much one of the things people are talking about is an interface for using items from the ground (drinking potions, reading scrolls, wielding weapons), in the same way that you can eat chunks off the ground. that would be Nice.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:49
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read/quaff interfaces could just list items on ground as well, couldn't they? or is that weird codewise
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Sep 7, 2014 05:26
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you should be able to eat corpses directly
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Sep 7, 2014 06:44
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Ferrinus posted:you should be able to eat corpses directly this but irl
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Sep 7, 2014 06:45
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Turtlicious posted:this but irl good news
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Sep 7, 2014 06:48
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Psycho Mantis species where all your items float around you at all times and you can throw them at hydrae for double damage.
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Sep 7, 2014 08:12
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pathetic little tramp posted:Psycho Mantis species where all your items float around you at all times and you can throw them at hydrae for double damage. this but irl
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Sep 7, 2014 12:52
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Ferrinus posted:you should be able to eat corpses directly
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Sep 7, 2014 16:08
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IronicDongz posted:or is that weird codewise ding
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Sep 7, 2014 16:40
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havent played crawl since i died on the orb run after getting it for the first time, poo poo was infuriating. is the new version good and did they finally remove the horrible tedium of the food clock? i beat tome 4 and basically have no interest in playing it ever again. drat that game is too long for its own good
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Sep 7, 2014 18:18
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babypolis posted:havent played crawl since i died on the orb run after getting it for the first time, poo poo was infuriating. is the new version good and did they finally remove the horrible tedium of the food clock? yeah the food clock is gone, they made a really easy class that doesn't ever have to mess with it - mummies. if you still want the food experience you can challenge yourself with something like minotaur or kobold, but most people play as mummies because they're a lot more fun and less tedious
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Sep 7, 2014 18:26
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fwiw it's not gone, but it matters less because there's no brown meat that causes sickness anymore, all meat that can be eaten is 'clean' meat don't play a mummy, even in jest
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Sep 7, 2014 18:29
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pathetic little tramp posted:yeah the food clock is gone, they made a really easy class that doesn't ever have to mess with it - mummies. if you still want the food experience you can challenge yourself with something like minotaur or kobold, but most people play as mummies because they're a lot more fun and less tedious
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Sep 7, 2014 19:59
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I miss the djinni whoopy was so bad with them trying to get one to cast fire storm that some fire mage ran into his ghost on two levels and complained he was intentionally killing him self to grief people.
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Sep 8, 2014 01:29
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Everyone, share your favorite cool/ridiculous mechanic in a roguelike game! Mine is probably the endless dungeon thing from ADOM. Basically it was an infinitely deep dungeon with floors randomly recreated every time you entered them that was marginally useful for grinding stuff. Also, one of the levels wasn't random, but instead a very hard labyrinth with a very difficult boss monster that dropped a thing that was necessary for a super awesome secret ending. The kicker is - the number of the floor this boss appeared at was equal to the times you killed a monster of the type you first killed with this character, so if you decided to go for this ending, the first thing you had to do with your character is to make sure the first thing you kill is not a loving rat. Or an orc. Or pretty much anything, since by the time you could reasonably attempt to kill that boss it was late-endgame and you've killed lots of everyone; also, it's not like there are many monster types you can kill at level 1. Basically, the easiest way to deal with this poo poo was to accept a quest in the first village (a little girl asks you to rescue a cute puppy from the tutorial dungeon), traverse said dungeon without killing anything, then slaughtering the drat puppy, which made you cursed or something but was totally worth it.
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Sep 9, 2014 15:23
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Nah a beggar/mugger is the pro choice, actually most of the Llewlyn monsters are good.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:48
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Yeah, I tried that once. Then I managed to kill a hundred or something muggers somewhere. Also, in Ragnarok you were able to grow extra fingers (and wear more rings on them) and eyes (and make your gaze attacks progressively kickass)!
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Sep 10, 2014 04:56
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blainestereo posted:Everyone, share your favorite cool/ridiculous mechanic in a roguelike game! ADOM is a goddamn treasure trove of weird rear end stuff like that. I like the dungeon where on the first level all the monsters arbitrarily spawn at 2x your level, so if you spend too much time there even the rats start punching through your armor for hundreds of damage.
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Sep 10, 2014 07:45
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ADOM is hot messy wet garbage
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adom rocks not like to play though
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Sep 14, 2014 08:00
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Cobweb Heart posted:adom rocks
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Sep 14, 2014 08:23
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adom is "win"
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Cobweb Heart posted:adom rocks
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Sep 14, 2014 14:59
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looking forward to Darkest Dungeon
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Sep 14, 2014 16:09
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Darkest Dungeon looks boss as hell
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Black August posted:Darkest Dungeon looks boss as hell "You will have to tend to characters’ spirits as much as you do their Hit Points." That sounds incredibly tedious and not fun, unless they just mean a glorified food timer, in which case, fine. But hopefully it can be handled in an interesting way. Also party combat combos seem cool.
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Sep 14, 2014 20:14
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Powercrazy posted:"You will have to tend to characters’ spirits as much as you do their Hit Points." its basically an alternate hp track but if you run out, you go nuts instead of dying
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Zarick posted:its basically an alternate hp track but if you run out, you go nuts instead of dying is 'go nuts' just a confuse spell? Or does it get more interesting than that? reminds me of http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Madness
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