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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Which he justifies as a mercy killing. He's the first reanimated man with Asperger's. "NO NO NO MAKE ME ONE WITH BOOBIES DADDY OR I'LL BURN THE HOUSE DOWN AND KILL THE CAT"
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:... that's not how Asperger's works, dude. Fine, garden variety petulance. Grecotch Unicycle posted:Wow, thank God I found this thread. Just started watching this a few days ago and was really surprised at how dark the whole show is without being ridiculous, and how interconnected everything is. Well put together show! Having read comments about My Gray, I think I agree with the idea he has magical "come to Butthead" powers which he uses on the normally quite frigid Ives to make her lust after him, as well as Ethan. What I find interesting though is when Ives looks over to where Gray was sitting before, noticing he's gone and just kind of going "meh" and turning her attention back to the show, suggesting to me this isn't just a passive thing, Dorian's power is very much activated on his end and it seems that he lost interest, as Dorian says to Ethan "She doesn't want to be someone else". I think Gray is another sort of vampire. I think he feeds off the energies of the living - the more 'vivacious' or aroused he makes them, the more he's able to 'eat.' Then again, there's the classical interpretation that the more depravity he gets up to, the more the portrait becomes disfigured until he snaps and stabs it, which kills him. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Hollismason posted:The vampire attack with them shooting etc... was pretty silly. Apparently the only attack vampires know with their superhuman strength is to jump on someones back. Also pretty sure I saw Sembene take a bite on the back of the neck. And that sex scene with Dorian makes me really look forward to Ava Lord vs. Dwight this August. 
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Jun 19, 2014 09:15
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Kazanir posted:It was a pendant of St. Jude, patron saint of the hopeless and of lost causes. His Latin incantation basically amounts to saying, "Saint Jude, blessed apostle, servant of Jesus, ________" (I can't make out the last few words well enough to translate.) And it was the same pendant of Brona's that she gave him after he resolved to stick around her despite her worsening disease.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:54
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Mouse Dresser posted:I hope the closing shot is Frankie starting the process with dead Brona on the slab and Caliban standing there all And then he rips her in half when he finds out the horrible put-on Irish accent survived the process. "I MUST BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HER, DEMON!"
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Jun 27, 2014 07:05
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Mouse Dresser posted:I hope the closing shot is Frankie starting the process with dead Brona on the slab and Caliban standing there all This was actually pretty close to how he actually looked.
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Jun 30, 2014 05:40
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Sober posted:I love the hilarious juxtaposition of Caliban being this horrendous, menacing monster to Frankenstein, and to everyone else he's like the mild-mannered shy dude with a disfigured face that gets poo poo on all the time (because it's his fault). I do have to admit, early on when the hot female lead made the horrible mistake of giving him a pity forehead kiss, I was like, "NO, CALIBAN, THAT WAS A FRIENDLY KISS, DON'T READ INTO IT," and then he had to go and goon himself out. The makeup he used even made him look like a Frankenstein Chris-Chan. I do think they missed a chance to add in a great line before Ethan changed. Instead of "no, not a monkey," use "you two really chose the wrong night to gently caress with me," then the blood splatter and the pan up to the full moon. I do think it adds a decent plotline - what if Ethan's whole family are werewolves (or given the hoity-toity nature of the show, maybe Loups-Garoux), and that's why his father wants him back? BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Jun 30, 2014 08:32
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w00tuberjedi posted:Maybe Jekyll and Hyde. Given the amount of poo poo Frankenstein carries around with him, he's basically two-in-one in this regard. "One pill makes you laaaaarger, and one pill makes you smaaaaaullll..."
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Jun 30, 2014 08:39
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Flesh Forge posted:IMO Dalton is tied with Connery for best Bond, he was awesome even if the films themselves weren't so great. It's a widely regarded "Bond Law" that every guy who gets to play him needs three movies for people to start liking him in the role. Dalton only got two. If he'd been allowed to play him in "Goldeneye," everyone would've forgotten about his first two mediocre films. Same goes with Craig's Bond. People weren't able to like a 'violent' moody Bond until he had the 'coming of age' in Skyfall. Now he gets to be cold yet witty like everyone likes.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:16
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Opinions were split originally on Casino Royale but they've fairweathered back into people liking it because of Skyfall.
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grilldos posted:Yes, Remington Steel. He literally got called on the *last day* before his contract would've expired, forcing him to do it and have Dalton take over. In hindsight, I'm not sure if Brosnan would've succeeded without Goldeneye being his first.
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I just caught up on this. I have to admit, I thought of that post as well when I realized she was speaking clearly.PostNouveau posted:Well I'm looking forward to Viktor having two pissed-off undead creations making his life hell. I think Frankenstein will kill *himself* long before that. The Creature all but told him 'no' when he asked if this made them even. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 09:42 on May 16, 2015 |
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May 16, 2015 09:34
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I know we're all supposed to dislike Mrs. Poole...but I just can't, she's the best villain this show's had yet.
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May 18, 2015 09:46
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qbert posted:I loved last season's Vanessa flashback ep. This one did not disappoint. Patti Lupone upstaged her, but yeah, the show's weaker whenever Eva's not on screen.
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Kegslayer posted:Why didn't the coven kidnap her once the other witch was dead? My guess is that they wanted her *before* she had been taught to defend herself against them, so they now have to play the long game. As to why they didn't hang/burn Vanessa, my guess is a combination of 1) she didn't have a history of being a witch in their lands, 2) I'm sure Lord McSecretSubbie and Mrs. Poole knew she was a noblewoman, and 3) it was demonstrated that Mrs. Poole had some rudimentary mental control over all of them in their inebriated and possibly 'potioned' state. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 11:32 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 11:24
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Kegslayer posted:Was this just from the scene at the bar? I don't think the people were under some kind of evil magic spell, Mrs Poole was just really good at preying on people's darker natures and the people were more than happy to hate on something different. She did *something* to the girl who'd had the abortion to make her scream out "Burn the Witch!" to rile up the crowd and push them into a murderous mood.
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May 19, 2015 22:01
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Solice Kirsk posted:I find everything with the exception of Dorian to be interesting. Really don't see how they are gonna tie him back into the main plot. Vanessa has a weakness for Dorian. My guess is that eventually their paths will cross again, one of the witches who's constantly monitoring her will observe it, Mrs. Poole will discover Dorian's 'secret,' and they'll use it against him in exchange for his wearing her down. She doesn't have faith in Mr. Lyle's worth save for him being a decent snitch.
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Pan Dulce posted:Seriously, what the gently caress is Dorian still doing there? Unless Angelique is a demon or a witch or hell, someone else with a magic portrait, I have no idea what Dorian still contributes. Also, looking forward to them using the hair to finish the voodoo puppet doll thing with the baby heart. Kinda hope either the flagrantly flamboyant historian cracks and tells Sir Malcolm his honey on the side is a witch or they all go on an epic quest to the cut wife's cabin and there, somehow, they realize the lady is a witch whilst getting the book. Dorian is Vanessa's kryptonite. He's the only individual she knows she can't resist, and when he seduces her, the Devil's able to find a foothold.
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May 28, 2015 01:05
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I think the most underrated part of the episode was when Lyle was praying in secret with the Torah, looking over his shoulder as he donned his tallit and yarmulke.radical meme posted:Now we have all these couplings that have major significance for the future of the characters and the show. And Mrs. Poole will soon have a way past all the new defensive measures. I do wonder if 'Two Face' is now a lycanthrope as well, since he was probably bitten by Ethan.
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Binary Logic posted:The owner is a great character and a right bastard. Pretty sure his 'grand plan' is to open a live freak show with Caliban as the main attraction - but not tell Caliban about it until opening night. Caliban will go beast mode when people start laughing at him and all the suspicion for the Mariner's Inn Massacre will fall on him since he'll straight up rip people apart.
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So it seems next week we're going to see the resurgence of Aspiestein.
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Fall posted:So I enjoyed the first season but the season 2 premiere was dull to the point where I couldn't finish. There was far too much emphasis on, "Look at how scared Vanessa is! The villains must be so scary!" and little in the way of proof. And too much of Caliban. Does it get better? Not that it's a spoiler, but Angelique evidently learns Dorian's 'secret' next week. Thus far the only one who has gotten close to that in this story is Bronastein, and as far as she knew, Dorian just didn't give a poo poo about potentially contracting TB. As for #3, there's plenty of interesting conversations thus far in S2. It's just sort of meandering into ~serious mode~ again, potentially for the worst. Also, Lily's quote in the teaser for next episode makes me think neither Caliban nor the Doctor is surviving past this season. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 11:25
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Fall posted:Sweet, thanks. I'll give it another shot. Wait until you get to "undergarments." You'll be kind of disappointed with what they're doing to Malcolm's character, though. I understand *why* they're doing it, but it just comes off as bad/clumsy writing.
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PerilPastry posted:Given the horrible, otherworldly horrors she's faced, Vanessa suddenly deciding to use the old, "break glass only in case of Armageddon" spell book simply because she ran into Lord Spankbutt and his dogs really fell flat for me. Pretty much thought the same thing. It was lazy writing, and honestly would have been better if she had decided to read the book out of curiosity having been given self-defense to think about by Ethan, found the spell, and we'd get to see how the book seduces her into using it like the old woman warned. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Well, Lily just got a lot more interesting.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Victor has every reason to arrange for Emostein's death now too. To be honest, Victor's arc is pretty weak at the moment and he could very easily 'go away' now and not affect the plot or quality of the show in the slightest.
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PostNouveau posted:No scene of her admitting it that I can recall, but I think they're probably saving that reveal for when she confronts Frankenstein. There was the part when Dorian was taking her through the waxworks that they came upon the recreation of the grave robbing because "a doctor wanted fresh cadavers for experimentation." It also seems like she's remembering more of her past. The only way I can see Frankenstein surviving to Season 3 is if Lily and Caliban become the new villains - it'd work because I can't really see Ethan easily killing what *was* Brona. You could also say that now that Caliban seems to be "heeled," in the space between this episode and the next, I could *totally* see him spilling the beans in their entirety, wanting so desperately to ~unburden~ himself to someone who 'understands.' Then again, I could totally see Lily kill Caliban and then demand Frankenstein make her a *pretty* companion instead...or she'll just try to do that with Dorian when she finds out he can't be killed by strangling. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:Isn't Caliban pieces of multiple people put together? She isn't, that's why she has retained her memories. I think there was some big foreshadowing with this with Proteus being just one body that was reanimated and how fast he started to figure out his former life. Lily/Brona has been around a lot longer than Proteus has at this point. Honestly Frankenstein would have probably realized "Wait, didn't Proteus start to remember some things pretty fast, hey, what about my new creation?" if he didn't have the stress of the witch situation, the translation, and Mr. Clare constantly being on his rear end. Victor really didn't have a tremendous amount of choice in the matter when it came to procuring and then reanimating Brona.
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Was anyone else telling Sembene to at *least* go up to the landing instead of standing *right* in Ethan's sightline? I mean, even money that Ethan goes through the barrier or goes up the stairs...but it's better odds than WAITING RIGHT loving THERE.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Pretty sure his 'grand plan' is to open a live freak show with Caliban as the main attraction - but not tell Caliban about it until opening night. Caliban will go beast mode when people start laughing at him and all the suspicion for the Mariner's Inn Massacre will fall on him since he'll straight up rip people apart. Well, I was half right (so far). My guess is the Putney clan has woefully underestimated Caliban's ability to wrench the iron door off its hinges, though. I kind of don't want to imagine what he'll do to the daughter...the wife never approved of him, and the husband always treated him like a flunky...but the daughter *played* him. It might end up backfiring against Lily, too. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Sober posted:I was always puzzled why everyone complained about Dorian or Caliban when Sembene was the actual character they didn't seem to have any material for. "Deez mahks meen I was slave tradah." "gently caress sake, man...now that you've got some character development you just KNOW you're gonna die. The mystery was what was keeping you alive."
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Binary Logic posted:Ethan's going to be so surprised when he realizes Sembene is a vampire. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Sembene took a bite on the back of the neck in the first season.
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Kegslayer posted:I hope Poole makes it out alive in addition to Sembene. I still don't understand how a show based on a genre of cheap but popular books can make such good tv. Yeah, I kind of hope that this show doesn't fall prey to Modern Bond Movie Rules where the compelling villain always has to die at the end of the movie they're headlining.
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I'm kind of happy that what I was hoping wouldn't happen *didn't* happen. I was getting the feeling that the Inspector was a werewolf or something akin to it as well when he was sort of chewing on his lines in his office. There's no chance of Ethan turning again on the boat, though - it was supposed to take the Titanic ~7 days to make the Atlantic crossing, and I think we're about 20 years prior to that now. So even if you make it 21 days, that's not enough to make it to the next full moon, and even if it did, they'd be nearly finished with the trip. Of course, my money is on the fact that Hecate is on that ship. Also, here's hoping Lily can make Dorian a more interesting character in Season 3.
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Tokubetsu posted:I definitely think we're gonna get a handful of American scenes next season. Probably young witch tracks Ethan down or something to that effect. My guess is she shows up and one hand detective gets dragged into this supernatural world. I figured they woulda maybe do it in this finale but I feel confident it'll happen in s3. Especially with a supporting character like Sembene dead now. I'm actually kind of anxious to see Ethan's father. I'm wondering if they'll delve deeper into who/what he is - perhaps his entire family is Loups-Garoux or something, and that's what Ethan was running from (though it seemed he wasn't ever sure what he was until Sembene witnessed his change). And it's almost *definite* that Hecate will track Ethan down, as she already believes she's seduced him to her cause/side. He's her 'in' with ~the Master~. Lily's gonna be pissed when she sees her skin lose its color due to complete exsanguination, though. All Dorian has to do is take another gander at the painting and he's back to 100%. It's also a bit funny that Lily retained a 'human' color while Proteus and Caliban didn't. Supposedly they're all 'cold to the touch,' so it's a bit of poetic license that Lily stayed so beautiful for so long. Frankenstein might be an evil genius, but I doubt his process stops blood from clotting without body heat and a heart beat to keep it fluid.
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ShakeZula posted:Poison. Dorian was immune because he stared at the painting right after (or I guess because he's just generally unkillable) I'm guessing his wasn't poisoned. The painting not only gets more grotesque with every injury it heals, but with every life Dorian takes (if we're going by the book, too). That's probably why he was slightly taken aback when the portrait snapped to his eyes and *glared* at him after Angelique died.
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Sardikar posted:Is it just me in the the last episode did Vanessa use the puppet to reach down into the depths of hell and break Lucifer's neck? I don't think she 'killed' Lucifer, I think she just broke his connection to the living world by proving she was more powerful than he was (at least on our plane of existence). They were chanting the same thing, so when ~The Master~ stopped chanting and started moaning, it was proof that he'd lost the 'duel.' BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jul 12, 2015 |
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Irish Joe posted:In teaming up with Lily? Dorian's portrait seems to suggest that he's been up to evil poo poo for awhile. It seems to me that Lily's megalomania merely emboldened Dorian's natural instincts, rather than caused any real change in his behavior or outlook. And that he's finally found someone whom he can share his secret and eternity with. The dancing scene seems to reveal that Dorian's always seen mortal humans as little more than disposable playthings to make his immortality occasionally more bearable.
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Halloween Jack posted:There are no penguins in the Arctic. He'll have to settle for a duplicitous romance with a blind polar bear. Then kill it when he sees it cavorting with another polar bear. "IS THERE NO SPECIES ON THIS PLANET CAPABLE OF MONOGAMY!?!?!" There are also seals, by the way.
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I really hope they aren't biting off more than they can chew this season. I mean, there are like seven separate loving arcs: 1. Victor's. 2. The Creature's. 3. Dr. Jekyll's. 4. Lily & Dorian's 5. Vanessa & The Master's. 6. Ethan & Hecate's. 7. Malcolm & Kaetenay's. And yeah, Showtime did *not* do a great job of publicizing this. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:24 on May 2, 2016 |
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