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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Len posted:

Resident Evil 4 is a giant escort mission but it's pretty solid.

Because you can mostly shove the escortee into a bin while you deal with bad guys. The times when you can't are frequently irritating (gently caress you, water room).

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Triarii posted:

That's a problem? I like getting to know players by the characters/roles they play, whether it's my friends I'm playing with or serious matches I'm watching.

It's kind of a problem when some players insist on sticking to one character/role regardless of how appropriate it is to the map, the objective and the composition of the rest of their team. Like, I like playing Tracer, but if there's already a Tracer on my team or a Tracer just won't gel with the plan the rest of the team are attempting, or we don't have a healer or something, then I don't play as Tracer. In Overwatch it's almost always people picking sniper classes when they're bad at it or one isn't needed.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Higsian posted:

Maybe support having to tell people how to play differently actually reveals an inherent problem in the way the game wants to be played vs how people want to play it.

Eh, maybe, but only in that it's different to what people are expecting and it should be clearer in game.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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A White Guy posted:

Badly written characters?I dunno, you're trying to put that dude from Watch Dogs in the same category as that dude from critically acclaimed, commercial succes Ride to Hell:Retribution.

also, battlefield man, who's not an actual character.

What, Ian Battlefield? I'm pretty sure that's his name.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Hel posted:


But yeah, brutes/Heavies suck in pretty much every game that has them, they never really require anything special, they just limit you to the most boring option: dumping tons of bullets&bombs into them.

That's not true! Some of them you have to shoot in the back.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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muscles like this? posted:

I've been playing the rerelease of RE4 and its kind of annoying how the game has the guy who will sell you anything, except ammo. Obviously it wouldn't be the ideal way to do it but it would be nice for those times when you're completely out or want specific ammo.

When you upgrade your ammo capacity he gives you a full magazine, but yeah it's an annoyance.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Olaf The Stout posted:

Some parts of 3 were good. Vaz the villain was pretty great and unsettling. A lot of the story is definitely not presented well, but Jason Brody has an actual arc. It didn't work so much in cutscenes, but in play as a FPS, your character is extremely physical and tangible within the world which is grounding. From there, watching him go from a kid way over is head to a bloodthirsty god of war as depicted by the increase in your power from unlockables attacks and arms and armaments, and especially through his increasingly unhinged voice acting through game.

Pity that most of the cutscenes are pretty crap though.

The one where Vaz kicks you down a well is a pretty good one. I was just bad at the game so I had to watch it about four times before I successfully cleared that part.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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I thought love WAS a battlefield. Or am I mixing up videogames and the works of Pat Benatar?

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Inspector Gesicht posted:

What are the worst excuses for having a final boss in the game?

Final Fantasy 9.

"Yeah, we thought we'd build this guy up as the antagonist but after you fight him here's another thing that we've not really mentioned before but that was the true villain all along. "

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Alpha Protocol was pretty great with morality choices, because you got rewards for everything, just different ones.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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FactsAreUseless posted:

Did you know that Batman's only skill whatsoever is that he owns a car? Well, I do now!

Batman's actual superpowers are enormous wealth and sociopathy.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Action Tortoise posted:

No Kills wouldn't have been so bad if the game didn't bottleneck some levels with combat. There's one in a parking garage and one in the server room at the end. I think they wanted to up the stakes to show how dangerous the cops have become now that you're Public Enemy no. 1 but if I have to get past a bunch of armed dudes don't make it so I HAVE to beat them up to get past the door since I have to stay in place to turn the valve door open to progress.

My favourite thing about Mirror's Edge is how they took away the guns in Catalyst but I killed WAY more people by accidentally knocking them off rooftops than I ever did with guns in the first game.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Tunicate posted:

Riddle me this, Batman. I am going to "shoot" the "mayor" with a "gun".

Batman: Shoot... He's talking about firing something...

Robin: Or shooting his load!

B: Of course, Robin, ejaculate! Now, guns.. Muscles.. Superman has muscles...

Robin: Superman is going to jizz on the mayor!

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

Currently playing Alan Wake - and I'm up to Episode 4.

After 3 episodes of running through spooky woods fighting the same three enemies, I thought I was in for a break when Ep 4 started me off in a spooky garden. Now it's tossed me back into spooky woods.

Are there much more spooky woods to come or does the game eventually mix things up a bit? Feels like I'm doing the same thing over and over again.

There are some slightly different environments but they're all pretty wood based. American Nightmare has more variety of locations... as long as you like deserts.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Avshalom posted:

just squeeze those babies clean out of my a. plop! plop! streamlined and hyper fashionable

If anything this sounds like a feature you want adding to games rather than one that annoys you.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Slime posted:

Yes you can. Personally I found their inclusion in later games to be really dumb, but you apparently liked them and thought they were good representations of the species so

This argument has been had before. It goes on several pages and no one wins.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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John Murdoch posted:

Do you own a half-decent PC? Buy the PS2 versions and run them via an emulator. I don't specifically know how well they play and/or how much fiddling they might require to get working nicely, but it's worth looking into.

Are they on Playstation Now? Because as long as you've got a not terrible internet connection that's also a viable option.

Edit: Ignore me, they're not on PS Now, I'm an idiot.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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What kind of goons make fun of hot dogs?

Fat goons, skinny goons, goons that climb on rocks?

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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RareAcumen posted:

This is just a blanket complaint but is there some kind of blood pact on video games that says your character has to have an alcohol tolerance of a blue jay? Seems like every game besides LISA that lets you drink makes your vision sway around like you've shakycam going after one drink. And if you go for more than one then you're totally hosed and everything's just a blurred after-imaged mess that you can't keep track of poo poo with.

I guess the boring answer is that alcohol in a lot of games functions as some sort of health boost or buff and comes with the wobbly screen consequence to give you some sort of risk/reward to evaluate. The only place I've really found alcohol to be fun in a game is in GTA, and only then because it fucks with your controls as well turning driving a car into a guaranteed series of increasingly worse crashes.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Inspector Gesicht posted:

You'd have to be drunk at all times to enjoy Watch Dogs 1.

"Press X to jump over niece's grave."

Press x to assault stranger using baton

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Olaf The Stout posted:

Asulum is a metroid and cities is a zelda. I prefer cities, and the series definitely falls off from there.

Origins is Cities but with the wrong voices.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Triarii posted:

A bunch of games seem to make this mistake. You have normal vision mode and "can actually see poo poo" mode, and the latter comes with some "drawback" that mostly just annoys you, like making the game look ugly and desaturated or playing annoying sound effects while it's on.

Mechwarrior Online did this. You have three vision modes, normal, thermal and light amplification. The original thermal vision mode was pretty just the default Crysis thermal mode, and was better than either normal or light amplification in the vast majority of situations. So they changed it from a colourscale view to a monochrome one and cut the effective range down to a fraction of what it was and now it barely has any use at all.

Also I guess the Batman Arkham games are the ur-example of this. most of the time you might as well be in detective vision mode as it's way more useful, but it does make the game look worse.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Hel posted:

Assassin's Creed did it first and had some limitations that made it impossible to use it constantly. You could only use the original Eagle Vision when standing still and at full health(it might have been first person as well, so no peeking around corners), so it was only really useful when planning your approach and not as the de facto default vision mode.

Yeah, I meant that Batman is the first one where you could pretty much use it all the time with no gameplay mechanic issues.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Guy Mann posted:

They hide loading.

Remember when Max Payne 3 had cutscenes that hid loading only it turned out 90% of them didn't and Rockstar were just dicks?

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:


Mass effect 2 playthrough : none of your decisions from the first game loving mattered anyway lol


I think the only one that I can really remember (I'm sure there's a few) is the Ashley/Kaiden choice. But as no one chose to save Kaiden at all ever, it's not like it mattered.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Somfin posted:

Jack from ME2 was bullshit because Femshep players never got an actual resolution to her character arc, because the resolution to her character arc was locked behind fuckin' and because EA are a bunch of whiny babies they didn't let Shepard and Jack get their gently caress on if it was gonna actually mean anything. Fine with a no-character-arc-for-you-then-lol girl-on-girl quickie, not okay with actual lesbianism.

I thought I got the resolution to her arc without loving, even as manshep. I thought it just involved doing her loyalty mission right.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Gitro posted:

Wolfenstein: The New Order is an avant-garde ARG about trying to get a videogame called Wolfenstein: The New Order to actually loving work. Fun activities include updating your GPU drivers, finding out which menu options cause the game to crash, many hours of googling in vain hope of finding a solution and a fun console command minigame.

Man, that game really doesn't like you. I'm assuming you've not got some weird setup because you've posted about loads of other games without mention of poo poo like this, so I'm guessing it's just some really specific combination of components and software that TNO hates.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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BioEnchanted posted:

A missed opportunity in a lot of post-apocalypse games that would be somewhat funny, would be to have the strongest armour in the game be called the Armour of the Ancients. When you finally get it and equip it - it's our armour. We're the ancients. It's a pair of Cargo trousers, a t-shirt, a kevlar vest and a warm jumper. :3:

Or it's a suit of plate mail from a museum and you can't see poo poo now, and it's super heavy and also not especially useful.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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U.T. Raptor posted:

People get weird and pissy about characters being flagged essential in Bethesda games for some reason, but this is basically why it needs to be done.

I liked that in New Vegas you could murder anyone and still get through the game. I didn't like it so much in the Honest Hearts expansion when the first guy you meet could die just before you talked to him and then all the quests for the expansion popped as completed/ended. That was pretty dumb.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Action Tortoise posted:

i can buy the carjacking and gunfights because the world is meant to be slightly more heightened and barbaric in GTA than our world. it's why the ingame ads are double entendres and why the radio personalities come off more unhinged than usual; like if that setting from "The Lady and the Tiger" was modernized. Or like how Uncharted is meant to be a modern pulp adventure so the hero has to mow down small armies just to cross a forest.

my problem with Rockstar's writing is that they force their characters into these contrived situations to become criminals. the only reason the guys in V get together is because Michael loses his temper and causes a ridiculous amount of property damage and has to resort to his old ways to get the money. Niko in IV i think had a similar situation where crime found him in America even though he complains over and over again that he wants to start fresh.

i liked John Marston's motivation in RDR because he's a reformed criminal who's forced by the government to hunt down his old gang because the government has his family. it's a simple enough backstory that gradually gets revealed as the story progresses. and not once does Marston ever consider going back into crime; he has his priorities straight and every thing he does all goes back into saving his family.

Yeah, Michael's tantrum is incredibly contrived. I mean, it's funny, but I'd more easily buy him going in there and shooting people than I do him demolishing the building.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Lunchmeat Larry posted:

my favourite example of this is still San Andreas making the driving force behind the entire plot that CJ is being blackmailed over the death of one cop. I honestly thought it was a joke at first

San Andreas is just the dumbest poo poo because you're a loving millionaire by the end of the game and could buy and sell Tenpenny a thousand times over.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Slime posted:

more line ten million times if you're a millionaire and he's ten pennies

Oh poo poo, the secret of GTA:SA is you had to offer him a dime.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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moosecow333 posted:

I really don't like it when open world games replay the last major conversation each time the game starts up. Both Assassin's Creed: Black Flag and Just Cause 3, to name a few, do this and it sucks to hear the same poo poo joke 10 times because I decided to not progress the story for a few sessions.

Until Dawn does a two minute long "Previously on..." segment whenever you load up your game in progress. Which is fine if it's been a few days inbetween but really loving sucks otherwise.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Yeah, Until Dawn pretty much has episodes as well, but it doesn't really announce the end of them directly, you just get a scene with Peter Stormare and then the title screen flashes up and you get the "previously on". I don't have a problem with it existing, just gently caress, let me skip it if I've already seen it today.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Alhazred posted:

Max Payne

gently caress you for reminding me of that stupid maze with a crying baby soundtrack.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Nuebot posted:

Just leave the planet? gently caress it, man. Let that animal go undiscovered for the rest of eternity. Maybe it should have put the work in and sent some scripts out to agents instead of hiding in its nocturnal cave forever.

Seriously though, I didn't even know it told you how many animals were on a planet.


Best you get is a lovely scanner. You hit C and it lights up any ~rare~ materials in a certain radius of you. Except it sucks because why do I want platinum, game? Nothing needs platinum and it's worthless. I need carbon but I'm stuck on iron nipple planet, everything is covered in these weird iron nipples. Where is all the carbon?

It's annoying in general but carbon is usually easy to find as plants and animals tend to be full of the stuff. Just blast a few flowers and you'll get some.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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World Famous W posted:

Almost every game with a shotgun acts as if bird/buck shot is the only ammo to exist. Where are my slugs?

Payday 2 added slugs a while back, turning some of the shotguns into capable counter sniping weapons. They also added explosive rounds and dragons breath ones. I've not played in a while so no clue how viable any of them are these days.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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FactsAreUseless posted:

If you sneak in Far Cry you are a coward and a fool.

Does getting a tiger to eat everyone in the outpost count a stealth?

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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Nuebot posted:

Destiny 2's PC beta was really fun. Now I have to wait until the end of october for the game to come out. :negative: It's annoying to have to wait so long for something cool. I want it that instant gratification now.

No, you can play that one strike for the next couple of days, over and over again! THEN wait until the end of october.

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

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tight aspirations posted:

Didn't nuWolf have one of these as well, or am I mis-remembering?

The torque weapon is the same shape but significantly bigger I think.

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