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ahahahaha, now you are using anecdotal data to discount statistical data. hahahahaha.
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Caros posted:
But they probably sold less Caros. Have you even considered the poor downtrodden businessman?
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Caros posted:Over the health and safety of children? No. I know, that was a point ASDF was making. At least I think he was, or that bit didn't seem to have any actual point to it.
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Feb 8, 2015 19:31
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Why not?
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I think lawn darts is literally the best case for regulations out there. Its so black and white and simple. If you want an example, that is what you shoot for.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:You communicate very poorly Asdf Only if you assume he is trying to tell you something. If you assume he is trying to be vague so he doesn't have to worry about contradicting himself, he is doing very well. He is learning a lot from Jrod's mistakes.
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Feb 21, 2015 21:33
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How does minimum wage negatively effect Black people more? Like I can't think of any reasons beyond racist ones, which Jrod seems to be of the opinion doesn't exist. Wait he now admits it exists, but only in the ability for it to shore up his argument. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 00:30
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The problem with that is I don't think we have the ability to hivemind long enough for that.
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Mar 30, 2015 00:59
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I think the contention is that no matter the fact that they were using racist reasoning, the fact that black youths were being exploited by being paid Pennies to the dollar isn't exactly a good counter or a refutation of the min wage. Also how would you address the issues of the black community? Your free market approaches are generally hands off so I don't see how you can honestly believe what you do will have any effect on them. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Apr 1, 2015 04:26
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I feel like not enough attention is being payed to the fact that racism all of a sudden resurfaces when it benefits Jrod's argument.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:55
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ASDF is back arguing that corporations have no leverage over low skill workers? This will be interesting till Jrod comes back.
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Apr 1, 2015 22:12
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Series DD Funding posted:It's not spent, but it is invested. Even if that's just a bank account, that money gets lent out and creates production. Only to a certain extent. Lending tha money so someone can buy a house isn't actually that much a production increase, as an example.
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Apr 2, 2015 02:43
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asdf32 posted:You missed my edit: Unless I miss something, your edit doesn't reall address his point, you just hand waved it away.
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Apr 2, 2015 03:50
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To be fair, he doesnt' really follow along. He more copy pastes applicable arguments that sometimes match up. At least ASDF's brand crazy is 100% original. Though they both share the opinion that saying they are right counts as a rebuttal, so there is that.
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Apr 3, 2015 03:45
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asdf32 posted:To be clear increasing inequality is a trend across the west. So that's a great clue for its global structural nature. Policy has an impact, we can see different countries being affected in different ways. But first it's important to grasp the underlying problem. Oh no we failed a test you made up that has no bearing on how things work. Oh no. Also the guy who said "demand is basically infinite" calling others economic illiterate, lol.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:20
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Nintendo Kid posted:Apple's "workers" are primarily high paid tech guys in the states and extremely low paid Chinese factory workers. There would be minimal benefit in the US from higher salaries to the already quite well off general workers, and the workers in China are under contract to another company and as such Apple would never pay them more directly. I don't think the point is to drain the cash reserves just to drain them.
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Apr 3, 2015 19:18
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The demand is there.
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Apr 6, 2015 23:32
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ASDF isn't a libertarian. He is contrarion. He isn't Jrod, he is a shittier version of Fishmech.
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Apr 9, 2015 15:05
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You first have to prove the demand exceeds supply. Hiring several more low skill jobs overseas does not prove that the demand for labor is exceeding supply. Only that it is was not being met at the time. Basically defend your original premise that if everyone was free you would hire everyone.
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Apr 9, 2015 20:48
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asdf32 posted:One indicator: the total number of jobs outsourced exceeds current unemployment. Imagine if we extrapolated to "free". There would be diminishing returns at some point, so even if they didn't cost any salary productivity would plummet. Though once again, you would have to prove that the jobs they are hired for, are jobs which are unnecessary but price makes them willing to front it.
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Literally no one (besides you I guess) is using a fixed number so what the gently caress are you on about ASDF? Unless you are finally admiting you were wrong, then good on ya.
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Apr 9, 2015 22:31
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asdf32 posted:Not wrong, not as stupid as when people are saying "businesses don't want to hire more workers" and not pointless when they are. No one has said this, they said no one will hire unnecessary workers which seems to be your point, that if the cost is zero you will hire people just to mill about.
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paragon1 posted:I thought you said demand was functionally infinite? Only if cost is zero. loving Statists with their minimum wage laws 
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Apr 10, 2015 02:21
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asdf32 posted:So is paying people what they're worth bad? How do you determine their worth, postingbot 9000?
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Apr 15, 2015 22:22
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asdf32 posted:Google tried pretty hard to figure it out and then tried to pay people accordingly and that got presented as bad. Well they don't actually give you any details on how they give out the bonuses, so I wonder how exactly you came to the conclusion that this is fair. Is it fair because they say it is? I mean the whole article is vague and kind of trying to push a certain narrative.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:52
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What? No it doesn't? Unless you have a really, really high opinion of gilded age America. Or a loose definition of well off.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:14
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You know you can't play that card when your posts are also ideologically charged right? Because its impossible to do it from some mythical neutral ground.
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Apr 21, 2015 17:51
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VitalSigns posted:This should be interesting. His whole schtick is just posting vague useless truisms and then acting as if they proved the worth of the highly specific policy positions he is simultaneously advocating and nothing more needs to be said nor conflicting evidence addressed. lol you expect a simple question will be enough to force him to be specific.
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asdf32 wasn't libertarian. I am not exactly sure what he was but it wasn't libertarian.
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Jun 4, 2015 01:55
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Do I you honestly believe that the majority of the poor were recently immigrated and couldn't speak English? Really?
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Aug 12, 2015 03:24
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Now you are just throwing out random logical fallacies. Like its a Facebook argument.
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Sep 14, 2015 03:37
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Muscle Tracer posted:fishmech is more correct (and posts some a+ content when you don't disagree with him) whereas asdf would be in the ultrabland megaboring zone of "not even wrong" if he was even a little consistent Yeah fish mechs problem is he is pedantic as all gently caress, but at least he is correct more often than not.
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That seems arbitrary.
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Okay if I gotta make a decision from all of history I'd say that I'd kill Joseph McCarthy I feel like someone would have filled his shoes eventually.
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Aug 29, 2016 20:45
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The best racism was Saint Jrods brief fling with time preferences.
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Sep 1, 2016 06:01
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The weird thing is he knows you can get one later in life and seems willing to do it, making it weirdly pointless.
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The problem being a Market economy doesn't use that info very well, though that is by design.
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Systems fail all the time because change is hard and there are always variables. Trying to simplify it down to one singular reason without concrete examples is pointless. It's just lazy.
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Like tell me why central planning failed, give me solid reasoning why it was at fault.
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To a degree.
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