Warhammer 40k: It's the end of the game as we know it (and I feel fine)

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Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

*in extremely accurate and unsettlingly precise trazyn voice* IT BEGINS

# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 00:57

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:42

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Galaspar posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/18/rumour-engine-january-18th-2017/

Do I dare to dream that awesome new Chaos Marine models are coming? Or Necromunda gangers? Either way, I'm loving this little thing.

If that's Cypher, it wouldn't be a big surprise. The guy has been tied up with 40k's 'end of days' for years.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 05:29

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

panascope posted:

Confirmed: Biel-Tan eaten by scrunts.

lmao there's no way they're end timing 40k you guys

# ¿ Jan 26, 2017 03:15

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Well, that Cypher model is pretty underwhelming.

Bring on Age of Emperor.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 13:28

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Uroboros posted:

Dark Angels having been under the influence of xenos for 10k years,

I used to play the ol' Dangles. Is this true?

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 16:17

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

WhiteOutMouse posted:

I know there is a lot of hate and controversy around the new Girlyman model, but I think a lot of people are missing that this is designed with the new narrative in mind.

People compare these two models in a vacuum because they see them both as Guilliman but there are real differences that need to be seen. (Besides resin/plastic, painter skill, lighting/angle).

The 30k primarch is his form that we all remember him as. He is the embodiment of the "codex Astartes". He is wearing his normal armor which was built for him thousands of years ago.

The 40k primarch is very different because the fluff is very different. Not only was he hosed up and in stasis for a long time, but his demeanor and equipment is different. He is trying to cope with the entire imperium looking like a funhouse mirror of itself when he first went in. Guilliman is like fry coming out of the tube and being introduced to the probulator and the suicide booths right now.
Designwise this new primarch has his gear made from Belisarius Cawl. This is a big deal as far as the model design and how we should expect to see him.

Instead of comparing the 30k with the 40k version try and compare the primarch with a Mechanicum design.

A lot of the smaller design elements are taken from Mechanicum design, which makes sense because of, well, who designed it.

Can you be mad that the modern Mechanicum and Cawl are designing his armor and life support system? Sure, maybe the story could have gone a different way to let him use his older armor because it was saved by loving ultras for years or something... But this is the story now and this is why it looks this way.

I think most 40k people agree they enjoy the universe the most out of the entire hobby. It can be hard to get used to new story shaking things up for people. Most entry-level to mid tier 40k nerds don't have the deep knowledge of every book and the story, so we get bullet points and summaries from our buddies who got us into the game. This shaped our view of the game and what makes it cool to us.

So while his armor looks jarring to see now it makes sense in the fluff, if that makes sense. Eventually as the story gets older and more ingrained into the lore of the hobby (if it all does not implode), people would expect Guilliman to look this way.

Imagine if they updated the Lucius the eternal model but made him look like he was in 30k

People would be upset because that would not match the current fluff of the model. He is supposed to look all crazy with cuts all over his face and he should have a weird whip thing etc...
That fluff is well in our heads so it seems obvious, but this new story is, new. So it might take some getting used to. Having our world change is fast dramatic ways is quite he jarring thing.

Ok, I'm done effort posting. I know I am an overly positive guy and I love the idea of moving the story ahead, and others don't. But hopefully if you see that aspect of the design it would be less of a problem for you.

source your dang quotes

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 07:10

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Kind of like how the art has shifted from cool inspired-by stuff to only things you can find as actual models.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 11:56

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

how... strange... that the end times for whfb was also made up of five book releases

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 23:30

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Yeast posted:

There's more likely to be �15 books though.

i approve of them figuring how to make 3x the money from 40k end times

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 23:32

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Hamshot posted:

I would be awfully tempted to photochop it and then post it every single time but that'd effectively double the amount of 40k endtimes being mentioned.

With what xtothez said and now that posts from this thread (woms) are being cherrypicked and taken into the cuddly deaththread it seems those posters are going strong for double-or-nothing on 40k getting the end times treatment.

The usual suspects can no longer rely on any of the old bad GW tropes like lack of specialist games support, holding the playerbase at arms length with 0 communication or self-awareness, lack of FAQs or rule clarifications etc. Prices are still poo poo but everybody agrees with that and that alone is no longer enough to sustain the death thread without it just echoing what's been discussed here or derailing into gundam or anime discussion again. The 40k end times hill is the hill they'll die on or emerge vindicated, and until then they will post that poo poo into the ground.

lol

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 03:38

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Ghost Hand posted:

I KNOW this is not the "End Times" (I suppose based on how you want to define it) because I have had conversations with some of my contacts who have said so.

Read the July blog. Two weeks.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 04:19

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

FlamingFig88 posted:

For the love of the great crusade, I must know. Where are those helmets from? what kit?

thanks

plastic chaos warriors with the horns removed, it looks like

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 02:00

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

unpurposed posted:

So here's a detailed summary of the fluff from Rise of the Primarch.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/720192.page#9242346

That last paragraph, wow.

huh

wonder what it means

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 23:51

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

So I'm skeptical, but this is apparently a leaked pic of an Ubermarine.

I'd say this is plausible, just because I don't recognize any of the bits.

I'm actually unable to place any part of that. The head looks maybe like one of those Cadian heads without the helmet (but I don't think so). But the weapons, the legs, the left arm, the chestplate, the backpack vents...

# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 13:34

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

The big white space needs something to break it up, like maybe the gridwork the old IA articles had.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 12:49

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Technowolf posted:

Some rumors on the new marines:

They may be kitbashes with Sigmar stuff.

A new Mk X kit is coming, but i'ts more of a facelift than anything else.

these rumors sound fake lmao

# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 05:50

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

open/narrative/matched is literally AoS speak, right?

# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 04:52

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

goose willis posted:

So I'm looking up terminators on eBay and I come across this:

Unless GW made blue bits or unless the seller primed it blue (why?) that's a recast isn't it

I don't think so. I'm pretty Terminators around the start of 3E were blue plastic?

# ¿ Apr 4, 2017 03:20

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Safety Factor posted:

Don't worry, the Dark Angels will step up to the plate and fulfill their usual role as a beta test for the Space Marines book.

This is actually one of the reasons I stopped playing Dark Angels after like a full decade.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 02:34

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Munchables posted:

https://twitter.com/AGhostlerer/status/851527724103589893

EMPEROR: You shouldn't have any secrets from me, I'm your future Emperor.

HORUS: You sure about that? Maybe I'll change my mind.

EMPEROR: Don't talk like that. Whadda mean?

HORUS: What do you think? Primarchs change their mind all the time.

EMPEROR: Ha ha! You must be kidding, aren't you?

# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 07:33

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

the rumor wasn't that "all marines are now new marines" there was a big part of it that was guillman had created marines 2.0 and distributed them to the chapters

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 02:24

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Phyresis posted:

The dude he's painting is the exact same model too.

What's with Overwatch avatar-havers not having working eyes?

The dude he's painting isn't wearing a helmet, for starters. The bolter is angled differently and held lower and the legs are wider apart and his chest is facing forwards, not to the side.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 13:28

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

What will the next hot take on the new Space Marine models be?

Have people exhausted 'it's just a conversion' yet? Let's found out, shall we...

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 13:31

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

"June 10th launch, they�re going to drip feed us rumors for the rest of May. Expect to see full Space Marine datasheets sometime around the end of next week, with a couple of fluff pieces talking about how the galaxy got ripped in half and how all the marines got taller."

but i'm sure the models are all clever hoaxes, you guys lmao

# ¿ Apr 29, 2017 03:43

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Cooked Auto posted:

I was about to post that. Here's a YT link as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wXCBDiLEA&feature=youtu.be

Let the smugposting commence.

i don't get it why did they make a video about someone's conversion???

# ¿ May 1, 2017 01:08

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Strobe posted:

Considering there's already an outright falsehood in that post full of ~rumors~, maybe being smug about it is a bit premature?

# ¿ May 1, 2017 01:10

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Reading up on the Marines Malevolent... These guys are my new favorite marines, Holy Emperor.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 09:07

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

getting really tired of JBP saying that the bigly marines are real and not just a conversion

# ¿ May 4, 2017 07:07

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

warhammer might be the only hobby where you need to laugh and jeer at your fellow gamers

it's weird as heck now that i've stopped playing

"Haha this guy is the bad kind of guy who paints plastic spacemen. this is the opposite of me, the good spaceman guy."

# ¿ May 6, 2017 10:52

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

So, let me get this straight... GW bought someone's conversion and has made a new line of Space Marines out of it? That's crazy.

# ¿ May 18, 2017 00:15

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Yeast posted:

He does a drive by thread poo poo each week, desperate for attention.

# ¿ May 18, 2017 00:35

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

JBP posted:

"Goes to death thread*

Hey guys how about that gw marketing someone's conversions hey!?

They may be kitbashes with Sigmar stuff.

A new Mk X kit is coming, but i'ts more of a facelift than anything else.

# ¿ May 18, 2017 01:10

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Lord Twisted posted:

Master Twig posted:

The big issue with battle cannons is that it's D6 shots, not D6 hits. They say it's a great tank killer now, but with only 1d3 damage, they're still only likely to do 2 or 4 wounds on a vehicle. Not really that impressive. A Leman Russ firing against a T8 knight with a 5+ invuln you're looking at 1.17 hull points on average. That's pathetic.

Again, I'd rather wait to see the bigger picture then start Mathammer raging about how they clearly 'suck against infantry' when we've only seen snapshot rules

there are people in this thread already playing '8th edition games' based on what's been shown so far soooo

# ¿ May 22, 2017 11:53

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

JBP posted:

Please remain calm, we are not replacing space marines with primaris model space marines.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/warhammer-40000-launch-date-announced-may22gw-homepage-post-1/

Launch info and poo poo in the link.

# ¿ May 23, 2017 08:37

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

# ¿ May 31, 2017 13:13

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Age of Covfefe XD

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 03:16

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:42

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

JBP posted:

These new marines are loving enormous.

they're actually no different to the marines they've had since 3E

well, hope this helps

# ¿ Jun 17, 2017 08:45

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