Just finished season 2. Aside from the first episode, I thought this was a much stronger season than the first one. Though I really, really think they need to cut Jason Biggs. I was pretty much done with his entire story line last season when he broke up with Piper. I find him completely uninteresting and doesn't really contribute much to the overall theme.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 03:33 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 02:12 |
Bown posted:I agree about the morphing, actually. It was a little too on-the-nose. It was on-the-nose, but I felt like the moment was earned. I really liked Rosa's story throughout the season.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 17:59 |
Skeleton King posted:it hosed it for me Eh, to each their own. Blue Oyster Cult over the image of Vee's dead body was pretty hilarious though. Max fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 18:53 |
cname posted:The fact that Healey turnes into an MRA at the end of the season. Turns into? Dude was always there.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 21:34 |
Combed Thunderclap posted:At least the hilariously cheesy moments are usually balanced out by hilariously violent ones in short order (the Piper-on-Pennsatucky beatdown, the Vee hit-and-run), which are typically enough to make me cough down any vomit rising in my throat. When it comes down to it, good acting can save quite a lot of shlock.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2014 20:48 |
The surprising thing about Daya and Bennet is how Fig of all people is the one to point out that a relationship between a guard and inmate is automatically non-consensual, and yet their sex scenes are played as no big deal most of the time. Like, did anyone ever doubt Bennet would be automatically forgiven the moment he walked through that door to talk with Caputo?
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2014 07:12 |
Krad posted:Great characters, great season, can't wait for more. It was alchoholic. She was really drunk.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 15:55 |
Krad posted:Really? She just came off as angry in the following scene with Vee, and not even drunk-angry. That, plus the way it was shot whenever she went to grab the jar, making it look like she was doing a bad thing, convinced me that it'd be about something else. Everyone has their vice. Lots of people in prison are recovering from one substance or another, hers is just alcohol. That stuff is probably really really nasty and provides a terrible hangover to boot, so her behavior is far from surprising.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 16:47 |
Krad posted:I guess I was surprised that she was hiding it in a place where everything ends up in the open... and also that she wouldn't share with anyone, including Taystee. Addicts hide their stash.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 20:30 |
Krad posted:I thought they'd go somewhere with it but it ended up being nothing, sue me. We will be getting some drug addiction hand wringing next season, for sure. It just won't be Poussey.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 21:08 |
Mymla posted:Nicky/Heroin relationship drama is gonna be just as painful to watch as Larry/Polly. It would be interesting to have her actually become a dealer without actually giving in to her own addiction. But who am I kidding, she'll just be doing Heroin while selling it and trying to hide it from Red, who will find out and she won't be in the family any more.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 21:30 |
It sucks because I thought it was a great departure to start the show with most of the characters in recovery and lead by someone who actively doesn't want drugs in their group. And they had the great moment when Nicky gave the drugs to Red. But no, we must see this tired plot thread through.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2014 23:40 |
Xealot posted:Which is also the case in a good third of the plotlines, I feel. That incarceration isn't particularly helpful as a punishment. What's therapeutic is the support group of the other inmates. I assumed he was a character witness or something, and the credit card fraud was what she was actually being tried for.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 20:02 |
Sephiroth_IRA posted:I really enjoyed Season 2. Sometimes I'll hear a line or two that reminds me of some of the dialogue in Weeds (ugh) but those are few and far between. That was one of the best "Boo is loving with someone" moments.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2014 15:20 |
Davros1 posted:I'm afraid they'll just return things to status quo. The last episode showed Caputo loving up, so they'll bring back Fig as the assistant warden, and bump Caputo back down to his position Caputois going to stay as the assistant warden, I don't think there's any way to bring Fig back. The idea was that he kept crowing about wanting to improve the prison and be a more honest assistant warden. Then the moment he gets his wish he realizes what a pile of poo poo that job is and just becomes Fig 2.0, minus the embezzling.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 19:04 |
Xealot posted:I don't know why everyone says this. Caputo isn't "Fig 2.0" by any stretch. The fact he isn't infallible doesn't mean he's actively corrupt. He genuinely cares about making the prison run well, and actually cares about the prisoners. The fact he's blindsided by Bennett telling him the truth about Daya is a totally normal response: "Goddammit, man, this is my second day." Being blindsided is rational response. Sweeping it under the rug is not, and is a tiny step in the direction of where Fig ended up. What I'm saying is that we saw Fig at the end of her tenure, where slashing the budget and in general removing herself emotionally from the prisoners she has to care for was just an everyday thing for her. Caputo isn't Fig 2.0 yet, but he probably will become something like her. I'd be willing to bet she approached the job the same way he did when she started. The idea being that the upper levels of prison management are designed to not really care about the prisoners they look after, as it would get in the way of their own job advancement to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzqO6UOPFQ Stroop There It Is posted:I thought the overarching plot was Vee's takeover. I can see how one may think that it was still meandering, because she sort of shot herself in the foot with her machinations. No one person was really responsible for what happened to her. Max fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 20:38 |
Millions posted:My main concern came from the episode where Red got slocked. After nearly choking Vee to death Red slumps back and has a realization that she almost killed someone so she could sell petty stuff to inmates... Except the whole goddamn reason Red got to the point of killing Vee is because she was explicitly smuggling in heroin, putting the entire prison (and Nicky specifically) at risk. It seemed like an odd moment for Red to forget her principles. Red has always punished people indirectly. Either by not allowing them to eat, cutting them out of the group, or getting them to get fired/arrested. Physically assaulting someone and killing them with her bare hands was not something she was used to. PT6A posted:I thought it was particularly funny that, after all the poo poo Vee did, it was being a miserable bitch to a woman with cancer that ended up getting her killed. Every time she pushed Rosa's buttons, I kept thinking "why would you antagonize the terminal cancer patient with a violent past." That just seems like a dumb move all around. Max fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 16:31 |
Piper and Larry are both incredibly selfish people, their reactions make sense for their characters.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 20:03 |
Vincent posted:Besides Piper and Larry I think the most un-likable character in the show is Black Cindy. Hell, they made her a TSA agent so my guess is the writers intended her to be hate-able and annoying. They didn't really do much to make her a redeemable character. She jumps on the best bandwagon when its good for her and is a jerk in general. Also, I've had stuff stolen by the TSA before, so I just instantly hated her when that popped up.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2014 19:40 |
She has a drinking problem and does very rash things while drunk. Doesn't seem like a stretch that she pulled something and got busted. She almost shot that German Officer.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2014 03:31 |
Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Rewatching it, I forgot how amazing Pornstache's return is, when he's walking down the corridor in slo-mo, giving shots to everyone for various reasons. The really great thing about his return was that it interrupted another scene that was going on. You just didn't expect him to intercede when he did.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 19:30 |
Mazzagatti2Hotty posted:S3 casting stuff, not sure if it needs to be spoilered or not: Are we sure that Pornstache isn't going to be in the next season? Mary Steenburgen is being billed as playing his mom on wikipedia. Maybe she'll show up demanding to be a part of the baby's life / demand custody of the baby since the mother and father will both be in jail.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 18:11 |
Drifter posted:http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/01/us/rapist-child-custody/ It's very depressing. Within the context of the show, it would make sense since Pornstash and Diaz are in jail, as is her mother. Pornstash's mom being the only one around that could take care of the kid would present an interesting bit of tension with the actual dad that the show will very likely ruin with some very bad writing.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 20:44 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 02:12 |
I really have no idea what they're doing with Diaz feeling guilty about Pornstach. Like, he was so clearly a bad person in the first season.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 22:45 |