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VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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comes along bort posted:

Stars, land formations, prevailing winds.

It would make sense for them to be hooded as they were leaving whatever port/city they came from, but having them just stand there the whole time with hoods on their head was done purely for dramatic effect and made it seem especially dumb. Also it kind of says something when that was only the 4th or 5th dumbest thing that happened in that episode.

Spoiler alert y'all: Crossbones isn't very good. It might be ok if they leaned into the goofiness in a fun, Sleepy Hollow 'This doesn't really make sense but I love it' way, but they take themselves way too seriously while also having a completely nonsensical plot and completely unnatural character motivations/interactions.

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VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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I always agreed with all of your opinions and I think you'll make a fantastic mod Irish Joe.

PS ban everyone

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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IRQ posted:

Bitching about commercials is their niche. The hate groups love to specialize, and remember there's BIG money out there to back these oxygen thieves in all their endeavors. But if we're tossing out weird theories, I often find it hard to tell if the people making bank running them are true believers or just amoral mercenaries.

Bitching about TV/movies/games is especially popular because it's a lot easier to just complain about how something is corrupting your innocent child's mind than to be a responsible adult and make sure they're not watching/playing poo poo they're technically/legally not allowed to.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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I'm glad I saw people talking about Dominion before the forums exploded since I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise. I checked it out and it's totally not awful! To be fair though I think it straddles a pretty thin line there, so hopefully it can keep going strong and not turn into the cheesy, awful sci-fi SyFy original series that most people expect it to be. I like the main dude and I think Anthony Head does a good job of being the evil dramatic villain without actually twirling his mustache. I don't think Michael's actor is pulling off the intimidating/brooding look particularly well, but I'm not too bothered by him since he's supposed to be kind of a wooden weirdo anyway(at least I think so?). Only character that really bothered me was the stupid orphan girl though. I have no idea what her deal is supposed to be besides being the protagonist's unexplained best friend, but I really hope something interesting happens with her because her lines were pretty cringe-worthy.

Also I don't mind the show's goofy take on apocalyptic future wasteland, but I think they really shot themselves in the foot by stamping the '25 years in the future' date on right from the beginning. It seems kind of silly that people would start calling Vegas Vega and take up the MGM/Caesar's palace logos as family crests only 25 years after everything went to hell. I know they're just kind of going after what happened in the movies, but I don't see why they couldn't just say that the child prophecy skipped a couple of generations or something, since that's kind of what happens anyway with the dude's dad having the tattoos and passing them on. But all in all I still liked it so I'll keep watching until the inevitable, disappointing slide into SyFy awfulness.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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The best/worst/funniest part of that is that the first three episodes of Spartacus were pretty bad. I can't imagine what someone who's new to the show is going to think when they watch Syfy's version as their introduction.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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hope and vaseline posted:

VH1's method of playing Showgirls: Digitally painted underwear!

Yeah this was my idea/hope when they first announced that they'd be showing Spartacus. I would actually watch it if that was the case, along with some super obvious dubbing over the more creative swears. Some intern could have a lot of fun playing mad libs to substitute words into John Hannah's more extravagant speeches.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Yeah Vikings being pretty good was a huge surprise when I first started watching because the initial promo just kind of made it look like some weird, cheap History channel cash-in on GoT.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Season 1 is reaaaallly rough, but it's also like 6 episodes and is, you know, the introduction of most of the characters and the show. Just breeze through them and then you'll appreciate it that much more when the show suddenly becomes really funny.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Be still my beating heart :allears:

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Ah, Irish Joe, still desperately clinging to the same tired gimmick despite not publishing a single noteworthy post since the 2 Broke Girls Treatise.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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No I'm pretty sure it just makes you an rear end in a top hat.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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...of SCIENCE! posted:

Also eSports, which is so desperate to be taken seriously that some tournaments aren't letting women play in them yet still has people using gamertags instead of their actual names.

Funny you mention that since it happened in Korea, where Starcraft used to be shown on two separate video game TV channels, and where players did go by their full names because they are legitimate stars. But yeah, lol eSports.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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To be fair, I think Malkovich could've worked out ok if Crossbones wasn't such a badly-written show. He can be pretty menacing and knows how to chew scenery when he needs to. The show (at least in the first 4 episodes I watched) just has no idea what it wants to be/do.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Except he's 100% right.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0kluTStX_Y

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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That seems like an overly pretentious way to say that they just didn't want to set it in any specific era, but I like the idea.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Cardboard Box A posted:

So with this, Taxi Brooklyn, Food Fighters, and Working the Engles, can we say that NBC programming has now surpassed the Community Finale?

So either Harmon or someone at Community got a peak at NBC's list of upcoming shows and spoofed it, right? Because the idea that they came up with their cheesy awful fakes by themselves and then were one-upped (one-downed?) by NBC's actual, real programming is kind of mind-boggling.

e: For some reason I thought 2-3 of the shows had similar premises, but I guess it's just Captain Cook/Food Fighters. Still an impressively fake-sounding lineup from NBC though. Hope some people got some well-earned promotions for those hot bangers.

VDay fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jul 23, 2014

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Ravane posted:

I don't deny that there aren't undiscovered classics like the ones you have listed, but considering that they have not made it into mainstream fame like the original Star Wars and the new Star Trek films, they're considered unsuccessful in my opinion. I've never even heard of those movies.

Aren't you the guy who didn't know who Alfred Hitchcock was? Maybe you shouldn't pretend to be the world's leading authority on what is and isn't part of popular cinematic history.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Josh Lyman posted:

How is Dominion?

It's not nearly as awful as 'SyFy Channel's sequel to the movie Legion' sounds on paper, but it feels like it can't quite figure out what kind of show it wants to be. The show is basically split between the stuff with all the angels and the political side of their goofy future roman-ish society. They frontloaded the season with angel fighting stuff, but now the show's kind of settled into this slower pace where they focus on the city's leadership and all the personal drama going on there and it just isn't really all that engaging. There are a few exceptions and to their credit they've set up some potentially neat things down the line, but to me the show is thoroughly 'meh' right now. With that said I'm still gonna keep watching unless it takes a huge nosedive in quality, so I'd say check out the first few episodes and see if it hooks you. If not then check back on it once the season's over and see if it improved.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Vikings season 3 trailer from Comic Con looks :black101: as gently caress.

http://www.digitalwack.com/2014/07/vikings-season-3-trailer-is-out.html

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Super Ninja Fish posted:

I get this from Walking Dead but not GoT.

Totally agree. As much as GoT has a reputation for killing characters, at least the characters earn their demise and their deaths are very rarely completely out of the blue. TWD has killed off dozens of people and it's kind of embarrassing how many of the deaths boil down to "And then a surprise zombie appeared and bit him". There have been a handful of deaths that were well done and emotionally powerful, but the vast majority just felt like the showrunners crossing someone's name off so they can have less people for the next story arc.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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ashpanash posted:

I've never seen TWD, so I don't know how they are handled, but for the most part I absolutely love how GoT handles (most of) its character's "shocking" deaths.

I think TWD's biggest problem is that it does the same thing a lot of action movies/TV shows do where the character's competence depends entirely on what the writers need them to do. So you get characters that have been shown to be incredibly capable zombie killers suddenly flounder and struggle to kill a single one because the writers wanted to have a suspenseful scene in the middle of an otherwise story-focused episode. Characters that have literally killed dozens, if not hundreds, of zombies with nothing but a tiny pocket knife will barely survive against two zombies who somehow surprise them in a forest during broad daylight. A character who wakes up completely surrounded by a giant swarm of zombies simply puts on some riot gear and runs through them all, because the show needs him to be somewhere else.

The end result is that a lot of scenes are completely robbed of any tension, because the characters' actions don't actually dictate what happens to them. It doesn't mean anything if they struggle or make mistakes, because we know that they'll make it out somehow if they're one of the main characters on the show, or trip and be eaten if they're some red shirt or don't actually matter to the plot.

In the show's defense, it's gotten better about setting up situations that are actually suspenseful and doesn't rely on 'Oh no the three most important characters in the show are stuck in this building I wonder if they'll make it out?!' quite as much as it used to.

VDay fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 29, 2014

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Yeah I was just about to mention it as well. I don't watch it regularly, but it's one of those shows that seems to be on BBCA a lot whenever they're not showing Top Gear so I throw it on in the background sometimes and it's usually really good. I don't watch any other late night show because I don't really care for the format, but Norton's show seems more fluid and feels like they're just shooting the poo poo a lot more than it being an interview.

Also Peaky Blinders was pretty great. Speaking of which, when is the second season airing? Pretty excited to see what they do with Tom Hardy.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Imagine Greater™

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Jul 2, 2003

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misguided rage posted:

I watched the first episode of Longmire after seeing it mentioned in this thread a few times. It was pretty good. I was incredibly surprised when they solved the case at the end of the episode though, True Detective and Fargo made me forget how procedurals work.

I also started watching Longmire and binged through the first season last week. I'm liking it so far and regret not getting into it from the beginning, although in my defense I saw one of those pre-trailer promos in a movie theater that made it look like some kind of cheesy cowboy drama and completely turned me off from checking it out until now. There are occasional rough spots (the number of times the super honorable, old-fashioned sheriff breaks the law For The Right Reason™ is kind of silly) and the main dude sometimes makes Raylan Givens look like a wall street banker by comparison, but I really like most of the character dynamics and the stuff with the reservation police force and politics is interesting without being too heavy-handed.

And I wish Peter Weller would show up in and direct episodes of every show I watch. That dude continues to be loving awesome.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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GreenNight posted:

Hand Of God - World War Z director Marc Forster makes his television debut with Hand Of God, starring Ron Perlman as Judge Pernell Harris. After a brutal rape devastates his family, Harris goes on a good old-fashioned drive-in style revenge spree driven by visions he believes are sent by his favorite call girl’s handicapped son.

I'm sorry WHAT? :stare:

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Speaking of which, I finally checked out Manhattan and am really liking it so far. Kind of wish that they'd focus on the science more, but that's more just me being a nerd than any kind of meaningful critique of the show. That and it's only been 3 episodes, so obviously the character introductions/development are more important at this stage. Definitely makes me want to go re-read at least Feynman's book and look up more info about the actual people involved. Oh and it took me three episodes to realize that the one dude was in GoT. Thought he looked familiar.

And I know this has basically been an accepted fact for a few years now, but it's crazy how much quality TV is being made right now and where it's all coming from (ie: everywhere).

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Yes believe it or not, a lot of people liked a movie where two bros go around killing a bunch of bad guys while spitting witty one-liners. Crazy, I know.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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hcreight posted:

Here it is, the ultimate TVIV clip: Alison Brie playing a Buffy parody on a failed pilot for a Not Another Teen Movie TV show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWPIVNqJ8K0

And then Jennifer Lawrence shows up for some reason?

Also holy poo poo the idea that a group of people sat down and wrote that and then looked at each other and said "Yeah this is really funny, we should definitely film this" is really depressing.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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They probably should've cut like 3 minutes out of the middle, but still pretty good I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Yeah that article is kind of ridiculous. "Here's the guy's answer to a yes/no question, but what does it really mean?"

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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I only watched the original Avatar series after Korra was already out and thought "Hey I kinda like these shows, let's see what the TVIV thread is like." Oops.

This last season was pretty good, you should watch it.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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I thought I just read something this week that said they're going to release the entire thing at once Netflix style. Maybe that was just a specific region or after it airs on TV or something.

e;fb

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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I thought the Constantine pilot was pretty good, although I also haven't read the comic so I don't have any kind of predisposition to the original material and don't really care about things like him not being able to smoke on screen. The change with the female lead could potentially not pay off and might be tricky to pull off smoothly, but I also thought she was one of the weaker parts of the pilot so I don't mind the showrunners going in a different direction.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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muscles like this? posted:

WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?

A genius?

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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So the Walking Dead spin-off show "companion series" got its pilot greenlit. Kind of weird to make just a completely different show set in the same world but in a different place and with different characters, but it's not exactly surprising. Kind of worried about them having to split potentially cool ideas between two shows given how often the main show seems to lose momentum during a season and spin its wheels for stretches of episodes, but hopefully it'll be different enough that that won't be a huge issue.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/05/walking-dead-companion-series/?hootPostID=68285635b15f2d690fe2d0ff66bdd097

Get ready for twice as many TWD threads!

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Considering that it's a reality show on A&E, I wouldn't be surprised if the island was just some little island in the middle of a lake in Louisiana or something.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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If they really wanted to get people's attention then they'd talk to the biggest porn sites and have them slow down as well. Netflix and reddit being slow will be annoying, but there's no darker, grimmer internet future than having to wait for 10 minutes for your porn to load.

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VDay
Jul 2, 2003

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Eh, I don't think there's all that much to miss in the first dozen or so episodes. The show never really deviates from the established character archetypes until way, way late in the season so it's not like tuning in at episode 12 or 13 will suddenly confuse any viewer.

If you're liking the show enough to want to watch more than just watch the whole season. The pre-TWS episodes aren't offensively awful or anything, they mostly just fluctuate between watchable and boring in my opinion. It'll help you appreciate the end of the season when the show suddenly picks up the pace, actually interesting arcs/characters are introduced, and things kind of almost matter as opposed to being pointless cases-of-the-week where our heroes triumph over some generic threat.

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