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Warmachine posted:All evidence suggests that, like plenty of liberal arts majors I know, she's bad at math, and probably doesn't care to bash her (admittedly invulnerable) face into it until she becomes good, like I did. Except Pintsize was using the fact that he was bad at science as an excuse, and the comic decided to side against him there. That's what Allison's whole head dance is about. Although, really there should still be a way for superpowered people to do these complex things without doing all the math and theory themselves. Construction workers don't need to understand how to follow the blueprints, and as I understand it, astronauts mostly just follow the instructions of the scientists at NASA as opposed to figuring everything out themselves. You don't have to be reduced into a simple human machine just because you aren't the one calling the shots. But sure, if her real passion is running a call center or however this whole thing is going to work, so be it. Some people are born with the capacity to see a fourth color, but they don't need to do make use of that for a living, and not all tall people have to play basketball. I just really don't get why she wants to specifically go out and get people with powers to do something that requires no powers to do. You're imposing a weird restriction for no reason. edit: Cat Mattress posted:"I'm afraid we'll be deviating a bit from standard analysis procedures today, Allison." This is great. You're great.
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It feels like the comic was headed towards a big takedown of "the man," the people who were keeping the people of the world down, and Allison was going to save the world by boldly quitting the business of chasing after giant monsters and supervillains and focusing on "what really mattered," but the writer matured some in the time since he started, and that Occupy Wallstreet simplistic optimism just isn't there anymore. So the comic turned away from the conspiracy plot, but without that, there was less grounding for Allison's moral high ground to the people she's opposing, and there's nothing left but unearned self-congratulation, patreon cameos, and a character who's great at punching things with nothing that needs to be punched. Furnace feels like he was discarded as an artifact of the old plotline, and this whole call center thing seems like it might be a gambit to make the comic more episodic and get out of the idea of Allison having to fix everything.
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Feb 29, 2016 03:35
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I sort of miss the comic trying to deliver a message, because without the quandries or even the ham-fisted moralizing, there's nothing but Allison, the most physically powerful person in the world who is breezing her way through college and having a great life and it's boring. Total snoozefest.
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Apr 23, 2016 04:03
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She wants to change the world with the power of her liberal arts degree.
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Apr 29, 2016 19:52
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These days, college has become widely accepted as a rite of passage into adulthood* where large amounts of money and time are ritualistically sacrificed so that offspring will leave their parents and maybe some employers will look kindly upon their achievement of earning a piece of paper and grant unto them a job which will spring into a career. *Of course, it's also the style these days to reject the title of "adult" because you just don't feel like one, even if you accept the duties and responsibilities of an adult such as providing for yourself independently. Childish hobbies make you still a child, right?
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Apr 30, 2016 04:51
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Maybe Allison should stop flying and compromising her invincibility field around the man made of deadly blade cancer. Just an idea.
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May 21, 2016 15:29
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Funny, I wouldn't really have thought the audience SFP was meant to pander to would be prone to that sort of thinking. Or maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way, and it's just that they are prone to looking at the world in a simplistic overly-reductionist way of thinking, where they think they can figure everything out while forgetting about the particulars of the human beings caught in the mix, looking at everything like they're some kind of lovely documentary maker drawing quick conclusions about animals.
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...so, the obvious question is how this guy (does he have a name? Lkeven?) has a very nice bottle of wine back at his place. His place, the building that burnt down. He either had some very bad priorities when rebuying his worldly possessions, somehow managed to salvage a bottle from the fire, or actually wasn't living in that building and may be some kind of disaster chaser. Of course, that last one is pretty crazy and the focus is probably going to be on saying that you shouldn't go home drinking with someone else or something like that.
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Jun 8, 2016 05:15
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It's not even standard interdisciplinary poo poo-talking, you could apply that to any field.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:06
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I can't wait to hear how the person who seems to be stuck inside a cylinder as either a liquid or a gas copes with their situation.
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Jul 6, 2016 19:32
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Lady, you're a body....of water...or gas, it could be either, the art's a bit ambiguous. But seriously, you're putting people who are severely impaired from their condition in the same room with people who just look a little funny. I wouldn't be surprised if the girl who just had the outburst there just up and left during the asari's page-long discussion about not saying the word "body" in reference to their horribly disfigured bodies. God almighty, this is insufferable.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:56
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Alison didn't tell anyone about Mary either, did she? The killings will continue, Alison's going to see in the paper ever so often that there's still men with their throats spontaneously splitting open in the middle of the street, and she'll roll her eyes and carry on. She wasn't particularly picky about her victims either, one only did domestic abuse instead of rape, one was only guilty of being a jerk and one hadn't actually committed any crime yet, they had just been caught probably attempting to commit one and was already going to expelled for it anyways, and she stabbed that guy's roommate. She's pretty capricious with her extra-judicial killings. Hell, with all those high profile mysterious murders that an awful lot of people react to by going all, "Gee whillickers, I'm not going to do all the stabbing myself, but I sure don't mind people being gruesomely murdered in public!" They've basically written the setup for Death Note.
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Jul 9, 2016 19:35
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It's a really fair point because of course she's not conventionally beautiful, she is some kind of anthropomorphic giant fish that barely looks human. What exactly would "you are beautiful" even mean to her from this group beyond some kind of blind positive reinforcement? It's essentially making the word meaningless. I mean, it's fine to not be beautiful, isn't it? It's through no fault of her own. Maybe this support group shouldn't be saying that like it's important to her self worth.
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Jul 12, 2016 15:27
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Well, if you worried for a moment that there might be some moral complexity, you can stop now. There's an interesting moral question buried in there about whether you should let people work in bad conditions if you want to, or if it's right to engage in unfair labor practices when they're illegal immigrants and those unfair labor practices are how they stay competitive enough to get work, but none of those are being asked here.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:02
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I think I like this guy now.  I mean, yeah, everything he's saying is full of holes, but that's the level of discourse I'd expect from a fresh, young college student. They're both arguing from positions of ignorance, too. For all either of them know, they could just be working on a nocturnal cycle, or they could be working under threat of being deported. Either way, this is probably the closest we'll ever get to seeing an alternative viewpoint expressed aside from The One And Only Correct One.
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Aug 5, 2016 19:13
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Technically he's right, it's just that the main thing Feral gets is satisfaction from knowing that she did good. Also, she's doing it in lieu of jail time for that man she killed, so there's that. Allison has a hard enough time with philosophy, I hope she never tries to wrap her brain around economics.
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Aug 9, 2016 17:28
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I think it's a valid viewpoint to try to categorize everybody's actions in terms of self interest (it's kind of necessary in economics), but this guy just expressed it in the dumbest way possible. I kind of hope he chases after her in his helicopter so that we can get some action out of this chapter with Allison having to dodge rotors while her invincibility's off.
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Aug 12, 2016 17:46
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Honestly, I'd be pretty uncomfortable about somebody poaching volunteers from support groups, but I guess Allison needs some place to recruit supers easily. Why she needs superpowered volunteers is still an open question though. Fish girl! I need you for my organization! Your ability to breath underwater will be excellent for providing emotional support for abuse victims!
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Aug 16, 2016 18:48
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You know, I was wondering why nearly all the dynamorphs are anthropomorphic animals, until it hit me that they're probably still cameo-ing backers.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:50
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Honestly, it's not like the furry cameos are any more out of place than the human ones. It's a bit of a shame to hear that Furries are the pillar upon which many independent artists are supported, but I guess that's doing business on the internet for you.
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Feral's sacrifice is so astonishing in part because it's in no way obligatory. It's so far beyond what is expected of her. Well it is a little obligatory in the sense that doing it got her out of jail for those people she killed. I would wonder if she'd still do the same if she had the option to go on an inspirational speaking tour instead. I wonder if they're harvesting her organs on an as-needed basis or if they're just stockpiling just in case. They made it seem like the latter, which kind of makes things more horrifying because organs are a perishable good.
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Well, going by the numbers given, she is capable of donating at least 83 organs a day, 113 if they meant that a full set of kidneys can be harvested each day, and god knows how much more it makes when you take into account how you don't need a full liver for each transplant. That...seems like it'd make a dent. She, by herself can more than equal the daily capacity of the entire country's organ donors put together (80), so if at least163 donations are made a day while 144 names get added to the list--that'll do it. I thought that not every organ would be a match for every person who needs a transplant, but I guess I forgot about the fact that her organs are magical and work with everybody. I don't think you could get around the whole deal where children can't take some adult-sized organs though. I feel like it's really implausible for these weird mutant organs to have no further complications, but that's what it's written as, a panacea at the cost of perpetual pain for one person.
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I hope there's a further twist where he was kidnapped by terrorists and traumatized by having to empower them or some poo poo. Also notable is how Allison tossed Patrick's money, but she's totally fine with using the dossier that he gave her that is much more definitely illegally obtained to illegally violate somebody's privacy. Totally legal money is bad, but definitely illegal information is A-OK. Galvanik posted:Lately the big reveals are tepid and it's killing what remains of my enthusiasm for the comic. It's unfun but not enough to make it worth reading negatively. Yeah, the comic really has gone downhill. It's not complex or deep enough to actually be food for thought, but it's too dead set at not rocking the boat much or saying anything specific to be an ideological preaching point, and god knows that Allison as a person and her adventures through life are boring as hell. There's just nothing to the comic anymore. It's boring enough that I would've forgotten about it if it weren't for this thread.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:17
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I don't think the comic was ever really against Mary. It did this gutless thing where it said upfront, "Hey, we all know that going around murdering people is wrong, right, but wouldn't it be soooo GREAT if SOMEBODY would go and SLICE OPEN EVERY MOTHERFUCKER WHAT DID WRONG AND IF ALL THE loving SHITBAGS WHO DISAGREED WITH ME WENT OFF AND DIED HORRIBLY DUE TO THEIR OWN HUBRIS, BLOOD SHALL FLOW EVERYWHERE--not that I SUPPORT that or anything...but wouldn't it be really nice?" Feral and Max both are fully within their rights to act or not act as they so choose, although Allison tried to talk both of them out of it. There's a good question somewhere of whether having some freak skill or ability by chance should dominate your life. If you had the ability to breathe underwater, should you be required to stay by the coast and forbidden from living in the desert? Should all supertasters become chefs? I really honestly don't expect the comic to confront that question though.
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Generally superheroes stay away from murder because that's where the fun and games of violence and concussions quickly turns into creepy murderporn revenge fantasies. The comics code prohibited blood, gore, and murder, and even though it loosened up over time, that started a trend that continues to this day. Nothing but consequence-free violence. Real-world vigilantism trends more towards creepy murder revenge
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Sep 26, 2016 00:13
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Man, Allison's a jerk.
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Sep 28, 2016 05:25
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Maybe have a little more tact with this guy who you blew up at last time when you're confronting them with their secret private information that you illegally obtained to get them to help with your dumb charity/outreach/cupcake organization.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:05
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Man, Furnace being yelled at for murdering people in the line of duty was probably one of the most politically relevant today things that this comic has done, isn't it?
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Oct 4, 2016 14:48
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This is a question of ends justifying means where there doesn't currently appear to be any conceivable end in sight.
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Oct 5, 2016 01:03
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She's not going to just empower a bunch of randos though, is she? Isn't it a fact of this setting that the outbreak of superpowers made the world worse rather than better? Allison lost her teen years to fighting randos whose first instinct to sprouting powers was to go on a rampage. Earlier in the chapter, we saw a bunch of people who have had their lives ruined or at least heavily shook up to the point of not being able to fit in with normal society by their spontaneous mutations. Giving more people powers would make things worse, rather than better. In the contexts of this comic, superpowers have left us with a bunch more organ donations, and then a death toll of a bunch of rapists, some cops, Furnace, some legal immigrants, that one guy in the first chapter, and an entire crowd of protestors.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:02
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The fact that the author wrote a rape scene and the artist drew it without either of them knowing it is bad. The fact that there is a rape scene, I actually like. I like Allison being so desperate for any sort of tangible progress in her idiotic quest to save the world with a liberal arts degree that she starts doing terrible things that won't even help if you think about it. I like the drat fool optimistic thing that this comic has been smashing hopelessly against the rocks.
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Oct 7, 2016 15:42
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That page perfectly encapsulates the basic thesis that this comic originally had. poo poo is ruined, she has these powers, but has no idea how to use them to fix things, so she went off to college. (of course, if she went and got an engineering degree or something like that she'd be able to make better use of her strength, but whatever) The Mary chapter really changed everything about the comic. The focus was shifted, but also basically every character from before the chapter was either put on a bus or had their character assassinated.
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Oct 9, 2016 15:58
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So do you mean to tell me that little miss "grow 20 hearts in a day" can't deal with a little fire after a couple weeks? She was moving and talking like a minute after the damage was done!
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Sure is good to know that there's no stakes to worry about. So what now, back to jail for those murders she did, or do enough organs earn her a parole?
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Oct 25, 2016 15:54
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I thought that she was just getting sick at the idea of having to notrape that guy again for the good of humanity.
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...so I guess the writer forgot about the murder conviction that Feral's still got under her belt. That or Patrick killed everybody who cared about it. And what about Feral's friend from before the donor hell? I thought they had a bit of a thing going on.
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Falstaff posted:Her agreement was most likely leniency in exchange for "donate a bunch of organs," not "endure surgical perma-hell." Feral's still keeping up her end of the bargain, so the agreement stands. Yeah, maybe, but there's no halfway house, no giving back the possessions she came in with, no parole officer to check in on her, no acknowledgement of anything. You don't just let somebody walk no questions asked with a plea bargain, especially not a bargain predicated on continued service. It's also pretty lovely from the perspective of Feral's personal welfare too. Are they paying Feral any for her organs, or do they just expect her to go off and find a job and apartment on her own? You'd think they'd give their golden goose something better than just turning her loose to bunk in a college student's apartment.
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