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You just have to understand the beat of 21st century fandom: 1.) Order the same dinner you had last time. 2.) See the garnish is slightly askew. 3.) Throw food on floor, stomp up and down on it. 4.) Take steaming poo poo on plate. 5.) Send back to kitchen, saying the chef should be fired because your meal was squashed and smells bad. Myself, I'm glad it looks like the more glaring flaws of the last season are over, and looks like there's more coming of the stuff I loved.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 04:23 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 03:54 |
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kefkafloyd posted:So Ba Sing Se is now Pyongyang? I can get behind that. Pyongyang was an inspiration in AtLA, so it makes sense to stick with it.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2014 03:32 |
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ImpAtom posted:I don't think it's really a case of 'smarten up' in this case. It is literally the core of his life. For it to be smartening up he would have to view it as "the art of Airbender" instead of "Airbending culture" and he has always had trouble with that. It was the core of his problem with Korra in the first season even, where he could only approach her from the perspective of someone who views the Airbender culture as 100% intertwined with Airbending. It doesn't help that in the absence of other airbenders outside his own children, Tenzin's life has been entirely about teaching Air Nomad culture to interested people who came to the temples wishing to become monks. He's used to spreading airbending culture even to people who aren't and never will be airbenders, so this is not just outside his experience, it's totally in opposition.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2014 00:35 |
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Sydin posted:I don't know, I can see how people might not be so keen on the whole avatar idea. The show has pretty much proved that a fully realized avatar is more or less unstoppable even by the strongest benders in the world, particularly with the avatar state (assuming Korra even still have this since she lost her past lives). As a result, the avatar more or less gets what they want, and can - if they want to - dictate the direction they want to world to move in. They're also charged with maintaining "balance", but it's such a loosely defined concept the avatar basically gets to decide for themselves what that even means. This is all well and good when you have an enlightened, truly balance seeking avatar, but it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility for there to be an incompetent, misguided, or even dictatorial avatar. If someone like Roku or Kyoshi had wanted to take over the world, who could have stopped them? I think it would be interesting if these new villains recognized this or something along those lines, and that's why they want Korra gone. When her poll numbers came up in the first episode, the natural answer is "Don't be dumb, Korra, you don't have to worry about poll numbers until the next Avatar election." And that flips around so easy. Sure, it being a kids' show and the Avatar being the hero I don't expect the story to land on the other side any more than anyone should have expected "Bending is evil and makes the world a worse place" to be the truth of the Book 1 story. But the Avatar being the most powerful and least accountable person in the world certainly makes a good motivation for doubt and opposition.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 17:52 |
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meristem posted:As I said, arts vs. crafts. How many people today can play sports professionally? This is covered, absolutely, 100%, by the fact that some people master techniques better than others. Even if the "secret techniques" of the previous show (which is more what lightning bending was presented like) had died out entirely instead of spreading, some powerful masters would be better than others. Even the more average benders, provided they lacked some outright disability, would still be able to master every available technique and still be formidable to someone who did not, even those who have more talent but haven't put in the time and effort. Just like in real world sports, arts, and other games. I won't make the art-vs-craft comparison because there isn't one: arts are crafts, at least when it comes to mastery of fundamental skills and technologies, and less definable "talent" just determining how you stand out against those of comparable technical skill. So, yes, intrinsic factors that come into play, but ones that determine whether long training and mastery of principles will make you great, or merely good.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 17:09 |
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Genocyber posted:Probending was interesting the first few times. But there's a lack of flair to it that makes it boring after seeing it a couple of times. Makes it a realistic sport at least. :\ Kind of. It was great, what there was of it, but I don't really want to see much more. It's well-conceived an would be fun to watch/play as a sport, so that puts it ahead of something like quidditch for fantasy sports. But Korra has short seasons and big events happening with opportunity for real fights, and if actual playing of a sport is getting a lot of screentime it's probably a writing problem. The pro-bending arc in S1 wasn't really a problem there, to be clear, since it was also doing worldbuilding, relationship building, establishing Korra's new avenue of training, and setting up the tournament ending. After that it served its point, and we didn't see much more.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2014 16:39 |
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I am not really surprised that a metalbender city in the Korra era is basically peak art deco. At the same time, I'm not complaining.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 07:48 |
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DrSunshine posted:Actually, the fight scenes were the only reason I really watched ATLA or Korra; I heard that there was cool, well-choreographed kung fu magic fights in it and it sounded neat. First to last blow, the big fight in The Chase is 2:20, or 20 seconds longer than the one in In Harm's Way. The whole thing from Zuko's arrival to the pan off the burning town is about 3:40, or 25 seconds longer than the recent episode. And the whole thing was given to the antagonists fighting people who aren't even in the primary cast. The complaints just don't add up well.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 00:12 |
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As a robot, I too cannot believe that a show whose characters are mostly teenagers and adults involves romantic entanglement.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2014 16:54 |
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Things I can't ever imagine someone in that universe saying: "Boy, I sure wish we were less careful about how we imprisoned the Avatar."
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 00:55 |
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Rincewind posted:I feel like an important thing to keep in mind with the Equalists is that they were taking advantage of the discontent and anger caused by Republic City's actual horrible class divides and wealth disparity and scapegoating the benders. Season One kind of hits the viewer over the head with the fact that a.) Republic City has a big class problem and b.) that those problems cut across the bender/nonbender line repeatedly-- i.e., how Bolin and Mako lived compared to how Hiroshi Sato lived, them making a big deal about how that underground community of hobos they hide out in during the last episode is benders and nonbenders living side-by-side, etc. Also the whole deal with the bending Triads. Organized crime never pulls its muscle from privileged classes, since they're not the people who only have street crime to turn to for wealth and status. On the other hand, in a situation like Republic City where poor benders (sometimes employed by wealthy non-benders as we've seen) prey upon middle/working class non-benders, it's really easy to create an anti-bender narrative like Amon did, without really even bringing up the root issues.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 01:55 |
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nutranurse posted:I get that, but what I'm saying is that it would be really easy to jump from 'We Just Fought A 100 Year War' to 'Because Of Those loving Benders' if you're some disenfranchised non-bender who is getting pushed around by a bending gangster types. It's not that much of a mental leap at all, especially for an aggrieved public. Yeah, it's really easy to do that, even if the war itself was entirely out of a cultural and technological divide, the sort which could (did) happen in a world without any objective splitting up of humanity by magic powers. It's a very natural sort of thing for a charismatic and manipulative "revolutionary" to support.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 03:28 |
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I don't think we've ever actually seen a legitimately wealthy bender who wasn't also some sort of monarch or criminal. Having the ability to bend doesn't seem to be as worthwhile from a financial aspect as being really good at growing cabbages and really lovely at making airships. At the end of the day bending is either physical labor or outright fighting, and typically takes long training as well. Both are things you can make a reliable living at and can be exceedingly useful with, but pretty unlikely on their own to make you all that wealthy. Outside of crime or military conquest, being a sports star sounds like about the only route, and Pro Bending at least doesn't seem to pay all that well unless you're really on top.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2014 01:25 |
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computer parts posted:Bumi was actually very clever this fight because instead of trying to depend on air bending he just grabs the dude and tries to bite his ear off. Really even with the biting aside, he's an experienced combatant, in a world where even if you're a non-bender you've fought benders before. Even if he's new at being an airbender, is it any wonder that it was his siblings that Tenzin asked to cover the escape of the rest?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 00:50 |
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Superstring posted:That's another reason to have Bumi be part of the fight. This is a fight involving all three of Aang and Katara's kids you guys! How cool is that!? They're over the hill (Bumi is retired for chrissake) but they're going down fighting four of the toughest benders we've ever seen to give their dad's dream a chance. Yeah, that's what I loved about the scene, getting to see all Aang's kids falling together despite the bickering and having an awesome fight to protect the helpless. Irish Joe posted:Kinda disappointed Kya isn't a better water bender. Katara was straight up OP and Kya.. isn't. She did pretty good for being up against who might be the most dangerous waterbender alive.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 23:12 |
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I always just figured that Bolin's confidence issues just made him desperately try to oversell his jokes/ideas.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 01:31 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 03:54 |
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Rosalind posted:
I recall she did get called "that giant woman" once, but at 6'8" or whatever it's not inaccurate.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2014 18:07 |