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Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

XyloJW posted:

I'm very glad we had this tedious discussion. It was very illuminating. Thank you.

You engaged fishmech, you know?

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 04:29

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:20

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

zoux posted:

Quick name one thing about Belgium.

Front 242 and one of the most horrifying examples of colonial brutality ever.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2014 17:02

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Batman TAS was great until they changed the art style to make it look more like the stupid Superman cartoon they were bringing out. One of the prettier shows on TV suddenly looked like a half-assed mess.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2014 17:48

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

So the solution for jobless law grads is to move to Belgium?

# ¿ Jul 1, 2014 18:10

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paragon1 posted:

I'm mad about trains in general. Some jackass decided it'd be a wonderful to run freight trains through my city in the middle of the goddamn night.

Good morning!

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 11:13

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paragon1 posted:

Same to you! It just occurred to me that I've been awake for 21 hours!

Throw some melatonin down your throat, lie down, and read something.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 11:54

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loquacius posted:

I was gonna say "how has that guy never met a Jewish weeaboo", then I remembered it's Stormfront and that guy hasn't met a Jewish anything.

I met a Lutheran lady who was kind of like a weeaboo for Judaism. It was weird.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 15:22

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

zoux posted:

I sense...regionalism chat...

Reminds me of that line about how being socially liberal but fiscally conservative is like saying "I hate the symptoms, but I love the disease!"

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 15:49

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

So is it kosher to say "hey, let's take this boozechat to the chat thread" then?

# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 01:28

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I thought Burning Man was the libertarian Burning Man.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 10:30

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I only know Pitbull as that guy we sent to Alaska.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2014 09:24

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

cafel posted:

Eugene V. Debs. The popularity of anarchism and socialism in America and Europe during the late 19th and earl 20th centuries definitely seems glossed over in most history courses in America, though given how quickly both movements disintegrated in the face of World War 1 nationalism, I don't think they're covering up a threat per se.

Well, that and the government murdering/deporting reds.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2014 15:41

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

This is a long and extremely depressing article about offshoring and American manufacturing. Here's a chunk from the beginning:

quote:

The humming Sparta plant had it all. For one thing, the town is within a day�s haul of most US markets�from New York and Chicago to Atlanta, St. Louis, and Dallas. Tennessee has decent, well-maintained highways. The plant was union�a new experience for Norris�but this IBEW local was steely-eyed about keeping and creating jobs; it had, for example, accepted a two-tier pay scale and surrendered contract protections in order to attract a highly automated production line from New Jersey. The press for that new line, known as a Bliss, was nearly three stories high (so big it had to be anchored twenty feet underground) and could stamp out eight or ten massive commercial fluorescent fixtures every minute. It attracted lucrative contracts from hospitals, prisons, grocery-store chains, and Walmart supercenters. Norris called it �a monument.� Brent Hall, the union rep, described it as a beating heart. �Every time that press rolled over,� he said, �the whole building would shake.�

Other production lines at the plant could push out smaller, custom products tailored to the needs of a specific buyer. A whole swath of the maintenance crew had been sent, on the plant�s dime, to get certified as industrial electricians and welders and millwrights so that they could retool machines on the fly, switching production from one job to the next in a matter of minutes. �Anything they wanted, we�d build it for them,� Scott Vincent, one veteran electrician told me. With Uhrik and Norris at the helm, the plant started buying steel and other inventory on consignment, and trimmed turnaround times to the point that its invoices would be getting paid before the bills on raw materials were even due. Tasked with cutting costs by $4 million, the management team tapped employees to identify inefficiencies in the assembly process, worked with suppliers to reduce components costs, and drastically reduced the number of products with defects. The plant boosted productivity by 7 percent and kept labor costs low, at around 4 percent. Still, thanks to the union, most workers were earning $13 to $15 an hour��real decent money around here,� as one maintenance worker told me, especially for a workforce where many had never graduated high school�with two to three weeks of vacation and a blue-chip health plan. Employees stuck around for years, knew their jobs inside and out, and had a rare esprit de corps. When they faced tight deadlines, fabricators would volunteer to come in as early as 4 or 5 a.m. so they could get a head start before the paint crew arrived at six. In December 2009 the Sparta facility was named by IndustryWeek as a Best Plant of the year, one of the top ten in North America. In the months that followed, it won Best Plant within Philips�s global lighting division as well as the firm�s global �Lean Challenge.� That summer, plant managers invited state officials and legislators to Sparta to celebrate.

Then, one morning in November 2010, a Philips executive no one recognized drove up and walked into the plant, accompanied by a security guard wearing sunglasses and a sidearm. He summoned all the employees back to the shipping department and abruptly announced that the plant would be shut down. Though the workers didn�t know it at the time, most of their jobs would be offshored to Monterrey, Mexico. The two of them then walked out the door and drove off. �It was a shock, I�ll tell you,� Ricky Lack said more than two years later. Still brawny in his late fifties, he�d hired on at the plant in 1977, when he was nineteen years old. �My dad worked there,� he said. �Half the plant�s mom or dad or brother worked there. We still don�t know why they left.�

If you listen to any mainstream economist�say, former White House economic advisor Gregory Mankiw, the author of one of the nation�s most popular economics textbooks�you�ll learn that �productivity growth is good for American workers.� Productivity goes up, and with it comes rising prosperity for all. As Adam Davidson, the popular economics guru of Planet Money and the New York Times Magazine, wrote recently, �Productivity, in and of itself, is a remarkably good thing. Only through productivity growth can the average quality of human life improve.�

American workers are astonishingly productive. In fact, American labor productivity has grown every single year for the past three decades, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. US productivity zoomed up after the most recent financial crash, rising sharply from 2008 to 2009, and again from 2009 to 2010. By contrast, productivity actually shrank during this period in such industrialized nations as Japan, Germany, and the UK. Sure, a share of these productivity gains are due to American firms outsourcing and offshoring jobs to cheap labor markets, but the bulk of it comes from American workers adapting to new, more efficient technologies and working harder and faster than ever before�and for less pay.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle tend to lean on American productivity as the solution to our current economic woes, a phenomenon in force during the last presidential campaign. �I know we can out-compete any other nation on Earth,� Barack Obama told the nation in a weekly address in January 2011. �We just have to make sure we�re doing everything we can to unlock the productivity of American workers, unleash the ingenuity of American businesses, and harness the dynamism of America�s economy.� Mitt Romney, too, argued that �[a] productivity and growth strategy has immediate and very personal benefits,� and that �economic vitality, innovation, and productivity are inexorably linked with the happiness and well-being of our citizens.� The idea being that if we sprinkle a little stimulus money here or some deregulation there, depending upon your orientation, American workers will somehow, through sheer grit and generous doses of Red Bull, be able to dig deep and work even faster, even harder, and even more efficiently than before�even though they�ve been doing so for decades�thereby jump-starting our economic engine. After that, the sky�s the limit.

So why didn�t this play out for the ferociously productive workers at Philips�s award-winning plant in Tennessee? This �engaged workforce,� in the words of IndustryWeek, had hiked production on some lines by more than 60 percent, cut changeover time between small orders by 90 percent, and reduced the number of defective parts by 95 percent, making the plant one of the most productive in America.

There is data to bolster the gospel of productivity. From the end of World War II until the early 1970s, when many policy makers were coming of age, productivity and wages rose in tandem in the United States, in a steady upward curve of prosperity so dependable that it began to seem inevitable. But since then, as economists only began to notice in the mid-1990s, productivity has continued to grow while real wages have flattened or even dropped for a majority of workers; most of the real income growth in recent decades has come from households working more hours or more jobs.

During the current recovery, productivity growth hasn�t even resulted in increased hiring; rather, it has occurred in concert with massive layoffs and record long-term unemployment. �U.S. employers cut jobs pitilessly� during the recession, noted a typical story from the Associated Press. �Yet after shrinking payrolls, many companies found they could produce just as much with fewer workers.� The result has been a recovery marked by increased productivity and record corporate profits, but with catastrophically low employment growth. Yet economists and pundits continue to chew over our �jobless recovery� as if it were an anomaly.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2014 18:18

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

AstheWorldWorlds posted:

If anyone misses jrodefeld's walls of nonsense he is currently performing his act on revleft forums.

One of the funniest things about libertarians is their simultaneous hate for anarchists and desire to be accepted by/recruit from anarchists. Hang around on enough lefty forums and you'll see it over and over again, and it just gets funnier every time.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 02:20

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

It could be worse though. English isn't a tonal language, it doesn't have genders, and it's got a simple alphabet.

"I'm on a plane" is perfectly acceptable too.

Or a boat!

# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 11:35

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

razorrozar posted:

You beautiful bastard.

e: haha, poor Jorma

this is correct

Jorma having the worst day is the best part of that video.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 12:06

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rscott posted:

Playing anti flag in a bar full of rednecks and bikers; the glory of Internet enabled jukeboxes

They had some good stuff early on but after A New Kind of Army just about every song sounded identical. Disappointing.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 03:46

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illrepute posted:

Hey Absurd Alhazred? I just wanted to say that I really liked your posting in the I/P thread, and it was neat to get the chance to see an average Israeli's take on the conflict. I sorta.. hope you don't read the thread right now, because it's in a pretty bad place, but if there would be a chance for you to effortpost on what Israeli politics are like from your view, that'd be amazing to read.

Wasn't he the guy back during the Israeli protests was talking about how bad the Israeli middle class has it and didn't see any kind of a parallel or comparison to how Arab Israelis and the Palestinians are treated?

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 04:26

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Zizek: Plagiarist

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 10:29

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drilldo squirt posted:

LF literally got scammed for thousands of dollars by some guy claiming he needed the money to by pants for his boyfriend or something.

IIRC a dude said he had a job interview but couldn't afford decent clothes for it, so goons gave him some money to help out.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 12:22

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kelvron posted:

Pics as requested. (Phone posting so just a gallery link for now. I'll fix it later.)

http://imgur.com/a/gETqg

The invitation memento to Kit Bond's Inauguration and Ball is on a hefty slab of marble.

Will the 'Lincoln' poster be taking us to a gay bar afterwards?

You don't think the GWB library docent will want these?

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 23:30

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Discendo Vox posted:

Oh, jeez, passing over Widdicombe is a hell of a miss on my part, yeah. I saw Hitchens and my new atheist system went off. Well, IQsquared is officially the Jerry Springer Show of public debate.

At this point in the bar exam review process, death would be a sweet release. I'm almost done with the video lectures, just...eleven hours on contract law left...then I can start actually studying. If my posts here seem incessant, it's because they're my only breaks.

You can do it!

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 14:13

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moller posted:

I thought your gimmick was relating everything to Adam Curtis.

My gimmick is being a dork, nobody's allowed to steal it. Get your own.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 15:25

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ErichZahn posted:

It turns out my dad wasn't with Ollie North! He's just a piece of human poo poo who lied about everything other than being a Republican! He's a fake marine instead of a real one so I don't need to deal with any awkward poo poo at all!

Also I was an accident resulting from a one-night-stand.

Holy goddamn, man.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2014 11:34

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Warcabbit posted:

I had the opposite experience. All the bullshit stories my dad told wound up being proved true. Including knowing one of the guys who was there when Che was killed.

In food news: Pizza Hutt has a TMNT pizza special. I am being highly amused by people who are not general Ninja(Hero) Turtle fans discovering they like the Mikey. (Pepperoni, Pineapple, Jalepeno)

Right now, I am working on writing a video game. I have discovered a logically necessary design task has never been done in games that anyone can notice. This both confuses me and makes me very happy. It's not even that difficult. The closest analogy is one of those shoot em up end bosses with the three parts you had to shoot in the right order.

Few years back the guy who does the Angry Video Game Nerd videos hosted a party where they were eating pizzas with toppings from the TMNT cartoon. It's pretty amusing.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2014 15:20

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XyloJW posted:

One time I went to this gelatto shop in Gainesville, and they had a deal that if you buy a sandwich you get a "free" gelatto (it was basically a combo, but whatever), so I got the most delicious sandwich ever and a serving of gelatto on the side for like $6. The sandwich was a smoked turkey and swiss, with deli-sliced-thin slices of grilled apple on it, so let me loving tell you man, cheese absolutely goes on fruit.

Not gonna lie, that sounds delicious.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2014 15:57

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Let's just build the damned Culture already.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 06:46

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I like industrial music, 'cause somebody oughta.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 13:53

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zoux posted:

There's a whole Tool song about it.

"...the calm serenity that is Arizona Bay."

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 16:43

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kelvron posted:

I still listen to ska, because I am a child inside.

Five Iron Frenzy was a Christian ska band that was actually pretty good. I remember around 1998 being at a Christian music festival in Kentucky and watching them yell about how homophobia is a sin in front of like 20K southern Christians. 'Course, they were generally happier yelling at other Christians to stop being dicks than just about anything else.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 16:57

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Who What Now posted:

The hell is ska?

Are you like 15?

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 16:57

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Leroy Diplowski posted:

Oddly enough some of the best SKA bands on the late '90s were christian. The OC supertones was blaring in my car as I peeled out of the DMV when I first got my driver's licence. Feels like a lifetime ago.

Go and get your riot gear is the D&Dest christian ska song ever.

E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7EVIGsAmU

Skapunk was the official music of 90's Christian kids who weren't into CCM.

More FIF:

Old West posted:

West or bust!
In God we trust!
Let's rape and kill and steal!
We can almost justify anything we feel!
I'm climbing up that ladder, more brownie points for me!
I'll work my way to Jesus, just you wait and see!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zVg4TMC1U

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 17:15

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zoux posted:

I went to a conservative christian middle school and I have attended a Newsboys concert in person.

Newsboys were awful, but at least they weren't assholes like Audio Adrenaline.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 17:17

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zoux posted:

Did any of you cool Christian teens ever listen to Carmen?

Even when I was religious, you couldn't pay me to listen to Christian Contempory Music.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 17:21

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Swan Oat posted:

This cool Christian teen was into Zao for a time and wanted to go to Cornerstone.

Zao weren't bad. A bit more on the metal end of hardcore than I ever liked (being a huge Black Flag/Dead Kennedys fan as a teenager) but I heard their shows were amazing.

...I had too many albums released by Tooth and Nail.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 17:28

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zoux posted:

What do teens even listen to nowadays? What do the kids that would've listened to grunge/alternative in 1993 listen to now?

I recently was going to make a joke about edgy angsty teenagers listening to Korn when I realized that they haven't been big in over a decade. One of those "oh poo poo, I'm getting old" moments.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 18:15

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

DID SOMEBODY SAY DC TALK

Like, seriously this song was loving huge in Christian music in the 90's. Completely inescapable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbB0QrBIs9k

e: Wikipedia says the video was directed by the same guy that did the video for "Hurt", which is an hilarious reminder of how mercenary the music industry is.

Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jul 14, 2014

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 18:45

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Malmesbury Monster posted:

Frank Peretti formed the backbone of the fiction section in the church "library," and I read all of them. This Present/Piercing the Darkness are basically crystallized evangelical craziness.

I also collected Redemption cards in junior high because MtG was verboten. Gameplay is basically the plot of This Present Darkness, but with angels drawn in '90s Image Comics style. It's really embarrassing in retrospect.

Oh god, Redemption, I had a few decks of those and the strategy guide to the first couple of sets. Apprently it's still going- I remember around 2004 digging out my old cards and giving them to a college classmate to give to her kids who played the game. Got a very cute little crayon and printer paper thank you card for it. :v:

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 19:33

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comes along bort posted:

The gently caress backwoods rock did you live under. Swing revival was sooooo 1997.

e: also I feel sorry for you dorks who had to endure Christian ska. At least in the early 90s if you wanted Jebus in your music you had Mortification:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQZGJTgmq0

Mortification were pretty great. The rare Christian band that could survive outside the Jesus music ecosystem.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 19:54

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:20

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zoux posted:

One of my XM stations is the 90's alt rock one.

But they play way too much Nirvana.

This is what the 90's were like to have been a teenager in the 70's.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2014 20:53

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