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we are going to get rid of our imacs because osx is so incredibly problematic for doing anything other than browsing websites very slowly.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 15:13 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 11:48 |
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active directory is ldap
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 15:28 |
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lol. nice Linux u got there.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 15:31 |
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just because I like java doesn't mean I like bad software written in java.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 15:33 |
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write a script that runs at boot that reads the gpos applied to the machine and then sets the equivalent Linux settings.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 15:49 |
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people like macs because they think it makes them look better, not because they actually do work on them
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 16:58 |
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Mr Dog posted:i'm surprised there isn't a gpo or whatever to require every exe or dll on a windows install to have a valid code signature in order to load applocker does this I think. but yeah theres load of old, unsigned Microsoft stuff so it would be interesting to see what breaks.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 17:33 |
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you can, but it would be nicer if everything Microsoft related came signed on its own.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 17:40 |
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its a bug: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2726399
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 18:22 |
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if you install windows on a mac its almost usable. but academics are all about wasting grant money and macs are the best way to do that.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 20:36 |
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nice Linux nerds
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 21:13 |
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Shaggar posted:nice Linux nerds lol. failfox and chrome cause there isn't a single working browser on Linux
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2014 21:24 |
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infernal machines posted:osx had really spotty ad support until 10.7, which basically broke all the hacks you used to have to do to get osx to work on a domain (without it making GBS threads itself every few weeks). now it basically works and you can even do "fancy" poo poo like folder redirection to windows servers reliably apple should be writing their own gpo processor and release their own management templates for osx specific stuff. theres no reason not to and they've finally realized that wrt abandoning garbage 3rd party network share protocols in favor of the smb standard. not that gpos even really matter as much as osx just not working at all. we don't use osx management stuff at all because 99% of our macs are used as remote dumb terminals and they can barely manage that. garbage audio drivers, garbage osx versions of windows software, garbage networking, garbage everything. cant wait to get rid of them and go to windows so the users can actually do their work.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 14:22 |
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yeah that's the other thing. they break random things every point release so you never ever upgrade unless theres a feature you want and you've gone through a month of regression testing
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 14:33 |
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nobody wants to do serious work on linux
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 14:35 |
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from 10.5.6 to 10.6.5 or something like that dns resolution for .local domains was totally busted and their support response was "lol yeah, its broken."
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 14:45 |
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hobbesmaster posted:because microsoft never breaks things with updates. h/o whats this.. The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed that never actually happens without the admin loving something up. every time someone says "BWAHHHHH windows update hosed me!" its someone trying to hide their incompetence.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 14:52 |
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my boss did and it broke his mac so he had to flatten and reinstall
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 15:29 |
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it happens in osx, not windows
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 15:33 |
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they don't give anyone any notice before breaking stuff
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 15:59 |
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Microsoft doesn't break things. the admin breaks things and then blames the last update which didn't affect anything related to what the admin broke. apple doesn't announce they will break dns for a year and then they do it.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 16:02 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:in my experience that's generally been either a lovely system image or AD replication is seriously hosed up 99% of the time its because time got out of sync because some idiot got clever with the domain time config.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2014 20:26 |
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they still offer single purchase licenses which loving sucks cause I want vs 2013 and sql 2014 but we didn't get the subscription cause we're cheap as gently caress
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:18 |
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office 365 is so much better for small businesses that its not even worth thinking about.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:29 |
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"hey let me manage my own exchange and office installs" - some retard idiot fucker.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:30 |
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I cant wait till our ceo gives up his fight against the cloud so we can move all this poo poo to 365 and azure
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:33 |
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email isn't that important.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:41 |
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infernal machines posted:we have a client that does some gov't related stuff, we're stuck looking for third party hosted exchange for them because microsoft won't guarantee data storage in canada, only north america. lol like that's gonna stop us from stealing it.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:51 |
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you should tattle on them to the Canadian gov.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:54 |
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surely you can do it anonymously
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 18:57 |
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if you inform on them then suddenly they need to find a new solution and that means more consulting dollars for you
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2014 19:01 |
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qirex posted:yeah they already tried this and it was a disaster because they were so afraid that small businesses would buy them instead of SBS they were completely hobbled then had features removed through updates, etc. home server was literally windows server tho so it was weird as hell. like at that point merging sbs and home server would have made more sense. tbh a local home cloud and a local small business cloud could really be the same product just marketed to both audiences differently. the home cloud provides whats essentially a local cache of the users private cloud thru their Microsoft account and local devices can use it for media storage instead of using their own local storage and whatever other services you'd want for an always on device. like maybe they work out some poo poo w/ the cable providers and it also does dvr functionality. now any device can watch tv from the local clod/dvr w/out the need for stuff like cable card and u can make sure the stream is secure end to end and all that. it would be easy. then for small business its basically the same device but it handles local document/email caching from the small business's office 365 account and a local cache for shared files that is backed up/synced to the cloud. you eat the lunch of 3 or so different small business service providers in a way that makes it easy for them to transition into larger windows networks if they want later on. basically treat computers on a small business network like the loosely managed, byod systems they are. those guys weren't using gpos in SBS, but if you give them some basic checkboxes that are ticked by default like "keep the computers on my network up to date. Make sure everyone on my network has antivirus" you can take care of their real life needs without adding a load of management headache that they wont bother with. Then if they expand they could install an AD domain that could pickup information from the tinyclod and use it to create accounts for all the comps and then take over management. the cloud thing could still manage backup and file storage, but now management is done thru proper ad. I mean really you could even do cloud based AD instead and have the tinycloud be a relay. The SBS cloud system is office 365 and simple management that can later be upgraded to full hosted AD w/ hosted servers or local servers/comps all in the domain managed thru the hosted environment and replicated down to local cloud sync servers. If you move the management out of the device and into the cloud then you can use the same device for consumer and business and alter its functionality by subscription.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 18:28 |
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it should have been part of it but they hosed it all up w/ GAMEZ ONLY! and other dumb crap
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 18:50 |
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I printed something today!
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 03:59 |
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the problem is that they know some ideas are absolutely good, but they tie it in with some other hosed up poo poo to ruin it. Windows Store: good idea. Tying the windows store to windows 8 and the ui everyone hates: bad idea. Account Based Steam style DRM for xbox: good idea. Releasing only the negative information about your DRM at your launch event: bad idea. Using xbox to own the living room: good idea. Trying to own the living room by making xbox gamerz only: bad idea. Making the xbox a pc: good idea. Making the xbox a pc and then breaking certain parts to make it a hosed up, lovely, and more expensive pc: bad idea. Making a laptop that doesn't suck: good idea. Making a laptop/tablet hybrid: bad idea. and on and on and on
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 18:16 |
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Fabricated posted:I think regardless of user feedback they felt pot committed to the Start Screen/Metro look and any negative feedback would only be used to "adjust" it; no amount of criticism from beta users was going to get them to scrap it because it was the only major "vision" they seemed to have for win8. Windows8: faster and comes on your new pc. its also cheaper because we didn't waste any money on marketing
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 18:17 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:holy poo poo even native win8 doesn't have proper multitouch and smooth scrolling? really?? the platform made specifically for touch and then crammed into the desktop doesn't natively support touch? it does for touch screens but not for touchpads apparently. the screen multitouch works better than any apple device i've ever used even if full screen multitouch is pointless.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2014 00:58 |
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also vector graphics are the primary source of icons and symbols and stuff in xaml
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2014 01:00 |
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infernal machines posted:yeah, the problem with recommending a stack like that is even with proper documentation forget about ever being able to get someone else to admin your special snowflake implementation. it's a perfect model for a million cornercases based on what build of everything you managed to deploy initially. and who handles support? that's like four different "vendors" at least. the tco studies aren't even approaching bullshit. they're probably understated. you can hire a monkey of the street to administer windows. you need someone who understands how hosed up everything is in Linux and has the desire to deal with that poo poo if you want to use Linux. its just not worth it
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 14:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 11:48 |
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Sniep posted:im just saying, evaluate what you think is a 'thin client' thin clients were always junk for everything but the most specific use cases. now that desktops are so insanely cheap theres no reason to ever get a thin client over a desktop even if you use that desktop like a thin client for some users.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 14:51 |