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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Martello posted:

No, like if I saw someone with a really good original Spidey costume, I'd be like "hey man that's a really good Spider-Man costume." If I saw someone in that abomination above, I'd say "hey man, what the gently caress is wrong with you and how does that stupid loving jacket even work?"

What do you mean "How does it work?" It's a jacket, I've seen plenty of jackets that look like that (sans spider logo).

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Selachian posted:

Is that a back cutout to display a big spider tattoo? Interesting, but it'd make keeping the ol' secret identity tough.

Not wearing any type of mask might also make that a little difficult.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Yvonmukluk posted:

I'm not denying they're well-drawn, but the costume itself is rather dull in my opinion. The entire point I was initially making (and I believe fosbourne was making in his post about Spider-Woman, although I don't presume to speak for him-that's just what I got out of it) is that it's difficult to separate the costume in and of itself from how artists interpret it.

Actually they discussed the exact same sort of thing in the BSS chat thread, and Lurdiak pretty much sums it up rather well:

Context is important.

Edit:


I believe it is. I like the art but the costume design is painfully generic.

I don't know, I said in that thread too, the idea that this generation of comic artists are notably more perverted than previous ones seems completely laughable to me.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Lurdiak posted:

Man don't be so obtuse. I get that it's fun to purposefully misunderstand what I post so you can dismiss it, but you can't compare what Dan Decarlo drew in Archie comics to Greg Horn's Catwoman cover, even though Dan drew pinups like nobody's business in his spare time.


Hell yeah it is.

Yeah, but pinup style art in mainstream superhero books dates back to the 80's, at the latest.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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mind the walrus posted:

It's fun to be willfully obtuse and ignore historical context isn't it? I mean I agree with what you're saying, but come the gently caress on.

Yes, Superman's original costume was based on depression era pro-wrestlers and circus strongmen, but every modern origin for him bends over backwards to make it be his Kryptonian legacy (which I think seriously hurts Superman as a character, because it distances him from his origin as the perfect everyman). Combining the two is confusing.

My second favorite Superman outfit (the classic is my favorite, I miss the red underpants) was the Superman t-shirt with jeans that was used in Morrisons run at the very beginning of Nu52 Action comics.

(I like the bomber jacket art, but it doesn't fit the character).

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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SirDan3k posted:

Well remember the part in Watchmen where Nite Owl talked about having to redesign his costume to make it easier to go to the bathroom? Supergirl will never have to do that.

I don't know how connected the crotch plate is to the rest of the costume, but hilariously Supergirl's costume would make more sense if some of her stomach was naked too.

That's actually a halfway decent argument for the semi-standard teen girl 2 piece costume, (Midriff baring top and either a very short skirt or tights).

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Benny the Snake posted:

What issue is this?

I'm pretty sure it's from Darwin Cooke's New Frontier

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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zoux posted:

Is there an actual term for that style of headgear?

Not being able to draw different faces and needing a quick and easy way to differentiate characters in closeup?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Davros1 posted:

Jubilee did the same thing:



That actually legit looks like something a 14 year old would wear in the late 80's, early 90's, at least until Nirvana released Nevermind.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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While it has a lot of other issues, something I really liked about the Catwoman costume in Dark Knight Rises was who when she popped her goggles up they look like cat ears.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Say Nothing posted:

This is probably her best look.




Isn't that just Psylocke with a cape and hood? I don't know which design came first, so it might be the other way around, but I always hated Psylocke's costume.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Gaz-L posted:

Better tell all those amputee sprinters that they should be running against the dudes with legs in the regular Olympics then!

Well, that actually happened and it was a great story until the guy murdered his fiance.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Tiggum posted:

Is Daredevil actually handicapped in any meaningful sense? Doesn't his radar sense work at least as well as normal vision?

He can't read things without touching them, he can't see photos at all, and there was the time he said "anyone could be part of the Serpent Society, even this guy" while pointing to a black cop (the Serpent Society is a group of white supremacists, not a group of people who worship or are snakes).

Oh and someone post that issue of Waid's first run on daredevil where he takes a group of blind kids on a field trip and everything goes wrong.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Lurdiak posted:

For all its flaws, I thought the first Thor did a good job of being very Kirby costume-wise.

Loki's helmet was my favorite thing.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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WickedHate posted:

I like a lot of Kirby's art and designs, but never could stand the New Gods and the general ugly look the original book had. Those stage designs are bonzer, I wish I could have seen it. I don't even like that play.

You don't like Julius Caeser? I'm consantly amazed at how consistently you have the worst loving opinions.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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WickedHate posted:

I love Hamlet. :shrug:

Stopped clock and all that.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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NotAnArtist posted:

drat y'all just reminded me of the lovely FF film Doom and it's really bumming me out. Dr. Doom is my favorite Marvel villain of all time, and every film version I've seen so far has been really really awful.

I keep hoping the new FF's ''computer hacker doom'' is an elaborate troll designed to piss everyone off until the film debuts and the reality is SUPER RAD

It makes sense to me. They aren't planning on making Doom magic, he's the same age as Reed roughly, and Reed is at most in his mid twenties in the film. Evil Genius in 2015 means computer hacker. The Doom we know and love from the comics first appeared decades after Reed graduated from college. People forget that originally Reed was a WW2 veteran. He was in his mid to late 30's at the youngest in Fantastic Four #1.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Phy posted:

Nah, it's way easier. Superman was friends with Batman, whose clone-son and protege Terry McGinnis fought Mad Stan, who was voiced by Henry Rollins.

Who was in Scenes of the Crime with Jeff Bridges who was in RIPD with Kevin Bacon.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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It's sorta amazing they could make a Superman costume that so clearly evokes the one he had in Grant Morrison's Action Comics while completely missing the point of why it worked.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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I loving love the bunny ears. I'm not going to say it makes the costume work, because that would be ridiculous to say, but they do make the costume ridiculous, and if you can't have a good costume, you should have a ridiculous one.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Nevvy Z posted:

Is there a name for lovely low-content media that exists only as a venue to have women stand around showing cleavage? I'm thinking specifically of that mess above, those Grimm books, etc.

Soft-core porn.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Lurdiak posted:

It's kinda different when you exist in a shared superhero universe. Darkman just doesn't feel like a superhero movie, is all.

Up until the Marvel films no comic book movies really existed in a shared universe. Nolan's Batman films made over a billion dollars and have no connection to anything else.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Gavok posted:

Batman and Robin took place in a shared universe. Superman works alone, you see.

Apologies, everytime I try and remember details from that film I see a bright light, then blackness then I'm in a different city covered in other people's blood.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Senor Candle posted:

Avengers made that much by itself and it did have it.

Actually no, I was underselling Nolan's Batmans (Batmen?). The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises both made over a billion, less than Avengers 1.5 billion, but not by much, And for Dark Knight, once you factor in ticket price inflation including the fact that it pre-dated the post-Avatar 3d craze, it probably significantly out performed Avengers. (Dark Knight Rises also wasn't available in 3d because Chris Nolan is an auteur who thinks 3d is a gimmick).

The idea of success and failure has become completely hosed in terms of Hollywood blockbusters. Amazing Spider-Man 2 made 700 million dollars and is considered such a failure that Sony walked back to Disney with their tale between their legs asking for Spider-Man to be in Marvel movies.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Lurdiak posted:

That's because every movie has like a billion CGI guys and a trillion other random people working on it now, making them cost way way way more than they used to. Compare the credits scroll of Avengers with the credits scroll of Psycho or Halloween sometime.

Yeah, but if you can't make a success out of 700 million dollars, you hosed up somewhere. Star Trek Into Darkness came after and made less than 500 million and was considered a success. Thor 2 also made less than 700 million and Hemsworth isn't being recast anytime soon.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Decius posted:

Expectations and planning. If Apple sells only 20 million iPhone 6S it would be a colossal failure. If Samsung sells 20 million Galaxy S 6 it will satisfy them, because they took a severe beating last year. If it was still 2013 they would probably be devastated. If HTC sells 20 Million M9 they would be dancing on the streets. Same with movies. You can make a healthy profit but it still can be a big failure in the long run.

That's a terrible analogy because people who buy an iPhone this year will almost certainly not buy a Samsung or HTC phone this year (and vice versa), but there's a poo poo ton of overlap between people who watch Spider-Man, Batman and Avengers on opening night. Unless the movies open within a week or two of each other there's no market share to compete with.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Alhazred posted:

And hoodie-Gamora.

Gamora's original costume had a hood (and not much else).

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Teenage Fansub posted:

I bet they still won't let you use alternate costumes on the first playthrough :mad:

I just use the cheat code.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Dacap posted:

I just saw this DLC promo for Arkham Knight, the Batman Beyond suit is ridiculously overdesigned



Holy poo poo.

Edit: wait, the new one is rated M? The others were T, is it really that much more violent?

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Teenage Fansub posted:

Ehh. The aim was obviously to make it fit in universe, which it totally does. Maybe they should've said "BB inspired armor" instead of "Become Batman Beyond."
I might wear that over the stock one if they let me use alternates from the start. Please, Rocksteady?

e: I didn't mean that. This'll be my Batman...

I used a cheat code to unlock all costumes at the beginning of Arkham City and played the game as Denny O'Neal Batman (The blue and grey one). I miss blue in the Batman costume. But the entire point of the Beyond costume is being sleeker with less fiddly bits than other future Batman costumes.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Say Nothing posted:

A good explanation as to why so many female super heroes wear leotard-type outfits - they can hide them under normal clothes.



Terra forgot hers and had to fight trolls and ogres in her underpants.
drat, PG is a strict mentor.

If you forgot your gym kit you'll play in your pants.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Harime Nui posted:

Just for you, Lurdiak, here is the part with her cat



You realize 2 different panels feature her wearing panties in that, right?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Say Nothing posted:

I thought we agreed, it's skimpy so she can hide in under her normal clothes.



And the boob window is because... er.

If that was remotely true it wouldn't have sleeves or shoulders.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Light Gun Man posted:

Honestly it's weirder that in some of them she's laying around her house casually in her superhero outfit.

Nah, I figure that's just "I'll get dressed for work ten minutes early so I won't be late this time" kinda thing, panel 8 is the one where I don't think this page makes much sense if you're saying Power Girl isn't always fanservice.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Amanda Conner's Power Girl is basically a PG-13 Tijuana bible with better writing.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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mind the walrus posted:

And there's nothing really wrong with that

I agree completely, but don't try and sell it as anything else.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Say Nothing posted:

So the most sensible costume for a quick change would basically be a one-piece swimsuit?


No, because modern female fashion often has deep neck lines, so it'd likely have to be something strapless, or a bikini. Of course there's a modicum of suspension of disbelief, because the bright blues in Superman's costume would be easily visible beneath a white button up, especially one bought on a reporter's salary.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

So then the key is to wear a flesh coloured bodysuit.

The thing I always wonder about is whenever the costume gets damaged it's often implied this is the only costume the hero has, so if they wear that under their clothes all the time, how loving stinky is it, especially since it's not like they can just take it to a dry cleaners whenever it gets too ripe. wear the same underwear for a week, then imagine fighting crime in that.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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mind the walrus posted:

You're goddamn right. I hate it when weird Internet dudes fight the tide on this. Something something ice skate uphill.

Some mother-fuckers always trying to.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Chill Penguin posted:

I never saw this thread until the other day, but one of my favorite aspects of superhero comics is definitely the costumes. Would anyone be interested in seeing some of my own re-designs? I have noticed that a lot of my random sketches over the years have ended up being somewhat prescient/ahead-of-the-curve. Mostly Marvel, but some DC as well.

Go for it.

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