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Costume talk! There are a lot I really don't like. And most of them are women in stupid over sexualized outfits with stiletto heels that don't make any sense, would require metres of double sided tape, or would render the wearer incapable of doing more than carefully posing. Too many books try and be serious and realistic and gritty and the men are all nearly completely covered from the neck down while the women are in swimsuits or other ridiculous nonsense. It just wrecks it tonally From what I've seen Marvel is trying to move away from this, but stuff like the Justice League and Suicide Squad and the Lanterns in DC are all really super bad about it. But, there are exceptions to my hate. Like Elsa Bloodstone.   Elsa Bloodstone in Nextwave, has a bare midriff, plunging top and stiletto boots. Usually a terrible combination but for the book it works. Nextwave is loving ridiculous, features opponents grown from genetically modified broccoli, and Elsa is arrogant and gives absolutely no fucks. And the book is heavily stylized with Stuart Immonen on art. And he never draws her in cheesecakey poses. The further you get from reality, the more you can get away with before something is stupid. And when the other two women on the team are wearing completely different outfits, and flats, that means it was a deliberate choice and not just defaulting to lazy sexy costumes. Basically if this can happen in your comic book and it totally works with the rest of it as far as tone goes, you can wear the highest stilettos you want.  And Bulleteer in Seven Soldiers.   Her outfit and the art in the book is all cheesecake pinup super sexy looking stuff. And it's 100% deliberate because the book is hugely about sex and superheros and aging. She got her superpowers because her husband had a teenage superhero fetish and wanted her to never age and be attractive forever and he designed the costume, so of course it shows off way too much chest for any reasonable person fighting crime. And I like the underwear shaped piping on the back of it, it's clever. So yeah for me, context is key. If you're writing about sex, or writing sometime ridiculous and the outfits are revealing you'll get more of a pass than if you're trying to write a grim drama where 75% of the women forgot that pants are a thing.
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Say Nothing posted:
I much prefer this explanation http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/now-you-know-410571226 (and his summertime batman cracks me up because it still shows less skin that the average female costume)
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JacquelineDempsey posted:This was some pro-click for me, I really like this guy's work (though I still haven't found "summertime batman" yet) --- thanks!  It's funny/interesting that half the comments about it are all horrified by the idea of Batman in short shorts (admittedly with leg hair), while Huntress who runs around the same area of DC has had costumes with even shorter shorts, and a stomach window and that's totally whatever.
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McSpanky posted:That didn't seem to stop anybody from loving Carol's black-and-gold Ms. Marvel costume? It's a pretty standard swimsuit cut.  Unless Raven literally glues or double sided tapes that thing to herself she is going to get a wedgie in the front as soon as she tries to do anything strenuous. It's not that it's a swimsuit cut, it's that the cut is so high on the hips and so narrow in the front. If it was a lower and broader cut it would still be comic book silly, but I wouldn't be wondering if she uses her demonic magic to keep her costume covering all her bits. Of course that particular picture was Ed Benes and he went for porniest versions possible for a long time.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Flash - full body costume Suicide Squad being 3/3 exposed midriffs on the female characters (who show up in marketing materials) actually made me laugh it's so predictable.
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