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killaer
Aug 4, 2007
Hi.

I've been suffering from some insomnia lately. Trouble getting to sleep, moving around in bead, shuffling from one side to the other, staring at the clock, just waiting for the time to pass. Ambien did not help.


Do any of you guys have any suggestions for some kind of supplement/food/magick spell to cast or take that could help me get to sleep? Something along the lines of milk and honey, you know, an old housewife's solution to getting to sleep?


Thanks.

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RICKON WALNUTSBANE
Jun 13, 2001


For starters, work on your sleep hygiene. http://umm.edu/programs/sleep/patients/sleep-hygiene

Helpful Hints to Help You Sleep
Poor sleep habits (referred to as hygiene) are among the most common problems encountered in our society. We stay up too late and get up too early. We interrupt our sleep with drugs, chemicals and work, and we overstimulate ourselves with late-night activities such as television.
Below are some essentials of good sleep habits. Many of these points will seem like common sense. But it is surprising how many of these important points are ignored by many of us. Click on any of the links below for more information:

Your Personal Habits
  • Fix a bedtime and an awakening time. Do not be one of those people who allows bedtime and awakening time to drift. The body "gets used" to falling asleep at a certain time, but only if this is relatively fixed. Even if you are retired or not working, this is an essential component of good sleeping habits.
  • Avoid napping during the day. If you nap throughout the day, it is no wonder that you will not be able to sleep at night. The late afternoon for most people is a "sleepy time." Many people will take a nap at that time. This is generally not a bad thing to do, provided you limit the nap to 30-45 minutes and can sleep well at night.
  • Avoid alcohol 4-6 hours before bedtime. Many people believe that alcohol helps them sleep. While alcohol has an immediate sleep-inducing effect, a few hours later as the alcohol levels in your blood start to fall, there is a stimulant or wake-up effect.
  • Avoid caffeine 4-6 hours before bedtime. This includes caffeinated beverages such as coffee, tea and many sodas, as well as chocolate, so be careful.
  • Avoid heavy, spicy, or sugary foods 4-6 hours before bedtime. These can affect your ability to stay asleep.
  • Exercise regularly, but not right before bed. Regular exercise, particularly in the afternoon, can help deepen sleep. Strenuous exercise within the 2 hours before bedtime, however, can decrease your ability to fall asleep.

Your Sleeping Environment
  • Use comfortable bedding. Uncomfortable bedding can prevent good sleep. Evaluate whether or not this is a source of your problem, and make appropriate changes.
  • Find a comfortable temperature setting for sleeping and keep the room well ventilated. If your bedroom is too cold or too hot, it can keep you awake. A cool (not cold) bedroom is often the most conducive to sleep.
  • Block out all distracting noise, and eliminate as much light as possible.
  • Reserve the bed for sleep and sex. Don't use the bed as an office, workroom or recreation room. Let your body "know" that the bed is associated with sleeping.

Getting Ready For Bed
  • Try a light snack before bed. Warm milk and foods high in the amino acid tryptophan, such as bananas, may help you to sleep.
  • Practice relaxation techniques before bed. Relaxation techniques such as yoga, deep breathing and others may help relieve anxiety and reduce muscle tension.
  • Don't take your worries to bed. Leave your worries about job, school, daily life, etc., behind when you go to bed. Some people find it useful to assign a "worry period" during the evening or late afternoon to deal with these issues.
  • Establish a pre-sleep ritual. Pre-sleep rituals, such as a warm bath or a few minutes of reading, can help you sleep.
  • Get into your favorite sleeping position. If you don't fall asleep within 15-30 minutes, get up, go into another room, and read until sleepy.

Getting Up in the Middle of the Night
Most people wake up one or two times a night for various reasons. If you find that you get up in the middle of night and cannot get back to sleep within 15-20 minutes, then do not remain in the bed "trying hard" to sleep. Get out of bed. Leave the bedroom. Read, have a light snack, do some quiet activity, or take a bath. You will generally find that you can get back to sleep 20 minutes or so later. Do not perform challenging or engaging activity such as office work, housework, etc. Do not watch television.

A Word About Television
Many people fall asleep with the television on in their room. Watching television before bedtime is often a bad idea. Television is a very engaging medium that tends to keep people up. We generally recommend that the television not be in the bedroom. At the appropriate bedtime, the TV should be turned off and the patient should go to bed. Some people find that the radio helps them go to sleep. Since radio is a less engaging medium than TV, this is probably a good idea.

Other Factors
Several physical factors are known to upset sleep. These include arthritis, acid reflux with heartburn, menstruation, headaches and hot flashes.

Psychological and mental health problems like depression, anxiety and stress are often associated with sleeping difficulty. In many cases, difficulty staying asleep may be the only presenting sign of depression. A physician should be consulted about these issues to help determine the problem and the best treatment.

Many medications can cause sleeplessness as a side effect. Ask your doctor or pharmacist if medications you are taking can lead to sleeplessness.

To help overall improvement in sleep patterns, your doctor may prescribe sleep medications for short-term relief of a sleep problem. The decision to take sleeping aids is a medical one to be made in the context of your overall health picture.

Always follow the advice of your physician and other healthcare professionals. The goal is to rediscover how to sleep naturally.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.
If ambien of all things isn't helping you get to sleep I'd get a sleep study done.

When I had problems a few years ago sleeping I took melatonin and avoided using my computer/phone an hour before bed. Helped a lot with those problems. Or if you can't stop using them, at least get blue light dimmers for them. F.lux I believe is the standard for Windows and I'm sure apple has a program like that. Android does at least.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

I find Melatonin to be useful, but really working on the sleep hygiene is where it's at.

Bedrooms are for sex and sleeping, not computer games, not TV watching. Personally I find reading before bed helps me go to sleep as well. I'm usually out within 15 minutes of reading. I actually have a Nook I use just for reading before bed. Don't use your phone or tablet, too many distractions.

killaer
Aug 4, 2007

Stanos posted:

If ambien of all things isn't helping you get to sleep I'd get a sleep study done.

When I had problems a few years ago sleeping I took melatonin and avoided using my computer/phone an hour before bed. Helped a lot with those problems. Or if you can't stop using them, at least get blue light dimmers for them. F.lux I believe is the standard for Windows and I'm sure apple has a program like that. Android does at least.

Well I was recently committed at a hospital type place and given ambien to sleep. It helped the first few nights but eventually the stress of the place just made me toss and turn endlessly. But thanks for the advice so far guys, good stuff

Stellar Curiosity
Jan 15, 2009

I find that wax ear plugs (I prefer Boots's own brand) and a sleeping mask does a great job killing noise and light that may otherwise keep me awake. This way I don't have to listen to the flocks of seagulls and their young screaming all night. (or other annoying noises)

Aggressive pricing
Feb 25, 2008

killaer posted:


Do any of you guys have any suggestions for some kind of supplement/food/magick spell to cast or take that could help me get to sleep? Something along the lines of milk and honey, you know, an old housewife's solution to getting to sleep?

Nothing could be easier, just be tired. Try going for a run or working out a couple hours before bed. A good nights sleep has to earned. Unless you have a sleep disorder, then drugs, maybe?

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Corley
Feb 2, 2010

I find my insomnia goes away when I get regular exercise, just 30 minutes of cardio every other day seems to do the trick.

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