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The norwegian authorities have been on high alert for the best part of the last week, and now we have this: http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2014072818524795_uu.shtml A Finnish tabloit is saying that the Norwegian police force has requested to have checkpoints deep within ( almost ~100 km, 60 miles) the Finnish side of the border to control the flow of traffic and enforce response* if neccessary. Keep in mind, this is completely legal between the Nordic Countries (the law enforcement areas overlap 100 km from border and more if requested even without the host oversight) but the level of activity is completely new, never has there been roadblocks by other countries on the other side. In the history, the Finnish police force was sometimes requested for an armed response, since historically the Swedish cops did not carry firearms, but this is something new. Any idea what the hell is going on? *Edit: Deadly responce not excplicitly said, but probably possible if neccessary. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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http://www.thelocal.no/20140724/warning-norway-faces-imminent-terror-attack is a pretty decent high level introduction to the situation. Basically some of the security services got wind of plans to attack Norway and Norway was quick to publicize it and make preparations... perhaps a bit too much, according to some: http://www.thelocal.se/20140728/sweden-slams-norways-terror-alert-tactics
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Jul 29, 2014 01:15
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Racist nuts harking the loon-bugle of Brevik maybe? Its hard to know without the cops actually giving details. Its speculation really.
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Jul 30, 2014 18:37
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PST, Norway's civilian intelligence agency said that they had gotten wind of a possible terror attack in Norway by a Syrian group of some sort. No domestic right-wing stuff. It's basically lots more police everywhere and they are armed, which is interesting as police in Norway generally are not armed but one of the new government parties has expressed the wish to arm Norwegian policemen. I would guess nothing's gonna come of this, but I dunno.
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Jul 30, 2014 20:42
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Random, inchoate terror threats getting promoted by the government must be new to you all.
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Jul 30, 2014 21:55
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Yeah it sounds like the Norwegian political elite finally got around to reading the wikipedia page for the Bush Administration
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Jul 31, 2014 06:26
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A norsk acquaintance told me about this, and I asked "Lol why would anyone threaten norway though" and they said "because islam" so yeah i guess random racism / culturephobia or something i dunno
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Jul 31, 2014 13:54
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Quickscope420dad posted:A norsk acquaintance told me about this, and I asked "Lol why would anyone threaten norway though" and they said "because islam" so yeah i guess random racism / culturephobia or something i dunno
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Jul 31, 2014 14:05
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's funny, because the closest thing they've come to Islamic terrorism is the Israelis killing some random Muslim guy they thought was a Hamas operative or something, and of course Breivik trying to convince everyone to rise up against the Muslims by killing Norwegian kids. They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this:  Things start to border on Mormon-tier blind faith
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Jul 31, 2014 14:08
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Quickscope420dad posted:They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this: Yeah it's much better to celebrate your nationalism with HALO jumps into stadiums and million dollar flyovers, way less creepy
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Jul 31, 2014 14:35
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Quickscope420dad posted:They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this:
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Jul 31, 2014 14:36
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's funny, because the closest thing they've come to Islamic terrorism is the Israelis killing some random Muslim guy they thought was a Hamas operative or something, and of course Breivik trying to convince everyone to rise up against the Muslims by killing Norwegian kids. Mossad murdered the innocent Moroccan waiter Ahmed Bouchikhi because they mistook him for one of the Black September guys behind the attack on the Munich Olympics. That was back in 1973, I'm not sure if Hamas even existed back then. A more recent incident that might actually have been Genuine Islamic Terror was the attempted murder of William Nygaard in 1993. Since the assailant was never found we don't really know the reason for the attack, but since Nygaard was the Norwegian publisher of Rushdie's The Satanic Verses it's usually linked to Khomeini's fatwa.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:13
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Drakhoran posted:Mossad murdered the innocent Moroccan waiter Ahmed Bouchikhi because they mistook him for one of the Black September guys behind the attack on the Munich Olympics. That was back in 1973, I'm not sure if Hamas even existed back then. Drakhoran posted:A more recent incident that might actually have been Genuine Islamic Terror was the attempted murder of William Nygaard in 1993. Since the assailant was never found we don't really know the reason for the attack, but since Nygaard was the Norwegian publisher of Rushdie's The Satanic Verses it's usually linked to Khomeini's fatwa.
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http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search...s#results-table List of terrorist incidents in Norway from the 70s through the 90s here.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:08
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Turns out it was a false alarm.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:02
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Quickscope420dad posted:They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this: ahaha look how ignorant you are
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Aug 1, 2014 16:00
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Did you guys get lost on the way to GBS?
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Jagchosis posted:Yeah it sounds like the Norwegian political elite finally got around to reading the wikipedia page for the Bush Administration Oppdrag utført.
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Aug 1, 2014 16:22
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Quickscope420dad posted:They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this: Yeah it's extremely weird to wear traditional clothing on a national day of celebration   
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Aug 2, 2014 01:36
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All displays of ethnic heritage in the US are as well-informed as Tony Soprano's crew when they took a trip to Italy.
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Aug 2, 2014 01:44
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SedanChair posted:All displays of ethnic heritage in the US are as well-informed as Tony Soprano's crew when they took a trip to Italy. All displays of ethnic heritage everywhere are poorly informed.
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Aug 2, 2014 02:05
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Quickscope420dad posted:They have some kinda terrifying nationalism going on over there too. I mean Norway day when everyone has to dress in basically a special Norway-only uniform and marches around every city about norway being norway and everything is loving Norway I dunno maybe I overreact to it but when you celebrate national pride by dressing like this: Do they make children pledge allegiance in school? Do you see lots of cars with "support our troops" stickers? Do people get angry if a Norwegian flag is mistreated? Do they even sing the national anthem before domestic sporting events?
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Aug 2, 2014 10:52
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Sorry, yeah, somehow it slipped my mind that you guys all live in a country that's probably more cultish than Norway in its nationalism. I guess there's some level of it here in the UK too, but not to the extent that almost everyone is expected to have a particular retarded national uniform hanging in their wardrobe to be worn one day a year as is the case in Norway
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Aug 2, 2014 10:56
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Quickscope420dad posted:Sorry, yeah, somehow it slipped my mind that you guys all live in a country that's probably more cultish than Norway in its nationalism. We know you morris. We know you've got the bellpads in your closet. Come on son.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:10
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Obdicut posted:We know you morris. We know you've got the bellpads in your closet. Come on son. No but I have an uncle who
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Quickscope420dad posted:I guess there's some level of it here in the UK too, but not to the extent that almost everyone is expected to have a particular retarded national uniform hanging in their wardrobe to be worn one day a year as is the case in Norway That is a little weird but is it nationalism or just a weird tradition? Where I'm from we have seemingly absurd holidays but we keep them around because... tradition!
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Aug 2, 2014 11:46
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Anosmoman posted:That is a little weird but is it nationalism or just a weird tradition? Where I'm from we have seemingly absurd holidays but we keep them around because... tradition! I dunno I think having a very particular outfit that is like a national uniform is pretty nationalistic But all the opinions I have expressed about this were mostly formed after speaking to one particular Norsk person so I admit my view on it might be terribly terribly blinkered.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:48
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Obdicut posted:We know you morris. We know you've got the bellpads in your closet. Come on son. You're going to shame morris dancers right out of existence, then boom. No more springtime.
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SedanChair posted:You're going to shame morris dancers right out of existence, then boom. No more springtime. Yeah, no morris shaming plz
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Aug 2, 2014 12:10
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Norway has a national holiday AND traditional clothing?! Clearly, nationalism run amuck.
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Quickscope420dad posted:I guess there's some level of it here in the UK too, but not to the extent that almost everyone is expected to have a particular retarded national uniform hanging in their wardrobe to be worn one day a year as is the case in Norway It's perfectly normal not to own a bunad. I'd say maybe 50% or so sports one on the national day. If you want to make blanket uninformed criticisms about norwegian culture I recommend looking into FRP.
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The Erland posted:It's perfectly normal not to own a bunad. I'd say maybe 50% or so sports one on the national day. If you want to make blanket uninformed criticisms about norwegian culture I recommend looking into FRP. You're right. To be honest I was unfairly taking out my rage here about the acquaintance whose views I based these opinions on. They never struck me as a total dick but they gave the impression that their own level of nationalism was the norm in Norway. Still, 50% is a lot comparatively, no?
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Aug 2, 2014 12:49
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there are literally a million better critiques of norwegian patriotism than the bunad literally
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Quickscope420dad posted:Sorry, yeah, somehow it slipped my mind that you guys all live in a country that's probably more cultish than Norway in its nationalism. I'm sorry, aren't you from the country that rejects any kind of change to anything in order to keep your "cultural heritage" intact?
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Ilustforponydeath posted:I'm sorry, aren't you from the country that rejects any kind of change to anything in order to keep your "cultural heritage" intact? I think that's actually one of the more nationalistic criticisms of the direction the UK has been taking over the past 20 years? "hurr durr immigrants are bad, multiculturalism is evil"? I'm not sure to what extent I am a stereotypical brit really. I'm don't think I'm nationalistic at all so any degree of nationalism irks me
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Quickscope420dad posted:I think that's actually one of the more nationalistic criticisms of the direction the UK has been taking over the past 20 years? "hurr durr immigrants are bad, multiculturalism is evil"? I'm not sure to what extent I am a stereotypical brit really. I'm don't think I'm nationalistic at all so any degree of nationalism irks me I'm not referring to you personally, I'm referring to your "Norway is such and such" blanket statement, and that's a bit rich from an inhabitant of a country that has it's own measuring system made from bullshit.
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Quickscope420dad posted:You're right. To be honest I was unfairly taking out my rage here about the acquaintance whose views I based these opinions on. They never struck me as a total dick but they gave the impression that their own level of nationalism was the norm in Norway. Well every year we carry a tree indoors, decorate the house, wear silly red hats, sing Christmas carrols and eat various birds for 8 hours. Technically because it's Jesus' birthday but nobody in my family have been in a Church for 20 years except for weddings and funerals so really it's just a kinda weird thing we do because we've always done it. You can't gauge how people feel about the origins or connotations of a holiday just because they celebrate it. I mean I'm sure there's Americans with St. Paddy's outfits they take out every year but that doesn't mean they necesarrily go around ranting about Ireland all the time. Some people just like to get shitfaced in tap shoes and green top hats.
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Ilustforponydeath posted:I'm not referring to you personally, I'm referring to your "Norway is such and such" blanket statement, and that's a bit rich from an inhabitant of a country that has it's own measuring system made from bullshit. Not quite sure what measuring system you're talking about? the UK uses a mixture of metric and imperial? http://www.joeydevilla.com/2008/08/13/countries-that-dont-use-the-metric-system/ Also my general point about myself personally is that, since I don't like nationalism anyway, I'm open to equivalent criticisms of the UK as might be leveled against Norway...as such, the "that's a bit rich" is kind of irrelevant? It's not like i'm marching around in my british uniform whilst simultaneously critizing others for marching around in their country's uniform Maybe I'm missing your point.
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Which countries still do blackface santa up there because I think we need to put those on a list never allowed to use the term 'cultish nationalism' until they stop telling black people in their country they're not respecting their own heritage by not liking santa's blackface slave.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Which countries still do blackface santa up there because I think we need to put those on a list never allowed to use the term 'cultish nationalism' until they stop telling black people in their country they're not respecting their own heritage by not liking santa's blackface slave.
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