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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I've never understood the impulse to bully someone before, but I swear to god it would be so satisfying to just knock the books out of that bald fucker's arms and push him over. Like, it flies in the face of everything I know and believe, but wouldn't you relish the chance to dunk his head in a toilet with the knowledge that he'd be humiliated for the rest of the day every time someone asked him why his shirt was wet and whether he was ok?

I long to humiliate him in front of his father. This may be genuine mental illness on my part.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


They're slowly forming their own legion of doom. Whose mother's basement will have enough room for the two necessary card tables placed end-to-end?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It's a black fly in your bourbon that you just swirl around endlessly and never drink

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Looks like Fat agreed to get back together with Bald for the sake of the kids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaeIUUllSqs

I guess he finally realized that he got hit all those times because he deserved it and Bald only does it because he loves him so much it scares him. And God knows Fat is so ugly and worthless he'd never be able to find anyone else. He didn't know what he was thinking. So clumsy he walked right into that doorknob.

Or Bald has Fat chained up in the basement with only a keyboard to communicate.

Or Bald is faking the whole thing.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

He's a guy so dumb that most libertarians won't have anything to do with him, including the former libertarian presidential candidate who advocated legalizing child pornography as a way to disincentivize its production.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Fascinating.

I wonder how many of these scholars have fallen for things like Wake Up Now? A scheme like that may as well be the libertarian ideal of how economics ought to work...

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/543/transcript

Yeah, they fall for that poo poo all the time because they can't tell the difference between their idea of how the world should work and how the world actually works:

https://reason.com/blog/2015/05/19/is-the-seasteading-dream-really-dead

It's like they live in a science-fiction story every minute of their lives.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

neonnoodle posted:

Good lord they link to The Last Psychiatrist on there, are they so dumb that they think TLP is/was on their side? That guy is like if @dril and Zizek had a baby.

I read three of the guy's columns and couldn't find a thesis in any of them. He writes in the same garbage style as the rest of these turds and is a racist. How is he any different?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

BuckarooBanzai posted:

TLP's entire schtick is thst that modern psychiatry is meaningless and that the medical profession in general is increasingly irrelevant. I've never read anything on his blog that would suggest he is racist.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/judge_beats_his_daughter_for_b.html

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It's surprising that "in this day and age" people still look at videos and news stories as if they are actual representations of reality. Say it's real: since she knows there's a hidden camera over there, is it possible she decides, oh, I don't know, to play up the damsel in distress and not throw a chair at him or not blow pot smoke in his face or not reveal that what she illegally downloaded was lesbian porn? "Oh my God! That's no excuse for him beating her!" Of course I'm not excusing what he did, I'm not even talking about what he did, I talking about why America is obsessed with this.

Do me the respect of admitting to whoever is drinking a latte next to you that if these people were black, you'd have a whole different reaction. If you even had any reaction, because most probably this video would have sunk to the bottom of the Sea Of Youtube with only one comment that said, "what's amazing about this video is that the father is actually still living there."

You want to see superb belt technique go visit a Toys-R-Us in an inner city, and I have a weird feeling that the reason wannabe gangstas never wear belts is because of negative reinforcement. Furthermore, after carefully reviewing the data coming from every black comic ever those kids are getting a beat down from their moms as well, proving my thesis that if you punch a white girl it becomes a Breaking News, punch a black kid and it's hilarious. And let me offer without further comment a phrase you will inevitably hear the first time you try and slap your black girlfriend: "don't you raise your hand to me, you loving friend of the family, you ain't my daddy."

I'm making this point not because I want to be on the Jon Stewart show, but to point out that our reaction to the video isn't about right and wrong but about identification. And when the media elicits your identification, it is never about what you like but about what you hate.


That guy's a oval office. I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of ways to say that tv news constructs narratives out of the information it relays, and that most of them feature paragraphs with topic sentences and avoid telling me how I would react to something if it featured black people instead of white people.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Don't his politics demand that he accept being blacklisted? He should be ok with being enslaved and killed, too.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

"It's actually very common to critique democracy. This man critiques democracy. Therefore his views are very common



among Belgians pacifying the Congo in 1907."

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

This whole movement is a defense mechanism by weird nerds who resent getting laughed at by women, isn't it?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

And what woman or other normal human has ever spent five seconds thinking about cryonics beyond realizing that it's stupid nonsense and a scam for morons? I sense a lot of simulation behind the author's thoughts on women.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It seems plausible, though all those movements also grow out of a childish sense of entitlement that their adherents desperately try to rationalize away with dumb racism and evopsych about women not wanting to touch them or make eye contact.

There was a political scientist a few years ago who did personality inventory tests with libertarians and had them do ethics tests, and the result was that they had measurable deficits in theory of mind and capacity for empathy, and that they accurately predicted that they cared less about fairness and harm to others than the people they see every day.

So yeah, they're entitled spergs who expect the world to change itself to become comprehensible to their broken brains.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I think it's legally considered a form of ritual burial in the U.S. too, so the freezer guys aren't going to be able to get your corpse much faster than the mortician. There's a lot of paperwork.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It's just another case of dumb people doing what they imagine smart people do in order to commandeer intelligence for themselves. It's cargo-cult knowledge mastery, like how scientologists have an entire vocabulary parallel to regular English that does a slightly worse job of communicating than does regular English.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Polybius91 posted:

Anyone got a link to this? I'd love to read it if possible.

Phone posting for now, but the researcher is Peter Ditto:

https://socialecology.uci.edu/faculty/phditto

His articles should be listed on his CV.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Merdifex posted:

Nydwracu is the foremost neoreactionary / formalist thinker after Moldbug.

I wonder what it's like being the second-shittiest thing in the world second to a big pile of poo poo. Is it a saving grace or another layer of failure?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

InediblePenguin posted:

Because to be fair, they don't ALL look like whale carcasses, but there's definitely a unifying feature going on here

edit: theoretically they might not look like whale carcasses, I try to avoid storing any concept of what these people look like in my memory

They can also look like Borat or twink Anton LaVey. Sometimes just like older dads or uncles in polos with grey beards, if you expand it to include men mad about their divorces.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Klaus88 posted:

These people want to engineer a situation like the Cabin in the Woods episode of Robot chicken where women have no choice except to have sex with them. Or die. I'm guessing that most women with even a shred of self-respect would still seriously hesitate for a moment before going through with it, especially if they all have the "latent skinhead" look going on.

The bald supervillain one had a girlfriend who he drove away because he punched her during a movie. That is his origin story.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

There must be a big contingent of them that watches Game of Thrones, right? I can't think of anything in it that they wouldn't aspire to. Have any of them written anything about it? Who do they identify with the most?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Or I guess most of this applies to fantasy stories generally, with everyone being white and medieval european culture being the only non-degenerate culture around and the world needing harsh, realist responses that are noble and hard and involve capital punishment and suppression of the vulgar, teeming masses.

Are they into lord of the rings and stuff too, or is that too liberal in its importation of 1950s English Christian notions of mercy and forgiveness?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Cingulate posted:

Not if they're smart though - GoT is basically Feudalism is Bad and Aristocrats Suck, The Show. LOTR shpuld be more like it.

Though to be a Bayesian for once, the base rate is reasonably high so I assume they love GoT about as much as everybody else.

It seems kind of agnostic about its setting though: more like "if this is what the world is like, how do people respond?" Some people are bad, but the good people learn that they have to uphold the social order and decapitate people and soforth because only they have the strength to rule. It seems like the neoreactionaries would see the real world as being a lot closer to GoT than normal people do, with all their "race realism" and belief that feudalism is the natural order.

These same people idolized Don Draper, right?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I'm beginning to suspect that we shouldn't be taking these people seriously you guys.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

divabot posted:

Ya think?

I love following everything Aurini does, because he's such an unremittingly awful person, and yet such an incompetent clown. Everything he touches turns to poo poo and it totally deserves to. This latest is just beautiful in every way. Owen's video on the subject is the first I can recall seeing him look animated, like he actually woke up before making the video or something.

(Owen is a horrible person too, but compared to Aurini he's a lovely guy.)

This is the first time I've suspected he might be legitimately crazy. All that stuff he says about himself being a superlative film editor who can finish cutting a documentary in six months because of his unusual skill seems like pure delusion, given that he's an unemployed college dropout computer programmer who has never made a movie before now.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

What kind of doctor is this guy? How can someone so bad at reasoning be expected to diagnose and treat things? If I were seeing this guy for care and then discovered this blog, I would be terrified.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Protip: when all of the classes you teach have the same problem, look for the element that all of them have in common.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The people who just flirt with NRx kind of annoy me more than the people who go full fascist, because you get poo poo like this.

My knowledge of meta-level politics makes me avoid taking sides on petty object-level shenanigans like the riots in Baltimore, where everyone is blinded by tribal thinking.

Gamergate are the heroes of the modern age

It's like, you kind of have to try to be this hypocritical.

"I don't see the problem therefore there is no problem. I probably have deep thoughts about science fiction."

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Cingulate posted:

The sports analogy based criticism has been done rather well by Tal Yarkoni and Cosma Shalizi: http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2010...nitive-ability/
http://bactra.org/weblog/523.html
Cosma's piece also includes a :car analogy:

Although the most definite critical research on the validity of IQ, and of its (in)applicability for estimating intelligence, is probably still Flynn's well-known work.
And I'm really not saying IQ is a terribly useful, or valid, thing. But your criticism is nothing but uninformed.
Great, so "dumb nerds" who misuse IQ have now been discredited. Less so IQ.
Your 'short history of IQ testing' just shows how you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. "the IQ test"?
Every single thing you presuppose there is just egregiously wrong.
You, too, are pulling a Scott. And your conclusions don't follow from your premises.
IQ is a scalar trait and, as any other trait, to some degree measurable. That it's contaminated and noisy and only partially reliable and clearly does not precisely correspond to any out of the myriad of common-language meanings of the word intelligence is surely not completely irrelevant, but just as surely not the whole story either. Neither regarding the usefulness of IQ, nor of its relationship to whatever you consider intelligence.
MYLP

So what trait does IQ measure? What is IQ?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Doesn't an upvote/downvote system, by its very nature, encourage groupthink and prevent dissenting voices from being heard?

If you are unenlightened rabble, yes. Great minds, however, use the dictates of pure reason to arrive at the best decision. A clear consensus simply means that the best minds are all in the same place. The grey tribe transcends tribes.

Aurini really is going to go down attempting a spree shooting, isn't he?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

divabot posted:

He probably read this in September 2008 and still had it as a "cached thought". You really have to read it, it helped prime the LW-sphere to love NRx (and has a pile of NRx in the comments).

Oh, LessWrongers on whether or not to use their own made-up pseudophilosophical terms: "Is this really a good reference on common sense vs. cached thought? How does this reference clarify the concept of cached thought? Philosophy is suspect by default."

You'd think that they would have some affection for Heidegger at least in light of the way he spent the '30s.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Polybius91 posted:

What the hell is with these guys' obsession with cuckoldry?

It's a nice encapsulation of their abstract sense of being denied their birthright of rule and a life of ease by brutes who use deceit and force to steal what they should have. They're obsessed with the idea that somebody else has stolen what should be theirs.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

divabot posted:

This was that article from Scott that I quite liked, that made a point of how technology level strongly influenced how the society worked. (Though I would like to see countervailing opinions. Not many good ones in the comments.)

Does this boob know that hundreds of historians have already said this far better and more completely, and without the mistakes? Ego and native intelligence makes you dumb as hell.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

As far as I can tell, Scott has just kinda bought into the idea that all non-hard sciences are contaminated by far-leftists who wish only to prove Marx right about everything.

And yet he's making a very clumsy cultural materialist argument about social organization.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

divabot posted:

No, this one, mirrored here.

In other news, "cuckservative" goes mainstream. Congratulations to the memetic engineers of the alt-right! When Erick Erickson calls you a racist, you might be dogwhistling in basso profundo.

The comments under that article are insane. Isn't New Republic supposed to be a respectable right-wing rag?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

How do they feel about time travel? That seems more aligned with their interests than robot bodies or eternal computers in several key ways.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Also it's the triumph of inherent traits over practiced mastery and resilience--and childhood is pretty much the only time when that's true. I bet most of these people go to MENSA meetings, too.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Wait, what grade did he drop out of? Does he understand that when his parents die he will have to support himself?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I wonder what it's like to be consumed with rage over something most people will never know about or care about. He seems to break character to endorse prostitution and pornography. I think.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I had to quit both the freep thread and the polititoons thread for that reason. They do things to your mind.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

divabot posted:

Did I say pretty white girls? I meant of course pretty white girls with big eyes who are totally not like anime chicks (and who almost certainly don't deserve to be reblogged by a white nationalist neoreactionary).

I wonder how this Christian teenager feels about becoming an object of lust for a bunch of middle-aged nazis.

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