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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
And that, ladies and gentlegoons, is what we in Germany call a Backpfeifengesicht.

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
I also like the idea that elites not beholden to any form of public scrutiny or support would be less likely to go to war than politicians who have to win re-election every few years. It almost as if their entire worldview runs on the assumption that everyone else thinks like them and that they aren't assholes (they are wrong on both counts, who'd have thought).

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

This has probably been said before but it amazes me how these types, much like randroids, always think they'll be the glorious captains of industry lording it over the untermenschen instead of burning in the city when Galt goes Galt.

If they read Lord of the Rings, they'd fashion themselves as Gandalf instead of some nameless mook who gets offed in a skirmish.

It's mostly the usual nerd/engineer misconception where they think they've figured out how society really works and how it can be optimized. Since they know best how a spherical society on a frictionless plane works, they'll obviously be able to rise to the top fairly easy once the current system that is holding them back falls away.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Namarrgon posted:

Is it something about power that breeds pedophiles? Are pedophiles inherently more attracted to positions of power? Or is the percentage of pedophiles simply much higher in the population than I thought?

A little bit of two, a little bit of three, I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if power dynamics turn pedophiles on hardcore (as long as they are in a position of power), and how better to maximize that than raping someone who is as close to powerless as possible, i.e. a child? Couple that with the amount of resources someone in a position of power can marshall and you get a very ugly combination. I don't think that there is anyone who comes to power as a perfectly healthy human being and then turns into a pedophile all of a sudden.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

DeusExMachinima posted:

It's really funny how the people who can't shut up the most about how western civ rules and we've got to protect it from its ongoing genocide also basically worship al-queda's kill em all attitude and openly want to genocide them just as bad as ISIS does to unbelievers. If DE posters think THE TERRORISTS have their heads screwed on so straight to reality and all the western limp-wrists don't, doesn't that indicate western civ isn't superior actually, since its marketplace of ideas produced all these little babbys and their progressive enablers who can't handle a real man's man's war? You know the kind of war where you kill/gently caress/nuke everything that moves. Old school.

It becomes clearer when you realize that they don't mean western civilization as a cultural construct of values and ideas but really white people.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Slime posted:

But only the submissive ones, just like in my animes.

Excuse me, the term is "homemakers"

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

neonnoodle posted:

The great thing is that these guys for all their :biotruths: don't seem to realize that after you pass a certain threshold of misogyny, your odds of reproducing drop sharply.* I'm just hoping that Darwinism takes care of this for the world.

*In this country, at least.

No, they absolutely do, but they consider it a concerted attempt by feminists to wipe out the white race.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
protip: if you refer to your partner as your mate (and aren't, like, British), don't be surprised if they treat you like a dog.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Jack Gladney posted:

Or I guess most of this applies to fantasy stories generally, with everyone being white and medieval european culture being the only non-degenerate culture around and the world needing harsh, realist responses that are noble and hard and involve capital punishment and suppression of the vulgar, teeming masses.

Are they into lord of the rings and stuff too, or is that too liberal in its importation of 1950s English Christian notions of mercy and forgiveness?

I'm pretty sure they consider the Gondorian treatment of the orcs as the only acceptable way to deal with a large amount of black...let's call them 'beings'.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Political Whores posted:

It's one of the most meaningless noise-producing things you can do on the internet. I sort of wonder why websites even bother including it any more.

It gives the readers the impression that their opinion matters in some way while also being utterly irrelevant. See also: facebook-likes.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
I love how the entire thing is pretty much just extrapolating current trends into infinity and then freaking out when the results are terrifying. Computers have gotten increasingly powerful over the last few decades. if we extrapolate that trend into the future, eventually they will become so powerful they can simulate the position of every molecule in the universe with perfect precision, allowing them to predict the future perfectly! Why is no one taking this serious!?

Of course, there is a small problem. If we extrapolate the current trend of global warming, the Earth's atmosphere might start hydrogen fusion before then and turn the planet into a second sun.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Disqualified if you ever attended two protests or more? Jesus Christ those are some reactionary fuckers. Don't want no people with actual opinions here!

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

DStecks posted:

Can't wait for the AI that will reconstruct me based on the dozens-to-hundreds of social media posts I made while under the impression that I was straight. :v:

It's funny because historians have been arguing for centuries about how much you can really get from a personal account of anything, since literally everything a person leaves behind is written with some sort of audience in mind (even if it is just yourself), which you have to take into account when you interpret a source and which means that there are no sources that objectively represent what a person really thinks. At least not to the degree that full personality reconstruction would require.

But I guess since a sufficiently advanced AI is indistinguishable from God that won't be a problem.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Zemyla posted:

Honestly, the best argument that voting does matter, and one that might get through to these guys, is that companies are literally spending billions of dollars to influence it. Multinational companies aren't known for spending that much money on anything that won't help them.

No the best argument is "Does voting matter? Let's ask this Iraqi civilian about whether he would prefer a Bush or a Gore administration. Oh wait we can't because he's dead."

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Woolie Wool posted:

Going back through the LW mock thread, I wonder how on earth Yudkowsky would cope with a minor to moderate stroke or traumatic brain injury. Often in those cases you can regain most or even all of the function you had before the injury--but you have to work your rear end off, and sometimes learn how to do something over again, using a less optimal brain pathway that takes more effort. I'm imagining Yudkowsky, a couple of years after a stroke that most people would bounce back, more or less, from, sitting in a power chair in a nursing home drooling on himself because he was so unwilling to put any effort towards rehabilitation that he just declined, and is still declining, further and further.

No man, at one point he describes how he knows how to rewire his brain, but it'd be a major effort and he can only do it once. So he is saving that respec until he needs it to save the world (and he will have to live with the burden of that knowledge until then).

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

The Lone Badger posted:

So why not [strike]wish for more wishes[/strike] rewire himself as someone who can rewire himself as much as he likes?

That would be overpowered.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Heresiarch posted:

Bertrand Russell's first rule from his "decalogue" is: "Do not feel absolutely certain of anything."

If you are not plagued with self-doubt about your knowledge and your methods then you are probably not actually very intelligent.

This is really the part that pisses me off so much about the DE crowd. They make sweeping statements that would normally need books full of methodical discussion and hundreds of studies of empirical evidence to be even considered as possibly true, and they just smugly state that they are correct because they are true, and if you don't see that you are obviously an idiot. While that in itself wouldn't be too bad, they also have the nerve to wrap themselves in a mantle of "rationality" and claim that anyone who doesn't agree with them does it for irrational reasons (again, with no actual evidence given, because they already know that this is true and self-evident). So their opponents aren't just wrong and/or stupid, they are wrong because they are stupid.

I know it is a pretty silly thing to get mad about, but drat if it doesn't get my blood pressure up.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Merdifex posted:

John P. Rushton, avowed scientific racist, had a similar theory: you either have more brain, and thus more intelligence, or you have more penis, and thus you focus on breeding. He also did some amazing research to prove his theory which consisted of him surveying his students and random passers-by at a mall about their penis sizes and how far they could ejaculate.

That is the most amazingly stupid explanation of why nerds can't get laid that I have ever heard.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Cingulate posted:

In an ancient galaxy not much unlike our own, a species was discovered that sustains itself entirely on ~~~reactionary tears~~~. Today, it is pleased.

I feel mildly proud over this cause the last scifi book I bought had the word "biracial" in 2nd place for the author blurb.

The entire thing is so unimaginably stupid it's hard not to feel a sense of glee. No one is preventing them from writing good, old-fashioned sci fi where men are men and women need to be saved from the tentacled clutches of barely concealed standins for black people. It's just that other things are written now, and read now, and they just can't have that. I suspect it's the feeling that someone, somewhere, is enjoying something they don't approve of.

But anyway, enjoy VC day, the day we won the culture war. Reaction has surrendered unconditionally.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Cingulate posted:

Decided to check out Harry Potter And The Misunderstanding Of Bayesian Reasoning for myself. Here's from the 9th paragraph onwards (although most of the paragraphs are single-line):
So literally the first thing that happens is a by the book demonstration of mansplaining, followed by a woman being overly, and exclusively, concerned with her looks, and then being emotional?

Is this followed by an ironic inversion or is this how self-unaware the thing keeps on being throughout?

What does your heart tell you?

Wait, no, wrong user.

What does your cold, hard intellect tell you?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
A lot of it starts making more sense when you assume that Yud believes intelligence to be very much like the DnD stat. It also informs his opinion on how AI will come about: once computers get sufficiently powerful, AI will form spontaneously.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Wow, she couldn't have missed the point any harder if she turned around and shot in the opposite direction.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
"Physical attractiveness is a measure of genetic health" and the comparatively inbred European women are somehow more attractive? :psyduck:

And that's besides the fact that ideas of physical attractiveness differ from culture to culture and time period to time period. It make absolutely zero sense. I actually think it makes negative sense.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Merdifex posted:

Except they're just arguing that the game is bad or not a game, cuz women don't do games well, because women. Either that, or the game has some SJW agenda of including diversity.

And the gaming media only reports on it because of cultural marxism/ because the editor wants to sleep with the developer/because the editor actually has once slept in the same hotel one of the developers slept in. So it's actually about ETHICS IN VIDEOGAMING JOURNALISM.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Maxwell Lord posted:

Yeah I'm always amused at the MRA/GG panic being over "Third Wave" feminists in specific. The ones who statistically are least likely to want to take away your porn and video games.

You don't get it. They are way worse, demanding porn and videogames for women! No longer will you be able to just grab whatever video game from Steam, some of them might feature women who are not sexually available and yet successful have agency of their own without being villains and might even be better at things than male characters. How is a man to relax around such horrible things?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Heresiarch posted:

Also, in case anyone was wondering why the forums have been slow on and off for the last week or so:

It's about ethics in internet comedy forums

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Nessus posted:

Poor people work fewer hours... and are thus less hard working!

Because in this America, every hour of work is paid exactly the same. It's just a fact that an average CEO manages to work more than 200 hours a week, and they shouldn't be punished for it!

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Somfin posted:

Oh, you're working three jobs to make ends meet? Don't you know you can sign up for community college and study your way into a better job? Time isn't a finite and fragile resource for me, how can it be one for anyone else?

Yeah okay so you have to give up one job to free up time for college. That's okay, you can make up for the shortfall by taking out a loan. It'll be easy to pay off once you've got a better job.


Taking out a loan to cover living expenses is the very model of irresponsible short-term thinking and I don't see why I should have to pay for your mistakes.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Cingulate posted:

Gangolf Job may not be my absolutely favourite NRx, but I still want to nominate him for something. NRx of the month, do we have that?


Via Slashdot.

Red-pilled as gently caress, isn't he?

Oh God it's Treefinder, I was wondering what happened to that dude. I got regular mails from him on my old university account back in 2006. Apparently he sent it to all students in Germany or something, that poo poo was always hilarious. The guy is crazy, and not the good kind of crazy.

His mails were always these huge rambling rants that went on for hundreds of pages. I never read them but always took a glimpse, and every piece of it was completely crazy, like fractal insanity. From what I gathered he wanted to create a program to automatically create classifications of species based on genetics, which is cool and also good. Unfortunately funding got cut, and he went off the deep, deep end. He was rambling and raving about how it made no sense he had to pay rent to someone just for owning the house, how it was stupid that his research wasn't just funded, no questions asked, before making a swift turn and stipulating that every family in Germany should have its own plot of land to grow their own food, in order to be more independent on a national level.

As you can see from the quote, he has some really interesting combinations of nationalism and socialism in there. A form of national socialism, if you will.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Woolie Wool posted:

That article about Nick Land makes me want to ask him why people shouldn't support the Cathedral since, if you actually follow his worldview to its logical conclusion, it's in the self-interest of 99% of humanity to support it, stand by it, and defend it to the death. (presupposing that any of it is true, which it is not)

The cybernetic neoreaction future will take away your political voice, appoint a corporate dictatorship over you, replace your role in society with an AI, and throw you away like so much dead weight. Please do not support the people that are working to stop this, that's irrational.

Come to think of it, his political philosophy sounds like the plot of a video game...but in that video game the Cathedral would be the good guys.

Well, you see, 99% of humanity are not the nerd techlords, so their opinion does not matter. Neoreaction is an ideology by nerd for nerds, it's not supposed to offer anything for non-nerds. Non-nerds are the enemy to be overcome by the rational, super-intelligent nerd-elite who will rule with a strict but fair hand.

But you are right, it is straight of a movie-plot where the bad guys want nothing less than WORLD DOMINATION.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
It should be noted there was a second uprising in Warsaw by the Polish underground in 1944, which failed mostly because the Soviets decided not to continue their attack when they reached the outskirts of Warsaw and the uprising broke lose. They were much better equipped than the Jews and still failed.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
So it's just a bunch of nerds who are sore that no national news outlet ever reported on them bringing a homemade clock to school. Which strikes me as just another instance of the nerd-right getting upset over not having enough attention paid to them.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
The worst offender, of course, being that loving human progress chart.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I mean it's good that you can doubt some of your conclusions about the world because these idiots obviously cannot.

Pretty much this. The complete lack of doubt on the side of these people is what makes them so infuriating. There can be no rationality without being able to doubt oneself and be willing to go back on one's own convictions (which is why I always feel a little uneasy when politicians are accused of flip-flopping on an issue), and here we have people who claim the term of rationality while spouting outlandish ideas as self-evident truths.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Night10194 posted:

Why the hell would conservatives be attracted to the whole pony thing? I've seen that crazy 'my little national socialist pony' or whatever and I just don't get why they want those two things to mix.

Bronies have this really weird thing where they shoehorn MLP into literally everything they do. They write gigantic fanfics about Ponies in Fallout, too, having to jump through hoops just to make the idea of a pony firing a gun work. It can not be rationally explained, it just is. It's not conservatives being attracted to MLP for some weird reason, it is a Bronie who skews right for whatever reason doing what a Bronie does.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Curvature of Earth posted:

"Men are literally just genitals. That's all they are. Huge schlongs in search of ever more vaginas. They possess no qualities beyond their dongs (except for properly masculine ambition at work. gently caress bitches get money!). They are frat boys until they turn 40, when they spontaneously develop emotional needs and seek a long term partner. If every man were attractive, no man would ever experience emotional attachment before 40. All men dream of being unfeeling sex-maximizing machines."


I like how the MRAs have just co-opted the most radical (or, dare I say it, crazy) positions taken by feminists over the course of history and turned them right around. All men are rapists, so making rape illegal is a direct attack against men.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass.

The silhouette of a pony, seen from the front, standing on its hind legs

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

PYF Psychoanalysis Of Anime Fans

I'd say the main reason why the Alt-right loves it some anime is because everyone is white and runs the world as it should be. Also they can pretend the only reason they haven't won yet is because they haven't unleashed their full power, like Goku in literally every fight.

There that's my psychoanalysis of anime fans

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Puppy Time posted:

P. sure Attack on Titan was made by a literal Japanese Nationalist who supports the WWII war crimes, so there's that.

That's Gate.

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Finally a movie depicting Die Endlösung der weißen Frage properly.

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