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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Robocop doesn't have a dick, bro.

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

some loving LIAR posted:

Sorry, this was a lame joke about Kate/Katrina Pierson confusion.

nearly gave me a heart attack, ya bastard. this dumb election has taken so much from me, so many people I respected or at least thought were basically decent have revealed themselves to be loathsome shitstains. didn't want to add another name to the list.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
she doesn't feel any need to offer the left anything, never has, never will. She will never not charge to the right. "Vote Hillary or else Trump" is the only thing she has ever bothered to offer to lefties. Demoralizing but true.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Roko's Basilisk doesn't scare me, but should I ever be confronted by the baleful stare of the Moth-man, god help me.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
praise great KEK, who was Pepe, who will be the Machine God of the Singularity. send money now or be tortured eternally... for the lulz.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Race Realists posted:

Trying really hard to make it sound that you don't want to sterilize minorities here.

Yeah, that's what it all boils down to eventually.

"hey so I admit that there are substantial differences in intelligence between 'races' however the gently caress you are defining that. so, given that admission, what do you propose we do with this information?"

"weeeeeeeellllll...we could... incentivize certain populations to uh voluntarily uh have fewer children, there are a number of uh ways we could go about doing this..."

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
what's the subtext of those letters Joyce wrote to his girlfriend about sniffing her butthole.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Pictured: A rational mind


https://twitter.com/AsherLangton/status/749306829205671936

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Don't try to pin him down as an anarchist or a libertarian or a socialist. Easier to just call him a Weird-o and be done with it.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Mars colony in 2024. They gonna make it happen. Money solves everything.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
all the gibbering about space colonization seems sorta irrelevant to me given that most of the human race is going be scraped off the face of reality by climate change in a relatively short span of time. spending time and money figuring out a way to make habitable a barren rock rather than making an effort to preserve the place where the human race evolved, that seems like an extremely stupid way to go about things, but hey if I'm so smart why aren't I rich?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Nessus posted:

Yeah, I don't want to downplay climate change but it seems like there is confusion between "the weather gets shittier and hotter which causes a shitload more problems than you might immediately expect" and "Earth literally becomes Venus and everyone dies horribly."

But the end of civilization due to our own sins is, of course, also a cultural narrative people are fond of.

You could also argue that ecological research in spaceflight projects could lead to spinoffs that, in turn, could rehabilitate Earth (instead of, of course, the Just Leave It Alone And Be Good way of thinking, which, again, cultural narrative appeal) and while there are going to be losses, the losses may be reparable.

I'm not thinking Venus really. I'm thinking more along the lines of systemic collapse that occurs when the amount of energy needed to put out the fires climate change has started outstrips society's ability to keep up. Water dries up, crops fail, can't fish because all the fish are dead, rising seas, cascading failure of critical infrastructure. Then your good old friends the 4 Horsemen show up, with the massive population transfers and all the fun plagues and famines and wars that tend to accompany them.

I mean poo poo, there are places in the Middle East that are borderline uninhabitable due to high temps right now, and its only going to get worse. And when it does, are those people going to sit in place and boil alive or are they going to head northwest. Think the response to Syrian refugees is extreme, just you wait.

I do tend towards pessimism, yes. Hopefully Robot God will arrive in time to save us.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
The brave and bold libertarian Creators stride forth, solving through genius and sheer force of will the problems that Big Government solved half a century in the past using slide rules.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Well, alt-right morons like Matt Forney are definitely the type of people who would say something like "actully, sexual assault is good and cool!" so I bet there will be no problems.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

that's a lot of words when they could've just described themselves as edgelords.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Space Poodle posted:

I seriously, sincerely think this is what happens when you're the kind of kid who would have ended up building at least a *bare* minimum of accidental social skills through table top gaming 20 or 30 years ago, but had the misfortune of spending your prime socializing years in a post-MMORPG world. That isn't just a really weird, skewed view. It's a shut-in's view.

these people are nerds raised in homes with 4 tvs blasting Fox all day and their main peer group was 4chan. Living that kind of life turns people into these creatures we are discussing. Smart but not too smart, arrogant in the way only nerds can be, marinated in right wing sauce since childhood and suffering from a severe case of irony poisoning.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

I Killed GBS posted:

It's not really, there's a whole shitload of factors. uber_stoat just loves to condense complicated social dynamics down to extremely simplistic truisms.

Speak on that! Unpack it for us.

Welcome to SA by the way.

*I just want him to enlighten me. Darkly.

uber_stoat has a new favorite as of 20:15 on Oct 15, 2016

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Puppy Time posted:

I think it's fair to say that some alt-righters are conservative-raised, and some (or most) are from chan cultures. I don't think it'd be a really good idea to apply any background to all of them, because humanity is fascinatingly good at coming up with the same stupid ideas for an amazing variety of reasons.

(I also do think that the "gently caress YOU, DAD!" idea of alt-righters having a more liberal family background seems more likely, but I wouldn't expect it to apply to all of these guys, either.)

That statement is based on knowing some of these people, southern boys raised in conservative families, steeped in a stew of welfare queens and knock out games, and then they get on the internet and radicalize when they find an echo chamber. True that there are some bad rear end rebels who strayed from the teachings of their lib parents after contracting irony poisoning, but that isn't the whole of it.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
picturing Ted Cruz taking shape from a bloody pile of offal like that guy in hellraiser. Ted Cruz has no skin, he smiles his horrible smile and squelches wetly.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
the original



rzzzzz

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
the way I see it, oblivion is preferable when the alternative is let's face it probably this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhmFPvJldeI&t=92s

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
do they think we are in the matrix and if we hack the matrix we can climb out of the pod we're in?

I mean, the other option is that we're all just the dream of some unimaginably powerful computational device, and in that case we can no more escape the simulation than Mario the plumber can jump out of my TV screen.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I sometimes feel like most Dark Enlighteners would be happier if they just moved to the deep south instead of living in an urban area where they might face the trauma of seeing a Mexican person, or hearing someone make a joke about how dumb republicans are.

Feel like this is the origin story of Moldbug. Sheltered white dude moves to Cali for school, has to live in Oakland cuz he's poor, has to live next to black people...

tada, Moldbug is born.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
skin crawling over here, seriously. where do you find these mutants?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
we've spent so much time arguing about this gang of idiots, but maybe it really is just that simple.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Here's some comments from a musician who played with one of those groups and then fell out with them. Nazis? yup.

http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2011/06/karl-blake-comments.html

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Boyd Rice, dude who worked with Death in June at one point, is such a ridiculous edgelord, he's a perfect fit for the Dark Enlightenment thread.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
it's totally believable to me that there are people completely devoted to Trump worship who are ignorant of the most basic details about the political process. I guarantee you there are people that stupid out there.

*that video is amazing. I would probably hit up her patreon if she wasn't a Trumpy.

uber_stoat has a new favorite as of 01:24 on Nov 9, 2016

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
looking forward to their dismay and disappointment when Trump ends up governing like your bog-standard lovely right wing republican, just more vocally racist.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Woolie Wool posted:

He's incapable of governing, a committee of reactionary political and military leaders will assume the responsibilities in his name. It will be a lot worse than a standard lovely Republican, this will be a bunch of unelected, unaccountable oligarchs controlling the executive branch directly.

a cynical person would say we already had a guy like that recently and he served 2 terms. I wonder where the next war will take place.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

InediblePenguin posted:

weirdly we were also at war with Germany and my German-speaking Pennsylvanian great-grandparents were not rounded up into camps

by WW2 German people were pretty much assimilated, but they had a hard time of it during WW1. they did get arrested and imprisoned, not on the level of the Japanese, but it did happen.

liberty cabbage, the precursor to freedom fries.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

InediblePenguin posted:

Yeah, the family lore documents this. Of course, "assimilated" is of questionable application for a German-speaking enclave that had continued to speak German for generations after landing in the US (my family aren't Amish but were in a Pennsylvania Dutch enclave where the main home language was German until my dad's mom married an "Englishman" ...born and raised in the next town over, but not German-speaking). Still got treated better, in both wars, than Japanese-descended people were in the second; still a counterpoint to arguments that "Japanese internment was justified because when you're at war with a nation you're at war with a nationality"

ah, well, Pennsylvania Dutch would be a special case thing. I guess an insular group like that might be shielded from some of the nastiness that a german immigrant in a big city would be subjected to.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
the number I read for a Trump voter median income is $72,000. and really poor, economically disengaged people generally speaking don't really involve themselves in the political process much.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
so there's been this world wide American lead multi-decade pan-national thing that has broken down borders and transferred massive amounts of material wealth into the hands of a small group, most of them white. or Chinese, since that's the only other place that really benefited from it in a major way.

and now all the whitey's who used to be well off are angry, and yeah, lots of them are super racist, but even still they have been hosed over completely, and not for any kind of egalitarian distributive reason, but so that a handful of psychopaths can get rich. so now what. it's nazis or... *insert alternative here*.

uber_stoat has a new favorite as of 07:12 on Nov 19, 2016

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
I know... funny how that worked out, huh?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/FakeFattMorney/status/799836582928908292

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
the alt left are people who say mean things to liberals on twitter.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
is it any surprise that a fucker that looks like this:



probably subsists off a diet of milk, white bread and unseasoned chicken tendies?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nothing. His politics are uncomplicatedly fascist. He makes up idiotic neologisms to describe himself in order to provoke exactly this reaction from people who think words are supposed to mean things.

that Sartre essay about anti semitism keeps coming up. nails these dipshits dead on.

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



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Race Realists posted:

https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/804019776985055232

this is the type of poo poo that emboldens them. Why the gently caress would you make an article like this? It's like they WANT to elicit a reactionary response :bang:

they neglected to mention that latino gang bangers and fleet footed urban youths are responsible for most of those deaths, so it could've been worse.

but srsly just you wait until Trump and Co gut medicare and social security... they'll be burying the old rascal riders in suburban mass graves.

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