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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Kit Walker posted:

I mean, Darling in the Franxx is about a dystopian future where a handful of people rule over absolutely everyone and society at large basically does nothing at all because they’re immortal and willingly isolating themselves. The protagonists are a bunch of teens who are taught next to nothing about sex or adulthood and are used to fight creatures that interfere with humanity harvesting a source of near-infinite energy that both sustains the remnants of humanity and has caused virtually the entire planet to die

Oh yeah, and half of the fascistic council that rules over everything turn out to be aliens from another dimension. It’s not exactly a great show (and the show’s gender politics are just bad) but I don’t really see how it’s nationalist

Try reading this paragraph back to yourself, maybe? Or are you not familiar with aliens as an allegory for foreigners in sci-fi?

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

What is it callled? Please, I must know.

Might be thinking of Kantai Collection there, although IIRC, the odd Allied warship has started to show up on the good guys’ side.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Relevant Tangent posted:

You could have just said anime.

There’s a small but growing market of woke anime. The new season of Gegege no Kitarō explains to primary school kids why people shouldn’t be judged for having corrective plastic surgery, why it’s OK to be bisexual, why it’s not OK to stalk people, and why diamond industry executives deserve to be mobbed to death by their slave-workers.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Kit Walker posted:

At least one of the protagonists was gay and is also the one who figures out the cure for their accelerated aging and probably like 90% of the technology they use after they stop using the energy source that’s literally killing the planet

And yeah the government-aligned pilots are queer coded but only align themselves with the government because of extensive brainwashing. Ultimately they side with the protagonists, and if anything the show implies that queer people somehow make the best pilots

Like, this is what I meant when I was saying it’s really stupid to review shows through an ideological filter. I don’t think Darling in the Franxx has any really message to it other than “dystopia bad.” Everything else can be interpreted in contradictory ways. I think they just wanted to throw a whole bunch of stuff together that they thought sounded cool/edgy and that’s how we got the plot of the show


Also that if you mistreat your workers you’ll get killed by ghosts and totally deserve it

The queer-coded pilots are inferior copies of the main female lead who are treated as disposal both in-universe and out - after they get slaughtered defending the evil aliens (complete with some kind of uncomfortable rape imagery), the survivors sacrifice themselves for the main heterosexual couple when their unnatural lives start coming to an end. The one lesbian character is prematurely aged in another act of self-sacrifice, and while she is implied to end up with another woman, it’s in the same scene where she’s bedridden and apparently dying, in another apparent act of self-sacrifice (the cure she found for the accelerated aging came too late for her). The only queer-coded character who gets a completely, unambiguously happy ending is a guy with a crush on the male lead who gets over it and becomes part of one of the main heterosexual couples.

You’re focusing way too much on what the show says rather than what it does.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

chitoryu12 posted:

Is this just Pacific Rim?

Mostly, it’s Evangelion/Gurren Lagann/Gunbuster fanfiction by a guy who got lucky enough to work with actual ex-Gainax staff members, but I’m not ruling out there being a tiny bit of Pacific Rim in there.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

chitoryu12 posted:

The plot synopsis and setting sound literally identical to Pacific Rim with added anime weirdness.

It’s shared ancestry. GDT was a big enough weeb to take inspiration from many of the same classic mecha shows this did. In particular, the paired pilots both stories have are from the Eighties anime Gunbuster, although DITF makes the relationship symbolism a lot more explicit.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Silver2195 posted:

There's a lot of those. Most recently, the New Life+ anime got cancelled when the LN (WN?) author made racist comments online and people realized that the LN/WN was full of dogwhistles glorifying Japanese atrocities in WWII.

Specifically, the protagonist’s backstory had a lot of cutesy numerical references to the Rape of Nanking. Also, the director of MMO Junkie, a sweet and entirely inoffensive romcom that attracted considerable critical acclaim for the job he’d done adapting it, suffered an incredibly fast fall from grace when he turned out to be a straight-up Nazi.

There’s also Gate, Highschool of the Dead, Yuki Yuna is a Hero, and probably a fair few others.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

NikkolasKing posted:

Wasn't Highschool of the Dead just about zombies? Or was there something more overtly Far Right about it?

I know some people think zombie apocalypse fiction is inherently right wing because the government collapses and only the one guy who stocked up on machineguns survives thus "proving them all wrong" but wasn't Romero's stuff all anti-capitalism?


I had no idea anime was inspiredby Descartes and Spinoza. Anime seemed pretty hardcore Existentialist considering it's practicallya cliche to havean anime villain who wants to make a collectivist utopia or eradicate individuality to create happiness and peace or whatnot.

The parents of one of the main characters in HSOTD were heroic far-right nationalists (directly compared to snivelling, cowardly lefties in the chapters they showed up in), and several prominent Korean celebrities had unflattering cameos.

And remember that anime is a medium, not a genre. It’s literally just ‘all animated stories from Japan’. Assigning a single philosophy to all of it is extremely dumb and faintly racist.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

chitoryu12 posted:

Death of the Author is for hacks who aren't creating anything but want to feel like they are.

Eh, I think it’s entirely possible for an author to include a strong, consistent message that they never intended. Think of, say, the Save the Pearls series, a supposedly anti-racist story that turned out super racist. Or the innumerable characters who accidentally ended up as gay icons.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

hackbunny posted:

*a quick image search later*



lmao


Huh, first time a search for a "no, actually it's good" anime doesn't turn up anything gross

I mean, GGGNK is kids’ edutainment. The official product, at least, is unlikely to be gross (although we all know the fandom can be quite another matter).

For the record, the latest episode calls out the Japanese education system for glossing over the country’s bad behaviour in World War II, which is very in-keeping with the original author’s politics.

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However, in 1942, he was drafted into the Imperial Japanese Army and sent to New Britain Island in Papua New Guinea. His wartime experiences affected him greatly, as he contracted malaria, watched friends die from battle wounds and disease, and dealt with other horrors of war. Finally, in an Allied air raid, he was caught in an explosion and lost his dominant (left) arm. Regarding this life-changing event, a Nov. 30, 2015 NHK announcement of his death showed excerpts of a video interview with him at age 80, in which he said that as the only survivor of his unit, he was 'ordered to die' — a prospect he considered ridiculous. The result of Mizuki's wartime experience was a concurrent sense of pacifism and goodwill. In the same interview, he explained that his Yōkai characters can be seen only in times of peace, not war, and that he purposely created these supernatural creatures to be of no specific ethnicity or nationality as a hint of the potential for humanity. While in a Japanese field hospital on Rabaul, he was befriended by the local Tolai tribespeople, who offered him land, a home, and citizenship via marriage to one of their women. Mizuki acknowledged that he considered remaining behind, but was shamed by a military doctor into returning home to Japan first for medical treatment to his arm and to face his parents, which he did reluctantly.

Upon arriving home, Mizuki had initially planned to return to New Guinea; however, the occupation of Japan changed that. His injuries did little to help, nor did the fact that his older brother, an artillery officer, was convicted as a war criminal for having prisoners of war executed. After his return to Japan he worked at a variety of jobs including as a fish salesman and kamishibai artist.

In 1957, Mizuki released his debut work, Rocketman. He published numerous works afterwards, both dealing with the military and with yōkai. He has also written many books on both subjects, including an autobiography about his time on New Britain Island and a manga biography of Adolf Hitler. In 1991, he released a short work titled War and Japan published in The Sixth Grader, a popular edutainment magazine for young people, detailing the atrocities committed by the Japanese Army during their rampage in China and Korea and is narrated by Nezumi Otoko. The work serves as a powerful counterpoint to revisionist manga like the works of Yoshinori Kobayashi and by extension a way for Mizuki to express his anger at those responsible for all of Japan's victims. When not working in either field, he painted a number of subjects, though these works are not as well known as his literary ones which have made him a household name. In 2003, he returned to Rabaul to rekindle his friendship with the locals, who had named a road after him in his honor.

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