Auspol August: Half-baked enraged drivel

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Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Proper edit: NM, to drunk to think. Auspol :australia:

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Aug 1, 2014

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 12:43

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 07:05

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Bomb-Bunny posted:

I know it's days old by now, but I still can't get beyond Erica's "when jobs are scarce, you apply for more jobs!" line. Has he never actually applied for a job, out of the blue, off of an ad, ever? Not once in his long life? Is he just twirling towards freedom and throwing up along the way?

He either:
- Believes that "jobs are scarce" meant either high employment or high unemployment. Both situations which see a reduction in job ads.
- Believes that employers push ads out into the aether.
- Lives on the tears of the unemployed, learned from the ancient magicks of the Ruddock, which he did practices on the refugees.

I believe lord Abetz is directly conflating 'bootstraps' and 'job applications'.

Make a game out of it, whenever you realise that some old, rich, white guy has found a new metric for 'bootstraps' take a drink.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 01:28

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

If you are looking at a career in the chemistry/food/biotech/pharma/environmental areas, definitely talk to Chemskill.

They are a top-notch recruitment agency that actually care about the people they are lining up for jobs. Hiring through them is great (though it does cost a bit) and I've had two friends who bounced around for months until I got them to register, and then had job offers fall out of the sky in Tasmania of all places. Well, they had 2-3 offers each in a couple of months for solid spots, but in Tasmania that's pretty drat good.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 07:05

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Quantum Mechanic posted:

I just got preselected

Congratulations QM, that's awesome.

So is it a safe LNP seat, or will you have a fight on your hands?

# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 00:42

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Murodese posted:

It is extraordinary that a government agency would provide advice that is the truth, and it's even more amazing that the ALP would follow that advice (that is the truth)!!

You and I both know that unless the person giving you advice is making money from giving said advice, they can't be trusted.

Nothing helps remove bias and ensure truth like paying someone to tell you something - look at our proud, wonderful, and economically successful free private press.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 03:10

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Endman posted:

I've heard the argument made by lolbertarians a lot that tax evasion is fine because it's the government's fault for leaving holes in the system. It's nice to know we live in a world where it's so easy to rationalise a private company completely abandoning any kind of social contract and just playing the system for shits and giggles.

Where do you think private efficiency comes from? It is entirely based around skirting the line between legal letter and social contract.

They only worked 7 hours before the power went out? Lawyers say we don't have to pay them cause they worked less than 8 hours.*

*actually happened.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 00:50

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Endman posted:

They went on strike and built a barricade out of the corpses of management right?

...right?

Less than a week old. Has finally tipped the union sentiment from 'but I might lose my job for joining one of them' to 'how soon can we get in'.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 01:16

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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^^^^
ICAC entertaining. After Abbott's tweet(?) of 'This is Labor' about ICAC, it's turned out to have destroyed vast swathes of the NSW liberal party.

Ragingsheep posted:

Care to name this shithole company?

No, sorry. It's small, Tasmanian, and I suspect not long for this world. It might rear its head again on the mainland, though.

Hopefully the WHS, EPA, and local councils over there have their paddles in the water and don't let so much of the poo poo it currently gets away with slide.

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Aug 8, 2014

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 01:43

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Colour me surprised.

And also really pissed off.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 09:47

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Gough Suppressant posted:

And I swear to god if anyone tries to claim that picking 7-11 is motivated by racism rather than their appalling treatment of staff and prevalence I will rip this thread apart with my bare hands

How is picking 7-11 racist? What are you hiding? :crossarms:

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 11:52

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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PM Tones was on the radio this morning proclaiming that IS(is)'s current goal is to found no less than a terrorist nation.

I presume this means an organised society based solely on exportation of terror and importation of used munitions? I can't help but feel when you start throwing around 'terrorist nation' the term terrorist may have lost something of its edge.

I wonder if Abbot is genuinely bad enough to make his main card lose its shine.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 01:21

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Freudian Slip posted:

The last line of that article

quote:
�There are also job-rich and job-poor locations,� he said. �Take Sydney, for example. Where all the people are who want jobs is out in the west, where all the jobs are is in the east and you can�t get transport from the east to the west at 1am in the morning when you finish a shift. The reality is that we�ve got an incredibly gaping skills shortage that we now estimate will be about 85,000 by next year. If we don�t bring in people from overseas, we�re not going to be able to give jobs to local people.�

Just wow. The only way we can hire people on the other side of town is to hire other people. From another country.

This is truly a work of art. :golfclap:

# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 04:52

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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The new major water utility company in Tasmania is only advertising their jobs through Seek. Can't even email in the resume and cover letter.

:tasmania:

# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 12:44

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Did I miss this earlier?

Best new app of the year. Hope it works in a gulag!

# ¿ Aug 12, 2014 08:52

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Hockey uses the 09-10 ABS expenditure survey for his numbers, it's interesting to look at the more recent 2012 energy consumption survey.

(09-10 ABS expenditure survey, 6530.0, round to whole numbers)
('12 ABS energy consumption survey, 4670.0)

Hockey - "the higher the household income the more fuel taxes are paid by the household"

Also interesting to look at those relying on electricity + bottle gas for dwelling energy - the weekly petrol expenditure is over $40 in the bottom quintile. It's a stretch, but not completely unreasonable, to think that this represent more remote and rural areas.

For dwelling energy expenditure of 'Electricity, LPG/ bottled gas and other sources of household energy' the bottom quintile's vehicle fuel expenditure is $63 per week. That's more than the average top quintile's vehicle fuel expenditure ($60/wk) (across all dwelling energy sources).

# ¿ Aug 14, 2014 04:59

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

"The only Cabinet victim was Senator Arthur Sinodinos, now cooling his heels on the backbench pending the outcome of a corruption inquiry"

How many senators is a party expected to lose per year to corruption? (NSW state excepted :getin:

)

Also hahaha: "And after Abbott�s relentless and highly successful efforts as a negative Opposition leader, the Greens and Labor are repaying him in kind."
Combined the Greens and Labor aren't even registering on the partisan abuse meter Abbott needed.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 07:23

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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For context: He's a painfully outdated monarchist.

He actually reintroduced the Knights and Dames honour system earlier this year, to which everyone went 'da fuq?'. Including our last painfully monarchist conservative PM.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 00:18

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

So the moral is if you do ~~leap on a stranger~~ get in a fight, get at least 2 punches in. 3 to be safe. Oh, and film it? Better safe than sorry!

# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 08:37

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Ler posted:

Julie Asbestos Bishop is too dead inside for it to work, if you've ever been in her presence there's definitely a chill about.

e. I remember not too long ago when the turnbull leadership challenge poo poo was going on, some poll had Julie Bishop as 1% favourite for the leadership.

Counterpoint: Abbott.

Bishop will get the reigns, and we'll have grand scenes of the soulless bishop facing off against the courageless snorten, all the while the heartless coal-man looks on.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 01:00

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

You're annoyer that a journalist is too dumb to know that there were two French revolutions? What else annoys you? When water is wet? When the earth revolves around the sun?

Bolt's racism is a little annoying tbh

# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 04:39

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Ler posted:

Where do I start with this?

So loving angry.

Wow. Glad there's no bias in private media, just facts! Still, I guess one positive asylum article in a sea of bile was bound to happen. I guess these are the good ones. Not the ones who tried to rought the system by hurting themselves?

More tele:

quote:

JOE Hockey has defended his practice of claiming a $270-a-night taxpayer-funded travelling allowance to stay in a Canberra house majority-owned by his wife on the grounds that it is an entirely legitimate practice embraced by scores of Labor MPs.

The Treasurer has legitimately claimed $108,000 in travel allowance for 368 nights over the past four years including many nights for parliamentary sitting weeks where he has stayed at the Canberra house.

rest here (Tele!)

I almost feel sorry for the prick.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 22:34

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

quote:

destroy first world nations and lead them down a path of "government reliance and degeneracy"?

All this time I had thought nations relying on government a useful thing. :v:

# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 03:48

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Lid posted:

Was my idea for how to piss off Nickelback/everyone.

Holy poo poo, he has a face more punchable than Bolt's.

:frogout:

# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 06:21

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Mad Katter posted:

Morning AusPol, I though you all might like to start your day with a vile article written about the recent protests at the University of Adelaide, written by a guy who still hasn't managed to comprehend how misogyny works and can't see the problem in labeling all the protestors as "upper middle class".

His faux class consciousness makes me furious. A poorly written and poorly argued pile of poo poo.

http://m.indaily.com.au/opinion/2014/08/22/protest-crashes-through-irony-barrier/

Oh god, why did I click? :qq:

quote:

Can�t fault the rhyme or metre, though given most of these students will probably be corporate lawyers in a few years time, I�d probably suggest a short addendum:
�Education should be free,
Not just for the bourgeoisie;
Our parents pay our uni fee,
And we can�t see the irony!�

Though the comments have some good bits:

Robyn posted:

19 hours ago
Hey there Tom. I am one of the working class (brought up in Footscray, one of 8 Irish Catholic etc) who managed to go to uni (the first in the family) because Whitlam/ a labour government made it possible. My return contribution has been significant, I believe, in the decades since. I will now stop reading this newspaper because your article/analysis article was tedious, shallow crap.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 01:08

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Captain Pissweak posted:

He's honest when pressed with overwhelming evidence, you've got to give him that.

It's sad when that's actually refreshing compared to 'I don't recall'.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 01:47

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Ler posted:

New Roy Morgan

When the margin of error is several percent, why bother discussing 0.5% swings? It's as useful as reading tea leaves or guessing the footy score using TV static. Is there some greater plan here?

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 10:25

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

e: ^^^^^^^
Haha, who polishes their boots so often that that leaps to mind as a key domestic chore? :jerkbag:

T-1000 posted:

Alternative interpretation:
45% of the population are rusted on to the party they support and ICAC changes nothing.
14% lean Coalition and ICAC reinforces their existing biases against Labor, making them more likely to vote for the Coalition.
17% lean Labor and ICAC reinforces their existing biases against the Coalition, making them more likely to vote for Labor.
20% have been dissuaded from supporting either major party by ICAC.
4% don't know anything.

So ICAC only has any real influence on 20% of the population, the rest just barrack for their team or don't care. We'd need to know who they were planning to vote for before ICAC's revelations to make more meaningful inferences from this data.

That's a good way to view it, nice. I don't mind the idea that ICAC has made 1 in 5 people genuinely question who they vote for - that's got to be a fairly big result.

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Aug 25, 2014

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 12:06

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Every time I hear question time (or any other broadcast sitting) I've wondered how well members would rank if the amount of partisan attacks were compared to on-point discussion.

It's almost always 'this is what we think and we can't say why because the other side are a bunch of doo-doos and they left us a mess and mum won't clean it for us so no-one gets to play'. It seems worst with the LNP/ALP, but everyone joins in to some extent.

Are there any stats on this?
Any way to see which members are actually the least useful for discussing policy because they won't stop ranting about the other side?

Or is it just everyone, all partisan, all the time :smith:

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 06:32

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

open24hours posted:

Ban private hospitals, health insurance.

Please. Please, dear god please. Stop marching into the pits of private-only healthcare hell.

*breaks down sobbing*

Given how public healthcare is outperforming private in so many areas world wide, I'm not sure I'm more disappointed in our leaders for marching the wrong way or in the public for shrugging their shoulders and buying up private healthcare as soon as they can.

e: Let me know when you saddle up Cartoon, I'll take over when your voice gets hoarse.

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Aug 29, 2014

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 01:38

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Quantum Mechanic posted:

It's not about prices, though, it's about their refund policy.

Any chance of something new actually coming out of this?

Refunds are necessary when there's a risk of buying a dud from a production batch, but they seem a bit pointless when there's 0 risk of the item being defective.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 02:27

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Zenithe posted:

I'm pretty sure the required returns policy also covers products not being as described, not just being faulty. So in this instance, if a product on steam was said to have features it didn't include you should be able to return it.

Yeah fair point, guess I'll have to get my steam rage hat on (which I coincidentally purchased via steam).

Palmersaurus posted:

I've got a few older games re-released onto steam that straight wont work with modern setups.
The dev is usually long gone, so there's no chance of a patch.

Huh, well that does suck. Some much for the 0 risk theory!

(also get old stuff from GoG, what is this)

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 02:56

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Endman posted:

I think getting a refund for your videogames may be slightly less important than the transition to a user-pays medical system that could see you dead without insurance.

Woah, woah. The freemarket is clearly established in vija games, we must protect it.

Healthcare is still in socialist hell, though, so no point taking it seriously till it is dragged into the light.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 02:57

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Freudian Slip posted:

Nathan Tinkler takes the stand today (finally)

I have heard stories from my brother that one of things that Nathan did once he got rich was that he would not pay small contractors that had done work for him.

When they would ask to get paid, he would say nope take me to court and I will bury you in legal fees. This is for jobs only worth $5-25K. Nothing to him but enough to push a small business person into the red sometimes.

This is from a guy that used to work as an electrician.

I really hope that he does gaol time

I helped my dad work on a yacht in Newport a few years back while we were re-doing the deck. We cozied up to the boat yard so we could use their stuff and do most of the work ourselves.

While we were there we saw, and heard plenty of stories of, the local yacht owners getting the bill and going 'nah, don't think so'. Was not uncommon for them to get the yacht and bugger off without paying the 5 or 10k bill. 'Eh, see me in court if ya want it'.

It was a minority of the customers by all means, but just an astounding attitude to have.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 04:16

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Les Affaires posted:

Take them to court for the original amount, plus costs, plus interest and a punitive charge for wasting yours and everybody else's loving time in the process.

That's sorta how it usually went - but by the time court proceedings finally started they'd usually show up with the cheque and a 'no hard feelings, it's just business' grin. Was just a waste of everyone's time, to the point that small bills weren't worth chasing. I have no idea how assault charges didn't follow.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 04:45

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 07:05

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
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Les Affaires posted:

It's also worth mentioning that for every person that does this, there has to be tens of thousands more who live a normal life in order to sustain hers.

Unless she is living purely from fish caught by hand, weaving seaweed into clothing, and repairing her yacht using a cement made of faeces, urine and human hair, the materials she needs to live on that yacht can only come from a functioning worldwide economy.

Are you saying Waterworld won't come to be?

:colbert:

# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 06:00

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