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Regarding the psychoactive drugs laws that came up in the end of the last thread, does that clown not realise golden wattle contains DMT? It'd be pretty loving funny if they accidentally banned the national emblem.
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Write one to him pretending to be a rabid bible thumper and you'll probably get back their other email template that explains that marriage is for white, straight people and that the LNP firmly believes that gays are icky and have no place in decent society.
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"Because at least she had a job! She worked hard, paid into the system and it would be unfair to pull the rug underneath her. If Granny has a pokie addiction, she is in need of treatment by professionals, not judgement by latte-sipping champagne socialists."
Also she probably votes LNP
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People seem to be incapable of understanding marginal tax rates.
As if facts and a proper understanding of them matter in todays world.
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quote:Rampant visa fraud and migration crime involving people flying into Australia are going unchecked while the government focuses on stopping boats, according to secret government files detailing entrenched Immigration Department failings.
Hundreds of pages of leaked confidential departmental documents obtained by Fairfax Media reveal that Australia's national security is being compromised by wide-scale visa rorting and migration rackets operating with impunity, including some with links to terrorism or organised crime.
The confidential Immigration Department files reveal repeated internal warnings over several years that widespread visa fraud is "business as usual yet remains largely untreated" because the department's investigation and enforcement capacity has collapsed.
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In all seriousness though, the nats are probably worried that if they split from the coalition, it might mean people examine who they are voting for for the first time, and upon doing so realise that the nationals have not done poo poo for farmers in 50 years.
Most farmers probably wouldn't vote for them, it's the rednecks that infest country towns that are most likely to vote for the Nats.
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Enjoy
quote:Sometimes the banal aspects of life are just too much to ignore. When the gods conspire to load them up into a short time frame and throw them at you, it can seem overwhelming. I feel that way now about so much of our media coverage of politics.
The recent reporting on Joe Hockey is just one example. Joe apparently enjoys the occasional cigar. There’s no crime in that. Somewhere footage got out showing he and the Finance Minister Mathias Cormann each enjoying a great big smelly cigar. Since then I have seen numerous cartoons and heard commentary about the cigar smoking. Joe has been portrayed as the guy from the top end of town indulging himself.
Stereotyping and ridicule pass as substitutes for informed debate.
Bill Shorten joined in, calling Joe an ‘‘arrogant cigar-chomping Treasurer’’. Never mind that Bob Hawke had a real taste for cigars. Shorten knows that because, not that long ago, Hawke was enjoying a cigar in the Opposition Leader’s courtyard with Shorten present.
Former Prime Minister Bob Hawke smokes tees off, and smokes a cigar, in 2006.
Former Labor prime minister Bob Hawke tees off, with cigar, in 2006. Photo: Glen McCurtayne
This barrage of negative media has been allowed to come about only because Joe has let people see he has the occasional cigar. Ho hum. Apparently he should, because he is Treasurer, never have anything out of the ordinary. The proposition is ludicrous. And banal rubbish. Of course it is all just flotsam and jetsam on the ocean of media information, but it is there on the surface and the media intend us to see it.
If you think I am kidding myself, consider a reversal of the stereotyping on others. How about users of illegal drugs as an example. If someone were to stereotype them all as useless losers who sponge off society on welfare, break into our homes and steal from us, there would be an outcry. You see, apparently it is OK to engage in stereotyping of a senior conservative politician, but not of others.
There’s a free kick on offer, and plenty of the lazy journalists take it. Hollow infotainment tries to get away with looking like sensible media comment. Stereotyping and ridicule pass as substitutes for informed debate. It adds nothing to the substantive political discourse.
Master manipulator: Clive Palmer gets the spotlight, but does this contribute to the substance of policy?
Master manipulator: Clive Palmer gets the spotlight, but does this contribute to the substance of policy? Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
Another example is the media reaction to Joe’s recent comment to the effect that people with lower incomes don’t drive as far and thus would not be affected as much by a small increase in the fuel excise. In many cases, in an absolute sense, that would be true, although there would of course be exceptions. It would be equally true to say that, in some cases, lower-income earners would be affected more in a relative sense. Yet again, amid all the information we could be looking at, one remark is brought to the surface and has a spotlight trained on it.
In the discussion on this from so many journalists we see little about the overall merit or otherwise of raising the excise on fuel. Do we want fuel to get relatively cheaper and cheaper so the so-called rich, who in absolute terms may well consume more petrol, get a bigger benefit? Even that is not the question.
The real issue we face is: Can we keep going as as we are? Can we keep spending at current rates and have a sustainable economy? Do we just hope things will pick up, or do we start to put our house in order? If we don’t want to collect more money one way, how would we like to collect it?
Much of the difficulties Joe faces are a consequence of the Senate with which he has to deal. We elected some people who in their wildest dreams never expected to get elected. We didn’t expect it either. They had no coherent set of principles that would guide their decision making. These senators seem very much focused on simple political posturing and bargaining. Now Joe has to deal with them in order to get some common sense. Making sense of that isn’t easy.
What do the independents and Palmer United Party members want for the long term in Australia? Do they think we should future-proof the economy against another global financial crisis, or not?
Just how did Clive Palmer achieve such prominence? He’s a rich man, but so what. There have been and still are rich people in Parliament. That alone is no claim to fame. There are three factors that have helped Clive along the way.
First, his party always had a prospect, even likelihood, of holding the balance of power in the Senate. That alone makes you of interest. Some in the media actively built his profile.
Second, sadly there was precious little scrutiny of what he stood for. Being a potential thorn in Tony Abbott’s side made him the darling of good portions of the media.
Third, Clive is a master at manipulating the media, at getting the spotlight – and like moths to the flame, they fly. All of this contributes to coverage of the froth and bubble of politics, not the substance of policy.
Of course, in the great conversation of life that is politics there is room for discussion about people, their personalities, attitudes and quirks. How we say things can matter as much as what we say; it can unintentionally cause offence and it can affect what people think about us and our ideas. That’s no doubt why Joe has apologised for any offence caused. We just need to remember that these things are about the game of politics but they are not the main game, not the substance of government.
The Hockey budget seeks to put Australia’s house back in order. It seeks to do that in a measured way over quite a few years. Sure there are, as there always will be, some tough decisions. Personally, I am in favour of future-proofing us from the next GFC, and very much in favour of stopping the selfish ‘‘spend now, make our kids pay’’ policies.
Some will pillory Joe over his cigars or something he said. I think we should offer him some praise for recognising that we need to clean up Labor’s mess.
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No, he's saying, vote for me sports fans.
Except he doesn't realise that there are 17 teams worth of BigFooty posters who would literally shed tears of blood if the blackest day in sport wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Maybe he's going for the Essendon and Cronulla vote or something.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Reality check and all that.
It honestly boggles my mind how people can suggest that the provision of critical infrastructure should be left in the hands of the free market. It's like tossing your newborn baby into a moshpit, assuming that when it comes out the other side it'll have an excellent education, six figure salary and leadership aspirations.
I doubt they actually think it will result in better outcomes for everyone, they just say it will because "support policy XYZ because it will make me and my mates really rich and gently caress you all over in the process" doesn't go over nearly so well with the voters.
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Call me a horrible person, but maybe we should just not do anything, let climate change kill a bunch of people and have it spark the necessary change in a manner akin to a malthusian crisis.
This is probably what will end up happening anyway, but ethically speaking we should at least try and stop a bunch of people dying from preventable climate change.
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Burger Foundry was drippy as gently caress and quite honestly average, especially at $20 for a combo deal.
I am back in Sydney now so I guess I need to go to Marys to wash away the sad.
Most eateries I've been to in Adelaide were pretty average, then the locals gush over places like Appellation like the east coast doesn't have Michelin star restaurants or something.
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Turns out Abbott isn't even any good at being a blue blooded snob
quote:Prime Minister Tony Abbott's Canberra and Sydney wine cellars have been lambasted as tragic, bewildering, pedestrian and a little on the cheap side at a time when Australia advertises itself as a world-leading restaurant.
Public servants from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet say Mr Abbott has had access to more than 170 bottles worth $4700 for official functions he can offer the nation's most prestigious and powerful visitors.
Melbourne wine critic Jeremy Oliver lampooned the selections by saying stores at Kirribilli House, The Lodge and another 61 bottles held by PM&C's Canberra headquarters in the Andrew Fisher building looked as if they were curated by someone "planted" by the anti-alcohol lobby.
James Halliday says the government's list covers many regions and varieties without fear or favour.
James Halliday says the government's list covers many regions and varieties without fear or favour. Photo: Graham Tidy
"I’m a patriotic Australian and these lists sadden me," said Mr Oliver, an industry critic for 30 years and author of an Australian wine guide written for the nation's fastest-growing export market, China.
"With only a little effort we could do so much better and give our leaders a chance to wow their guests."
His view differed from those of fellow industry observer and 2015 Australian Wine Companion author James Halliday who said the list was a breath of fresh air and covered many regions and varieties without fear or favour.
Tourism Australia is using food and wine to attract international visitors to the country as part of its Restaurant Australia campaign. The wine sector was trying shake off an economic hangover after a recent grape glut and a high Australian dollar pushing down export volumes and Mr Oliver said he struggled to find wines on the list that showed where the Australian industry was heading.
The most expensive in Mr Abbott's cellars in the latest list published in the past month and dated May 31 – nine bottles of the Canberra Federation Red Magnum 2000 at $86.36 each – was described by Mr Oliver as a dud, which was "sadly listed in volume".
"This wine, which was sadly produced with federal support, never lived up to its billing, or even close to its billing," he said.
The cheapest were five bottles of $12.89 Yarrabank Vintage Cuvee 2004.
The average cost of a bottle from Mr Abbott's cellars was about $26. Prime Ministers have previously attempted to show world leaders the best of an Australian industry now boasting more than 2400 wineries, but because taxpayers' money is involved it can be a sensitive topic. A furore erupted in 2001 when dozens of cases of up-market wine chosen by a wine consultant went missing on John Howard's watch.
Mr Oliver said the wines at The Lodge this year were "a random assortment that ranges between the embarrassing, the more than acceptable, the tragic and the bewildering".
"Poor vintages of reasonable wines are more than adequately represented. There are far too many poorly chosen reds from the 2011 vintage."
He described the Kirribilli House cellar as pedestrian but praised the "delicious" Petaluma Merlot 2004.
"The only Riesling listed is from Margaret River, where it should be classified as a weed. There are far too many 2011 reds and only two wines of genuine excellence in the ILR Semillons from Brokenwood. There is enough good wine here for a small lunch.
"And why our PM should be forced to foist upon high-level guests such wines as tired and faded rosés, moscatos, flabby old Chardonnays such as the Petaluma 2007, I’ll never understand."
The Prime Minister's wine list was compiled by PM&C in response to a question on notice published in the past month. PM&C said Mr Abbott had not used a wine consultant.
Canberra District Wine Industry Association President John Leyshon said all of Mr Abbott's wines were great Australian drops but added the average price of those chosen could have been higher.
Mr Leyshon also said it was a disgrace that just seven bottles – less than 3 per cent of the cellar – came from the Canberra district, and offered to consult with the Prime Minister.
"If it were my cellar, I would also include some wines from Orange, Mudgee, Hilltops and one or two of the smaller areas of NSW," Mr Leyshon said.
"There are some outstanding wines coming from these regions now."
Prime Minister's Dining Room cellar (The Lodge) as at May 31, 2014
1x $19.90 Grant Burge Pinot Noir Chardonnay Barossa Valley
3x $36.80 Arras Brut Elite sparkling Tasmania
2x $24.50 Mount Horrocks Riesling 2005
1x $14.50 Miranda Golden Botrytis 2002
3 x $18.45 Kalleske Shiraz VP 2007 Barossa Valley
4 x $15.90 Scarborough Late Harvest Semillon 2008
1 x $14.17 O’Leary Walker Sauvignon Blanc 2008
1 x $18.90 Cape Mentelle Sauvignon Blanc Semillon 2012
2 x $20.23 Devil’s Lair ‘The Hidden Cave’ Margaret River Sauvignon Blanc Semillon 2012
1 x $34.54 Moorilla Muse Chardonnay (TAS) 2011
2 x $33.63 Shaw and Smith M3 Chardonnay 2012
1 x $31.72 Devil’s Lair Margaret River Chardonnay 2011
1 x $33.62 Devil’s Lair Margaret River Chardonnay 2012
1 x $34.99 Petalumla Chardonnay 2013 Piccadilly Valley
5 x $34.19 Penfolds Bin 311 Chardonnay 2013 Tumbarumba
1 x $22.71 Parish of Gruyere Chardonnay Yarra Valley 2013
2 x $11.75 Canberra Federation Red 2000 (1998 Cabernet Franc)
9 x $86.36 Canberra Federation Red Magnum 2000 (1999 Cabernet and Shiraz blend – Centenary of Federation 1901-2001)
5 x $18.18 Charles Melton Rose of Virginia 2008
8 x $17.81 Charles Melton Rose of Virginia 2009
1 x $12.64 Schobers Estate Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
1 x $32.00 Ten Minutes By Tractor Pinot Noir 2011
2 x $34.20 Ben Glaetzer Bishop Shiraz 2012
1 x $40.39 Penfolds Bin 28 Kalima Shiraz 2004
1 x $31.80 St Hallett Blackwell Shiraz Barossa 2011
1 x $30.59 Clonakilla 2012 Hilltops Shiraz
3 x $29.08 Majella Coonawarra 2011 Cabernet Sauvignon
5 x $25.44 Jack Reidy Clonakilla 2013 Shiraz
7 x $27.26 Penfolds Bin 138 Shiraz, Grenache, Mataro 2012
76 bottles at The Lodge costing $2437.27
Prime Minister's cellar - Kirribilli House
14 x $18.18 Croser Non-Vintage
1 x $13.99 Innocent Bystander Moscato 2010
1 x $22.72 Scarborough Late Harvest Semillon 2008
4 x $20.90 Cookoothama Botrytis Semillon 2008
2 x $14.51 Sandalford Margaret River Riesling 2002
2 x $31.81 Brokenwood ILR Semillon 2004
2 x $30.32 Brokenwood ILR Semillon 2005
11 x $22.08 Scarborough Yellow label Chardonnay 2011
8 x $19.70 Voyager Sauvignon Blanc Semillon 2012
3 x $12.88 Ninth Island Sauvignon Blanc 2012
4 x $23.48 Toolangi Chardonnay 2010
9 x $27.27 Toolangi Denton Chardonnay 2009
1 x $16.72 Ninth Island Pinot Noir 2011
9 x $18.17 Victoria Park Pinot Noir 2011
2 x $28.35 Coldstream Hills Pinot Noir 2011
5 x $13.63 Fox Gordon 8 Uncles Shiraz 2011
5 x $25.00 Toolangi Pinot Noir 2011
3 x $10 Johnny Q Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
8 x $13.63 Dandelion Vineyards Fleurieu Cabernet Sauvignon 2011
4 x $25.45 Coldstream Hills Pinot Noir 2012
2 x $27.26 St Hallett Blackwell Shiraz 2011
3 x $25.45Toolangi Estate Shiraz 2008
6 x $29.08 Penfolds Bin 28 Kalimna Shiraz 2011
95 bottles at $2282.87
Kirribilli House – Ceremonial and Hospitality Branch
3 x $34.51 Croser 1998
4 x $33.97 Petaluma Chardonnay 2007
4 x $43.11Petaluma Merlot 2004
3 x $33.72 Turkey Flats Shiraz 2006
14 bottles costing $513.01
Andrew Fisher Building – Ceremonial and Hospitality Branch
3 x $28.05 Yarrabank Vintage Cuvee 2005
2 x $26.15 Yarrabank Vintage Cuvee 2006
5 x $12.89 Yarrabank Vintage Cuvee 2004
7 x $20.99 Two Hands Brilliant Disguise Moscato 2009 Barossa Valley SA
3 x $29.08 Margan Botrytis 2008 Botrytis Semillon Basket Pressed Hunter Valley NSW
5 x $23.54 Shaw and Smith M3 Chardonnay 2008 Adelaide Hills SA
6 x $24.17Franklin Estate Riesling 2002 WA
2 x $25.45 Seppelt Drumborg Riesling 2009 VIC
2 x $41.99 Cullen Sauvignon Blanc 2009 Margaret River WA
1 x $27.26 Clonakilla Viognier 2006 Canberra District ACT
5 x $14.54Penfolds Bin 311 Chardonnay 2008 Tumbarumba Adelaide Hills SA
Penfolds Thomas Hyland Chardonnay 2010 Cool
11 x $24.80 Climate Adelaide Hills SA
5 x $13.99 Wedge Tail Estate Pinot Noir 2005
2 x $16.32 Pirramimma Stocks Hill Shiraz 2006 McLaren Vale
2 x $15.88 Brands Laira Cabernet Merlot 2009 Coonawarra
61 bottles at $1339.78
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They really hate it when you chuck a handful of marbles under them. At least thats what an anti-Vietnam war protest veteran told me once.
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I don't get it? Abbott looking stressed?
He looks like Hitler
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Votes are at 5077 - percentage is exactly the same.
Daaaamn.
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Speaking to Adelaide radio on Friday, Mr Abbott expressed his reluctance to have a double dissolution election if key budget measures continue to be blocked by the Senate.
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Any company with 5% child molesters would be down in instant, let alone one that new about allegations and decided to transfer people around and keep the police out of it.
Oh, and offering payouts on the condition of non-disclosure.
Unless they were an important part of the life of some very influential people, then it would take years to do anything about it. See also asbestos, smoking, climate change etc etc.
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So with all the talk from the LNP about raising taxes and gutting uni funding if their budget doesn't get passed, do they actually have any way to raise taxes and gut uni funding if they don't have control of the senate?
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Isn't he the massive fundy who was behind workchoices?
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Would the fuckheads at the Oz be dumb enough to go for a change of premier this close to the election?
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So centerlink just rejected my austudy application because apparently my masters course doesn't meet their criteria (http://www.industry.gov.au/HigherEducation/StudentSupport/Documents/DIISRTEGuidelines.pdf). Does anyone have a list of courses offered that would meet their criteria that I could transfer into at the end of semester or any other loophole I could use?
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Technically, you can't work as a clinical psych without that (or a doctorate) and a registrar program (where you do actually get paid work, usually). Likewise for any other psych specialisation.
It also covers some architecture and accounting and teaching masters streams, it seems.
And it seems you can get austudy while doing such things as your MAsters in Theology or Divinity at some christian university. Good to see the government is doing what it can to support the training of the workforce of the future
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Who said the free market couldn't do public transport?
quote:A new "private club" commuter bus service will allow Melbourne's white-collar professionals to shun the unsavoury aspects of public transport but the business' founder has denied it will create a commuter class divide.
Next month the start-up company SuitJet will begin ferrying professionals in and out of the CBD every morning and evening.
After all, as one potential customer said at Tuesday's launch, "You never know who you're going to be sitting next to on the train".
The company has a fleet of three Mercedes-Benz customised coaches named after Melbourne Cup winning horses but could quickly expand that to 20 within a number of weeks, using surplus Dysons Bus Services vehicles.
The buses will leave from select suburban hotel car parks and sporting grounds and arrive at dropoff points in the CBD and Docklands, with the first pick-up locations to be driven by customer demand.
Early signs indicate the business may find its biggest market in areas let down by yawning underinvestment in the state's public transport infrastructure.
SuitJet co-founder Darren Heiberg said the highest number of registrations of interest had come from Mernda in the outer north and Caroline Springs in the outer west.
Both these postcodes are without a railway station and although one has been pledged for Caroline Springs by 2016, no funding commitment has been made for the Mernda rail extension.
Whittlesea mayor Mary Lalios said "residents shouldn't have to rely on private transport".
Public Transport Users Association president Tony Morton said a lot of outer suburb residents could not access good-quality public transport but they might not necessarily want to travel into the city or be able to pay for a private fare.
A return ticket on SuitJet will cost $30, more than double the maximum myki fee but Mr Heiberg denied the service would create a class divide. The former Jetstar executive said he was already seriously considering changing the name of the company to remove the "suit" reference.
"I was quite nervous about calling it SuitJet. The demographic is white-collar workers, everyone from the receptionist to the junior accountant through to the middle management," he said.
Mr Heiberg said the express "business class" service would mean professionals would be able to spend an hour answering their emails in a productive environment instead of being stuck behind the wheel.
"That's an hour of work you don't have to do after having dinner with the kids and a cup of tea with your wife," he said.
"Public transport is too successful in that demand exceeds supply, and that's leading to people seeking new alternatives."
Glen Waverley events manager Sara Hale has registered for SuitJet. She said she often could not get a seat on public transport and only this week she had to deal with a fellow commuter who was "rude and abrupt".
She wished she could travel to work in "more style and comfort".
In San Franciscoprivate buses for Google employees have been targeted by protesters who say they get in the way of municipal buses.
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It's like a bus, but for dickheads!
But seriously there aren't many (any) people living in Mernda or Caroline Springs who would be able to afford a $30/day bus fare
Someone should buy a bunch of Suitjet memberships and hand them out to homeless people.
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Tony has a massive hard on for war as he thinks it is the only way to hide their budget blues and downturn in the polls, but those evil Greens and Independents won't allow him! Save him Mr Murdoch!
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