D_I posted:

I don't see how that can be percieved as "thugish" unless you already came to that conclusion beforehand.

Segmentation Fault posted:

Apparently the SWAT teams are loudly chanting WE HAVE CONTROL, WE KEEP YOU SAFE, WE ARE YOUR HOPE.

Zeitgueist posted:

There's tactics but you're not going to see people posting them outside of activists groups. Mostly, though, not really.

The police have superior gear, numbers, and mobility.

unwantedplatypus posted:

How much of America will honestly believe the tale of violent looters and thugs?

Neo Duckberg posted:

I am white

Slo-Tek posted:

I was pondering on this today. What useful can I, white guy from 3 exurbs East, do? I don't vote in STL county, the cellphone video of police brutality seems to be well in hand with the locals, and I'm not sure rolling down West Florissant distributing bottled water to protesters from the back of my Prius would be taken in good part.

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Forty-eight dollars for a pack of swisher sweets? Is there anyone left who doesn't believe this is a hit-piece?

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

So have we had some sort of collective schizophrenia where the looting and burning came after the police were called out.

Jarmak posted:

I think it wouldn't be that hard to cover 35 feet in the time it took the cop to get out of the car and resume shooting

Neo Duckberg posted:

In the surveillance camera pictures it shows someone with a hat on but in the shooting pictures he doesn't have a hat?

swiss_army_chainsaw posted:

What about these allegations that the person on the security tape might not even be Michael Brown?

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

Physical evidence. Also witness testimony (and I wont even touch the "theyre telling the same story" because you are in crazyland) is the lowest form of evidence for anything.

Arkane posted:

I still disagree: if the crime occurred, Brown was still fleeing from that crime as he still had the items in his possession (and one could basically put up a map showing the store's location and Brown's destination showing him en route).

yoyomama posted:

So I found this image:


Can anyone confirm this is true and/or the right locations? Because if so, if the timing to the tweets about Brown's death match what's in the report, how could he have gotten all the way from where the robbery happened to where he was killed? The timing between the two events is supposed to be really close.

Also, I'm hearing from other people that the store shown in the tapes isn't the same location as the store that is listed as robbed in the report. Still trying to find more info on that.

Samurai Sanders posted:

I'm not a smoker or anything but I figured you just used cigarette rolling papers, like I see for sale all around, for smoking pot.

PuTTY riot posted:

I've seen people smoke swishers, black and milds, etc that they didn't split open before, and also who twists a blunt and puts that lovely tobacco back into it? the cigarillo paper is the only tobacco that should be in a blunt.

Tigren posted:

Coke can? Back in my day, we smoked out of an apple and ate it too!

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Get Thomas Knight off the camera and put Black Tony Stark back on.

Amos Moses posted:

Finding this a lot on facebook now.



I don't get the logic. I understand character assassination but are people stupid enough to fall for that? He was still unarmed when he was shot.. what does this picture change?

dinoputz posted:

I heard KSDK mention earlier that "a private autopsy" of Mike Brown released findings. It was 6 shots, twice in the head, but none from behind, contradicting eyewitness acounts.

D_I posted:

My boss is an ex-cop and he is a legit racist shithead, but he has tons of stories of finding people cracked out with starving babies in the house. Or going to a crime scene and finding a baby shot in the head. If it is your job to deal with stuff like that it is gonna gently caress your head.

D_I posted:

Good luck finding anyone else that wants to do the job.

FAT SLAMPIG posted:

Are they phone recording or do they have an actual camera?

Nelson Mandingo posted:

W-what? Could you elaborate some?

OwlBot 2000 posted:

Why are they siding with the cops?

Magres posted:

Yes why would you ever give your child a hands on lesson in American civics? Why ever teach them to stand up for what is right?

(not to mention what if you want to go protest and have a kid you can't leave at home?)

Radbot posted:

Right, and in that case the majority of the comments will be pro-cop, just as they were in that story. There are plenty of pro-cop stories, too - try finding those around here. They got a shitload of mileage out of that NYPD cop giving the homeless dude shoes.

I'll say this, too: if the cops no-knock raided me, I own a gun, and I'd likely be pointing it at the intruders who haven't identified themselves. Should I be killed, fknlo?

Naet posted:

I absolutely agree, but I was referring more to the potential for being a target of police violence (tear gas, rubber bullets, etc.) which has been a risk since last week. I would take my children to a demonstration, but I also respect the debate behind whether or not it's proper.*



*assuming the debate isn't accusatory or based in racism, classism, etc.

Naet posted:

Plenty of black people have challenged the participation of children in the Civil Rights movement precisely because white supremacist violence is real. This isn't a hypothetical situation. It's one thing to theorize that leaving your children behind is self-victimization; it's another to know for a fact that you risk danger via participation. Many African Americans chose not to participate in demonstrations throughout the past hundred years of activism for fear of violence. That's an incredibly difficult dilemma, and one that intensifies when you're talking about children who may have limited agency. I understand your argument, but it's too idealized.

And I'll concede from here on. No need to derail further.

Bullfrog posted:

"Who do we want?" "Darren Wilson"
"How do we want him?" "Dead"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJrG2AMghw

loving NBPP. How the gently caress will this help anything?

Von Sloneker posted:

Fox News just played that NBPP vid during their poo poo show The Five complete with subtitles that said "DEAD - IN JAIL - INDICTED." Weirdly, after that, the host said, "I'm not even gonna comment on the New Black Panthers because they don't deserve the recognition" or something, then went back to complaining about Al Sharpton.

towelieban posted:

Molotov cocktails of peace
And no, that's not a straw

towelieban posted:

Unlike you, I don't immediately see the headline, pick my side, then dig the moat and build the fort.
Stop pidgeonholing someone who doesn't agree with your side of the story. This thread has turned into the equivalent of Saddam's regime where all must think the same. Everyone either agrees with eachother than Cops summarily executed an upstanding citizen with their hands up 35 feet away, all of Ferguson PD are trigger-happy racist pricks, the robbery is a smear campaign and might not have been him, cops just shot tear gas and rubber bullets at the protesting children, no one protesting was violent, people brought molotov cocktails only for 'show and tell', and know one committed crimes, but if they did, they definitely weren't from Ferguson. Anyone that doesn't agree with this is squashed mercilessly and painted a racist.
Stop splitting the discussion into with us or with them.

Reason posted:

I know this is from a billion pages back now and probably been done to death, but the whole finding marijuana in his system thing is absolutely hilarious when he probably wasn't high considering no one smokes pot then goes and does any sort of physical thing like run from cops or steal cigars. Chances are he had smoked some pot at some point but probably was not high when he was shot.

Arrgytehpirate posted:

An actually not awfully written conservative view

http://www.redstate.com/2014/08/18/ferguson-missouri-fog-partisanship-ideology/

quote:

If you want an illustration what that ideological lens is, consider the question of “black on black crime”. Ta Nehisi Coates at The Atlantic debunks, here and here, the notion that African-Americans don’t care about violent crime committed by black people against each other. As Coates notes, if you talk to people at the grassroots level or search Google for local news stories, you find quite a lot of examples of black folks – especially those living in high-crime urban areas – who are protesting and organizing and putting themselves on the line against the forces that make their neighborhoods unsafe.

What Coates does not ask is why you have to dig through Google to find this stuff. The more interesting question is why the very people on Coates’ side of the partisan and ideological aisle, the Democratic politicians and progressive writers and activists, don’t trumpet these stories the way they trumpet a story like the shooting of Michael Brown.

towelieban posted:

If I was a racist don't you think the internet would be the place to let my racist hate out?

blakangel posted:

The outside agitators among the protesters were firing live rounds last night.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Did the fact that this kid was unarmed when he was shot 6 times change over the past couple days? Because if not then it doesn't matter if he was a Baby Murdering Commie-Nazi Jihadist Crusader unless the cop was psychic and knew this. So what's the debate again?

SectumSempra posted:

CelticPredator posted:

There's this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK7_AcGUVTg