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Bunleigh posted:This story is making me sick to my stomach. I can't believe what I'm seeing and reading.
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Obdicut posted:Yeah, they're used extensively for fire-fighting stuff but I also haven't seen a law enforcement one before.
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Aug 12, 2014 22:58
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mastershakeman posted:Wait, there was a tank there? Not like a MRAP but an actual M1A1?
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Aug 12, 2014 23:08
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Every single borderline case on my Facebook feed is all about this no-fly zone right now. They just drink this poo poo down, no need to verify. I haven't seen commentary like this since Hurricane Katrina. If you want to read all about DHS's secret plan to bomb/gas/napalm a bunch of gun nuts just Google "NOTAM 4/1687"
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Chinatown posted:I would love for someone to fly a drone around the scene.
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Fried Chicken posted:Even if, for some reason, you wanted to defend the actions of Ferguson police, you have the problem that by policing standards they are handling things wrong and going with over the top militarism before there was cause for it quote:Federal Aviation Administration instituted a no-fly zone over Ferguson through Aug. 18, meaning that police helicopters can operate in the area, but media helicopters cannot. Someone should point out to these people that that this is officially the 2,599th "No Fly Zone" issued by the FAA in 2014. The online media reporting on this has essentially gone full Freep on that one particular total non-issue instead of anything else. It's bizarre.
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Zeitgueist posted:Probably they are using it as an example of how over-the-top the response of the Fergeson police has been, along with the vehicles and equipment. Most people aren't familiar with police being able to declare no-fly zones in places they've already been hostile to the media. I know I wasn't, and it's not like I'm new to "gently caress the Police" threads. I can't remember if it was in this thread or the ACAB one but I pointed out earlier that this exact same thing happened during the Bundy Ranch shenanigans and was apparently ignored by everyone outside the Inforwars sphere.
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Magres posted:Like that's walking distance if you do it with a friend and have a couple hours to blow. Especially in a city where the walk is actually interesting.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Its time to leave, whiteboy. This ain't your time to speak. This is your time to listen.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:10
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Your Sledgehammer posted:What's wrong with what you quoted, exactly? Makes perfect sense to me. I'm not up on my Tumblr though so maybe protests are cultural appropriation now.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:16
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New Division posted:Yeah it's ultimately self-defeating and foolish, but what do you expect. Anger is rarely rational. Edit: They're called the cops! Edit #2: Nonsense posted:Agreed they're called the St. Louis County Police.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Quoting for posterity. I'm unsure whether, upon reflection, you'll be able to understand how patronizing your attitude comes off.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:43
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Nonsense posted:A lot of people actively choose not to give a gently caress about what's happening in their community Most people don't like dog poo poo on their rugs and generally don't expect to get jumped by their own neighbors.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:47
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My Imaginary GF posted:My position is that the protestors don't need a white knight to speak for them. The police action already speaks that attitude loudly enough.
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My Imaginary GF posted:And he never denied he was there previously to hand out his ideologically-tinged literature.
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Aug 14, 2014 06:05
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Miltank posted:the people who beat up their white neighbor were racists imo. They were bigots, or assholes, and definitely douchebags, but not racists.
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parthenocarpy posted:any other links to this? site is getting hammered right now, can`t see any video
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My Imaginary GF posted:A friend texted me a photo of a white, mid-20s kid handing out 'Revolutionary Marxist Party USA' lit. I asked him several times, directly, if it was him. I did not see any answer other than avoidance, therefore I presumed he was the one handing out the lit.
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Teddybear posted:Have there been RICO charges filed against a police department before?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Partly this, yeah. The county hates it because its bad press. They don't want to put their house in order. Hell, they only retreated tonight after Nixon barked in. Certainly some backroom dealing going on right now. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Cesar Cedeno posted:They probably love this poo poo, why not. Making tons of money for a power-trip vacation where they can do pretty much anything and get away with it. Grondoth posted:Do they have to pay for munitions, too?
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skaboomizzy posted:If only he'd had a corgi instead. No one can be mad at a corgi.
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on the left posted:Collective punishment is cool and desirable when done to groups we don't like!
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hcreight posted:How exactly did this guy get elected in the first place?
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Angry Diplomat posted:Probably libel, something something false accusations, something something invasion of privacy, something something interfering with a police investigation
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Magres posted:There comes a point where you say gently caress it and appeal to moderates and your own base.
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hobbesmaster posted:Clearly Obama's anger translator, Eric Holder will take care of all this. Problem solved!
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SirKibbles posted:We have decided your movement needs a revolutionary push (look at some of the faces) lady on the left of stereotypical D&D revolutionary with glasses is gently caress the police lady.
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LogisticEarth posted:I heard somewhere that the officer who shot Brown never actually called in the incident, or really delayed the call in? Is that true?
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Rhesus Pieces posted:A sane country would realize that we aren't in the late 1980s/early 1990s crack wars anymore
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SedanChair posted:The country's not sane, they want young black men to be suppressed at the cost of their rights.
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Cuntpunch posted:But he was unarmed and, even if he was charging, the officer had an obligation to use nonlethal force. This is really all going to come down to the shot that killed Michael Brown. If he died of a contact range gunshot to the torso or a long range shot to the back will make all the difference in court. chitoryu12 posted:I think the Zimmerman case officially quashed that. It's now completely legitimate to use lethal force on someone unarmed as long as you think that they can kill or cripple you with their bare hands or the ground under your feet.
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chitoryu12 posted:While the precedent existed, it wasn't until the Trayvon Martin incident that the reality of it was officially endorsed in court: if you believe that an unarmed person is going to kill you with his bare hands, you can kill him. It was always specified that there had to be some kind of disparity in force (such as a large size and/or strength difference between the attacker and victim), but now all you need to do is claim to be in "fear for your life" and there's almost no way to quash it. We've reached the point where it's entirely conceivable that an unarmed person walking toward a police officer looking angry could probably be shot dead and the cop would get away with it. NovemberMike posted:or if someone that committed a felony is going to get away then lethal force is usually considered reasonable. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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NovemberMike posted:You're nitpicking. Yes, it isn't actually true for all felonies because the concept of a felony has expanded to things like tax evasion or stealing a car but it still holds true for what most people would think of as a felony (murder/rape/etc) NovemberMike posted:To be more accurate, if the officer reasonably believes that the suspect is an immediate threat of violence to the community, and the suspect is fleeing, then the officer can use lethal force to keep him from escaping.
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NovemberMike posted:That's loving great. What does this have to do with a plain language explanation of a legal concept? hcreight posted:And he called out potential presidential candidates like Jeb Bush and Hillary for staying silent. MSNBC and CNN are covering it.
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NovemberMike posted:You're thinking of "reasonable suspicion", not "reasonable belief".
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Amos Moses posted:I don't get the logic. I understand character assassination but are people stupid enough to fall for that? He was still unarmed when he was shot.. what does this picture change?
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Amos Moses posted:Kind of. A situation got violent because people made bad decisions. The whole thing turned into a three ring circus. People chose to be lovely and it resulted in bad noise. The public is generally unwilling to accept that though. They want the story to have a plot. A good guy and a bad guy. Therefor it becomes very important to people once they've picked a side that their guy be the good guy. Because if he isn't that means they supported the bad guy, and that makes them bad guys. So in the absence of conclusive facts they go to irrelevant character assassination because bad guys are always bad all the time and therefor whoever has the most bad guy pictures on Facebook must be the bad guy.
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fknlo posted:I've never understood how when you admit to killing someone you aren't immediately taken into custody while the investigation takes place. I don't care if it's the most blatant case of self defense ever, until the investigation comes to this conclusion you should be in custody. Just having the shooter would have killed a lot of the tension in this and the Trayvon Martin incident.
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