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This is Kojima, he's at his best when the plot is dumb and batshit insane.
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I'm thinking with all the talk of separate realities and doors, Guillermo might be leading us into a Lovecraftian inter-dimensional alien beings.
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Aug 20, 2014 14:41
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It sounds like a conspiracy theorist rant, and that sort of character would be fun in a Silent Hill but I wouldn't trust his words as objective truth anymore than I would the words of the cult people in the other games.
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Aug 20, 2014 14:56
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I always hated how the cultists were, you know, real. I first thought they were all nutjobs that figured heavily into events but didn't actually know gently caress all about what was happening, so I thought it was kinda lame that the games gave them a measure of authority by understanding what's going on.
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Aug 20, 2014 15:15
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I always hated how the cultists were, you know, real. I first thought they were all nutjobs that figured heavily into events but didn't actually know gently caress all about what was happening, so I thought it was kinda lame that the games gave them a measure of authority by understanding what's going on.
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Aug 20, 2014 15:53
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Forgall posted:I've always liked the idea that all the Alessa/Samael/God stuff was manifestation born from the cultists' fanatical collective belief in how the world was supposed to work, and they aren't any more real than Maria and other stuff SH created for James. This is basically the canonical explanation-it's why the cult's efforts tend to fail, and why different chapters/versions of the cult had conflicting beliefs. The cults are a threat because to some extent they've weaponized their beliefs and have tried to understand and exploit how the town works, but the truth is they're delusional, and every bit as much victims of Silent Hill's influence as everyone else in the game. (also, Homecoming's cult is terrible.)
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Aug 20, 2014 16:30
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Yea I enjoy that no matter what the cult's plan it turns against them. I see it as a constant take on the folly of man messing with things he has no understanding of, and those things destroying him.
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Aug 20, 2014 16:40
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Not the shot I was looking for, but Kojima seems to have taken some inspiration from REC This from P.T-  and this from REC  (spoilered for people who don't like creepy ghost ladies) The old woman standing still in the corridor was the first thing that came to mind. Not that I'm complaining, REC is great.
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Aug 20, 2014 17:28
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Asema posted:Yeah He moves his mouth all the time but if you watch him talk in the bathroom it's in sync and he stops moving his mouth when he finishes talking. It's him telling you it all Video of this event. Also here's a wiggling, talking, bloody paper bag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVvmiWq7M1U
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Aug 20, 2014 19:02
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Mama, a short film that Guillermo del Toro is adapted into a feature, looks an awful lot like P.T. Cause I was curious where the image on the left in this picture came from. And now I'm in a horror movie mood. Gonna start with Mama tonight, anyone else have recommendations for a scary movie?
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Aug 20, 2014 19:14
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Mama, a short film that Guillermo del Toro is adapted into a feature, looks an awful lot like P.T. Don't want the Mama feature length. It's not that good. The short was good though. In Absentia is pretty good and sort of fits the PT mood.
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Aug 20, 2014 19:22
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acksplode posted:If you use R3 to peer past the bathroom door toward the sink, Lisa appears from inside and shuts it. Then the exit door opens. No, it happens past that. I'll play through it again to try to pinpoint exactly when it occurs, but there's a hallway before "PRESS X TO RUIN PICTURE" where she gets me every time, for some reason. The radio is playing during this segment, and I'm pretty sure the bathroom is either shut or ajar. I can't remember if it's before or after I get the flashlight... e: It might be before, because I seem to recall the lights being on when this happens?
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Aug 21, 2014 08:59
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BlackFrost posted:No, it happens past that. I'll play through it again to try to pinpoint exactly when it occurs, but there's a hallway before "PRESS X TO RUIN PICTURE" where she gets me every time, for some reason. The radio is playing during this segment, and I'm pretty sure the bathroom is either shut or ajar. I can't remember if it's before or after I get the flashlight... I believe that you have to die to her at least once to progress
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Aug 21, 2014 09:04
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BlackFrost posted:No, it happens past that. I'll play through it again to try to pinpoint exactly when it occurs, but there's a hallway before "PRESS X TO RUIN PICTURE" where she gets me every time, for some reason. The radio is playing during this segment, and I'm pretty sure the bathroom is either shut or ajar. I can't remember if it's before or after I get the flashlight... Oh poo poo, that part, yeah. The door has nothing to do with that one, I don't think. I got stuck at that part and then discovered you could press X on the picture, which then unlocked the door for me. I think maybe you also need to listen to the entire radio message, and some people have lucked out and just not gotten ghost-mugged while they were listening to it. Before I get jumped I usually hear LIsa right next to me, so I think I might be walking into her when that happens. Keep an ear out and try not to move to much is the only way I can suggest to try to avoid her.
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Aug 21, 2014 09:07
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I guess in a couple hours we'll get to watch the actress who plays Quiet in MGSV play PT: https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/502361061958221825 https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/502361177578426368
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Aug 21, 2014 09:17
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'Thank you for screaming' 
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Aug 21, 2014 09:39
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Ularg posted:I believe that you have to die to her at least once to progress You don't. I deleted my save and had my gf play through and she never died or even looked at the ghost until the ending sequence with the clock ringing, somehow.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:43
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Harrow posted:If it actually is a hint about the plot of Silent Hills and not just more P.T. wackiness, it might be more of a Lovecraftian kind of thing. Not little gray men aliens, but unknowable horrors from beyond the stars. Forgall posted:I've always liked the idea that all the Alessa/Samael/God stuff was manifestation born from the cultists' fanatical collective belief in how the world was supposed to work, and they aren't any more real than Maria and other stuff SH created for James.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:56
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Ugh, I tried again to get the ending, but still can't get it to trigger. I dunno what I'm doing wrong, it feels. Following baby-giggles to get a phone to ring, based on unknown criteria, is so annoying. Like, it's repeatable enough to get the first baby-laugh, with moving like ten steps or whatever. I've got a microphone plugged in, too. But I only got the second one once, and then I moved when my controller was vibrating, so I guess I screwed that up? How is anybody supposed to get this to happen normally, blah. Maybe I'll just watch it on youtube
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Aug 22, 2014 00:55
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So I noticed that the ESRB rating lists Suggestive Themes. Uh, what suggestive themes were there? Did they misinterpret some of ghost lady's creepy moans? It doesn't have to be sexual. Ghosts just fuckin' moan, man. It's what they do. 
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Aug 22, 2014 01:16
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I love the thought of Silent Hill done through Kojima's batshit insane filter, as long as we don't get three-hour cutscenes I'm cool with it.
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Aug 22, 2014 01:33
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liquidypoo posted:So I noticed that the ESRB rating lists Suggestive Themes. Uh, what suggestive themes were there? Did they misinterpret some of ghost lady's creepy moans? It doesn't have to be sexual. Ghosts just fuckin' moan, man. It's what they do. There are suggestions of murder but you never actually see anyone die.
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Aug 22, 2014 02:44
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Also bleeding crotch.
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Aug 22, 2014 02:47
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Dreadwroth posted:I love the thought of Silent Hill done through Kojima's batshit insane filter, as long as we don't get three-hour cutscenes I'm cool with it.
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Aug 22, 2014 02:48
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Accordion Man posted:Del Toro is probably writing the game so I don't think that will happen. That's probably the weirdest thing about this team-up, given that del Toro has gone on record saying he hates cutscenes and Kojima is Kojima.
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Aug 22, 2014 02:49
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Both Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes are pretty low on cutscenes outside of their intros, and both feature codec conversations delivered while playing, so it's not really his thing any more. It was hilarious to see Kojima talk about cutscenes like "Ugh stop doing this poo poo in games guys I think we're all tired of it now" though.
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Aug 22, 2014 03:01
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timeandtide posted:Both Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes are pretty low on cutscenes outside of their intros, and both feature codec conversations delivered while playing, so it's not really his thing any more. Pretty sure that the cut-scenes in Ground Zero are shorter because Kiefer Sutherland's time is a lot more expensive than David Hayter's time.
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Aug 22, 2014 03:20
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I guess now that he doesn't have to dig himself out of the narrative hole he made with MGS2 helps.
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Aug 22, 2014 03:34
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Pretty sure that the cut-scenes in Ground Zero are shorter because Kiefer Sutherland's time is a lot more expensive than David Hayter's time. It's really getting tiring to hear Kojima's joke repeated like it's a behind-the-scenes production detail.
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Aug 22, 2014 03:36
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liquidypoo posted:So I noticed that the ESRB rating lists Suggestive Themes. Uh, what suggestive themes were there? Did they misinterpret some of ghost lady's creepy moans? It doesn't have to be sexual. Ghosts just fuckin' moan, man. It's what they do. So uh; When the ghost lady appears behind you to eat you, you can hear the sound of a zipper going down and then eating motions that a lot of the neckbeard community states as "She eats your dick"
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Aug 22, 2014 03:55
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I'm pretty sure it's more "she rips your dick off"
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Aug 22, 2014 04:39
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Tortoiseontour figured out how to consistently get the second baby laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTTCfZe8Yc I can confirm this works. (I'm @Konjuro) This is straight-up conspiracy theory logic, but it works.
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Aug 22, 2014 06:20
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I have a screen of her standing in the hallway and her legs create a shadow all the way down to her feet on the floor. Ohh. Return to innocence. Thanks for the info! (and I'm afraid of my hallways again) For the record, the playthrough I watched was a chick who was terrified and I had a blast. We both screamed at the same time every time.
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Aug 22, 2014 06:36
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Hungry Computer posted:Tortoiseontour figured out how to consistently get the second baby laugh:
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P.T. actually reminds me of the movie Cube in some ways: limited environments, horror through repetition, and the overwhelming fear that, as hosed up as it is, this place operates on some kind of logic, just not the kind humans are comfortable with*. And if you do start understanding it, is that a worthwhile trade? It's rare to see surreal horror done well in any medium, but I think this is the first time I've seen it work well in a game. *Tes, they do eventually work out the pattern in Cube, but at first, progress seems utterly random and more prone to lethal punishment for unknown transgressions than 'Action A produces Response B'
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Hungry Computer posted:Tortoiseontour figured out how to consistently get the second baby laugh: This neogaf poster figured out a fast 100% guaranteed method to get all three laughs http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126115733&postcount=6415 posted:So in summary to beat this 100% of the time all you need to do is: The sound is maybe something one can replicate by voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5qbcRAXVk
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Aug 22, 2014 12:44
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Dreadwroth posted:I love the thought of Silent Hill done through Kojima's batshit insane filter, as long as we don't get three-hour cutscenes I'm cool with it. They got Norman Reedus so you're gonna be looking at him long enough to validify the paycheck and all the facial mocap. acksplode posted:It's really getting tiring to hear Kojima's joke repeated like it's a behind-the-scenes production detail. I didn't know he made a joke about it, but it's almost certainly not a joke.
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Harrow posted:If it actually is a hint about the plot of Silent Hills and not just more P.T. wackiness, it might be more of a Lovecraftian kind of thing. Not little gray men aliens, but unknowable horrors from beyond the stars. The whole trailer is a send up to different elements of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't more than a reference to something that happened in the games.
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Aug 22, 2014 15:31
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Maybe it's a clue to getting the UFO ending in the release game. Gotta find all of the Swedish radio signals! Or something like that.
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