X-Wing: Let's Fly Some Wangs

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Huxley: Oct 10, 2012; Grimey Drawer

So the Rebel conversion kit will just include all the ships cards and upgrades and bases already developed for the new X65 and the new Y wing. But there's no way they're putting in like, new ships and dials for every single Rebel ship in 1.0.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:26

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bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.

Force powers work on charges.

Darth Vader will have 3 charges

Ezra will have 1.

Think of them as a focus token, or used to power force upgrades.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:27

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Some Numbers posted:

I can't wait for Strobe to check in and see all this.

I'm a week late, but that just means I'm in time to cover both new X-wing upgrades and 2.0 with :gizz:

# ? May 1, 2018 18:27

Ringo Star Get: Sep 18, 2006; JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

gently caress yes! I�m at work so I have no idea what�s fully said but glad to hear they�re investing into the game with stuff like this.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:27

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.

Huxley posted:

So the Rebel conversion kit will just include all the ships cards and upgrades and bases already developed for the new X65 and the new Y wing. But there's no way they're putting in like, new ships and dials for every single Rebel ship in 1.0.

Then why is there an a-wing and b-wing on the box?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:27

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Rebels: Faction identity is support ships and effects.

Imperial: Swarm playstyle, group buffs if you stay in formation

Scum: Dirty tricks, everyone for themselves.

It would be so good if they stuck with this

# ? May 1, 2018 18:27

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Huxley posted:

So the Rebel conversion kit will just include all the ships cards and upgrades and bases already developed for the new X65 and the new Y wing. But there's no way they're putting in like, new ships and dials for every single Rebel ship in 1.0.

Where are you guys getting this stuff?

That's not what they said. They said they're for every single released 1.0 released ship AND the first wave expansions.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:28

Huxley: Oct 10, 2012; Grimey Drawer

bunnyofdoom posted:

Then why is there an a-wing and b-wing on the box?

This is a good question. I hope I'm wrong!

ConfusedUs posted:

Where are you guys getting this stuff?

That's not what they said. They said they're for every single released 1.0 released ship AND the first wave expansions.

I didn't hear them say the last part and was guessing.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:28

Chemmy: Feb 4, 2001

I'm super excited about this. Link anything you can in here for those of us who can't watch a video at work.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:29

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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They'll be making balance changes to point costs, abilities, even ship slots via the app.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:30

Devlan Mud: Apr 10, 2006; I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

I�m not paying $290 plus dollars so i can use the stuff I�ve already purchased.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:31

long-ass nips Diane: Dec 13, 2010; Breathe.

Devlan Mud posted:

I�m not paying $290 plus dollars so i can use the stuff I�ve already purchased.

saaaaaaaame

# ? May 1, 2018 18:31

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

How are they handling upgrade cards? Are there new versions of cards in the upgrade boxes? Is it all in the app?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:31

Devlan Mud: Apr 10, 2006; I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Funzo posted:

How are they handling upgrade cards? Are there new versions of cards in the upgrade boxes? Is it all in the app?

They couldn�t sell you 1+ fifty dollar box per faction if the cards were all useable in the app.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:33

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Devlan Mud posted:

I�m not paying $290 plus dollars so i can use the stuff I�ve already purchased.

So...don't. Buy just the new stuff (core + new expansions). You don't have to buy the backwards compatibility packs unless you want to.

Or drop it entirely.

Honestly I can't think of a better way to do this. You don't have to buy new ships. They're giving you (an unknown number of) components that allow you to play every single ship you already own in a bigass box for $50 per faction.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:33

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Have they mentioned anything about objective play?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:34

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Funzo posted:

How are they handling upgrade cards? Are there new versions of cards in the upgrade boxes? Is it all in the app?

There probably won't be a 1:1 equivalent for many/most of the upgrade cards. And with new mechanics there's probably a bunch they no longer need.

They haven't said it directly, but I expect there to be a vastly simplified upgrade list.

Edit: Hell I expect some pilots won't make it either. Ability to play every existing ships in the conversion kits doesn't mean that literally everything will be translated 1 to 1.

ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 1, 2018

# ? May 1, 2018 18:34

LanceKing2200: Mar 27, 2007; Brilliant!!

Article is up:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/1/x-wing-second-edition/

# ? May 1, 2018 18:39

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/x-wing-second-edition/

How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

3 � A-wing
2 � ARC-170
2 � Auzituck Gunship
2 � B-wing
2 � E-wing
2 � Ghost
2 � HWK-290
2 � K-wing
2 � Millennium Falcon
2 � Phantom I
2 � Phantom II
2 � Sabine�s TIE Fighter
2 � U-wing
2 � X-wing
2 � Y-wing
2 � YT-2400
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 � Alpha-class Star Wing
3 � Inquisitor�s TIE
2 � Lambda-class Shuttle
2 � TIE Advanced
3 � TIE Aggressor
3 � TIE Bomber
2 � TIE Defender
4 � TIE Fighter
3 � TIE Interceptor
2 � TIE Phantom
2 � TIE Punisher
3 � TIE Striker
3 � VT-49 Decimator

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 � Hound�s Tooth
2 � HWK-290
2 � IG-2000
3 � Kihraxz Fighter
2 � Kimogila Fighter
4 � M3-A Interceptor
2 � Mist Hunter
3 � Protectorate Starfighter
2 � Punishing One
3 � Quadjumper
2 � Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 � Shadow Caster
2 � Slave I
2 � StarViper
2 � Y-wing
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

# ? May 1, 2018 18:42

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Need a new core set even if you buy the conversion kits.

There is a line down the middle of templates to help you align with dots on the bases. That's really nice.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:42

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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canyoneer posted:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/x-wing-second-edition/

How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

3 � A-wing
2 � ARC-170
2 � Auzituck Gunship
2 � B-wing
2 � E-wing
2 � Ghost
2 � HWK-290
2 � K-wing
2 � Millennium Falcon
2 � Phantom I
2 � Phantom II
2 � Sabine�s TIE Fighter
2 � U-wing
2 � X-wing
2 � Y-wing
2 � YT-2400
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 � Alpha-class Star Wing
3 � Inquisitor�s TIE
2 � Lambda-class Shuttle
2 � TIE Advanced
3 � TIE Aggressor
3 � TIE Bomber
2 � TIE Defender
4 � TIE Fighter
3 � TIE Interceptor
2 � TIE Phantom
2 � TIE Punisher
3 � TIE Striker
3 � VT-49 Decimator

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 � Hound�s Tooth
2 � HWK-290
2 � IG-2000
3 � Kihraxz Fighter
2 � Kimogila Fighter
4 � M3-A Interceptor
2 � Mist Hunter
3 � Protectorate Starfighter
2 � Punishing One
3 � Quadjumper
2 � Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 � Shadow Caster
2 � Slave I
2 � StarViper
2 � Y-wing
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

Wow that's really generous.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:43

long-ass nips Diane: Dec 13, 2010; Breathe.

That's actually better than I was expecting for the conversion kits.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:43

canyonero: Aug 3, 2006

Confused's 200 point system is in.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:44

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.

Hey, it's the fabled card only expansions!

# ? May 1, 2018 18:44

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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And they just dropped that lists are 200 points. Same size game (number of ships), but greater granularity

# ? May 1, 2018 18:44

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

The T-65 in the article has Blue maneuvers at 1 and 2 banks and straights and native Tallon Rolls.

This is the best. :allears:

# ? May 1, 2018 18:44

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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canyonero posted:

Confused's 200 point system is in.

I'm a goddamned prophet

# ? May 1, 2018 18:45

Iceclaw: Nov 4, 2009; Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

Oh looksie, thread suddendly jumped in postcount, did someone post a fun homebrew or... :aaa:

# ? May 1, 2018 18:45

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.

Strobe posted:

The T-65 in the article has Blue maneuvers at 1 and 2 banks and straights and native Tallon Rolls.

This is the best.

Dude, our x-wangs are back!

Also, looks like PS got a big revamp. Luke is PS5, whileas Iden Versio is a 4.

Also, what is that lightning bolt token?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:46

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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The beautiful lion-maned man is Frank Brooks. I had no idea how he looked before today lol.

There are now "ship abilities" which apply to all ships of that type. Would cover stuff like "adaptive ailerons," where all ships of that type just have that ability. Not all ships have ship abilities. These are in addition to pilot abilities.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:47

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

quote:

Do I have to use the squad builder app?

While the X-Wing squad builder is best for players who want full control over their pilots and upgrades, you can also play a match using the Quick Build cards included in the Core Set. This mode of play lets you easily create a squadron using predefined selections. Each Quick Build card consists of a ship card, a number of upgrade cards, and a threat level from one to five. To play a match using Quick Build cards, players must agree to a particular threat level. Then, both players build their squadron by choosing a combination of Quick Build options that add up to that threat level.

For freeform building and tournament play, however, the X-Wing squad builder app is an essential part of the X-Wing Second Edition experience.

Hmm.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:48

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

canyoneer posted:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/x-wing-second-edition/

How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

3 – A-wing
2 – ARC-170
2 – Auzituck Gunship
2 – B-wing
2 – E-wing
2 – Ghost
2 – HWK-290
2 – K-wing
2 – Millennium Falcon
2 – Phantom I
2 – Phantom II
2 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
2 – U-wing
2 – X-wing
2 – Y-wing
2 – YT-2400
4 – Z-95 Headhunter

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 – Alpha-class Star Wing
3 – Inquisitor’s TIE
2 – Lambda-class Shuttle
2 – TIE Advanced
3 – TIE Aggressor
3 – TIE Bomber
2 – TIE Defender
4 – TIE Fighter
3 – TIE Interceptor
2 – TIE Phantom
2 – TIE Punisher
3 – TIE Striker
3 – VT-49 Decimator

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 – Hound’s Tooth
2 – HWK-290
2 – IG-2000
3 – Kihraxz Fighter
2 – Kimogila Fighter
4 – M3-A Interceptor
2 – Mist Hunter
3 – Protectorate Starfighter
2 – Punishing One
3 – Quadjumper
2 – Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 – Shadow Caster
2 – Slave I
2 – StarViper
2 – Y-wing
4 – Z-95 Headhunter

And two more for the Force Awakens factions?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:48

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Y-wings have 2-speed blues and what looks like a red 1-speed.... reverse?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:49

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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alg posted:

And two more for the Force Awakens factions?

With Wave 2, yes.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:49

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

It sounds like upgrades and upgrade costs will all be handled with the app.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:50

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

App having upgrade cards means you probably need the copy of the physical card anyway, but the app would handle all the points costs. Of course, while this would curtail accidental cheating by honest people, I can only imagine the fun list cheating shenanigans :v:

# ? May 1, 2018 18:50

lazerus06: May 19, 2004

canyoneer posted:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/x-wing-second-edition/

How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

3 � A-wing
2 � ARC-170
2 � Auzituck Gunship
2 � B-wing
2 � E-wing
2 � Ghost
2 � HWK-290
2 � K-wing
2 � Millennium Falcon
2 � Phantom I
2 � Phantom II
2 � Sabine�s TIE Fighter
2 � U-wing
2 � X-wing
2 � Y-wing
2 � YT-2400
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 � Alpha-class Star Wing
3 � Inquisitor�s TIE
2 � Lambda-class Shuttle
2 � TIE Advanced
3 � TIE Aggressor
3 � TIE Bomber
2 � TIE Defender
4 � TIE Fighter
3 � TIE Interceptor
2 � TIE Phantom
2 � TIE Punisher
3 � TIE Striker
3 � VT-49 Decimator

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 � Hound�s Tooth
2 � HWK-290
2 � IG-2000
3 � Kihraxz Fighter
2 � Kimogila Fighter
4 � M3-A Interceptor
2 � Mist Hunter
3 � Protectorate Starfighter
2 � Punishing One
3 � Quadjumper
2 � Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 � Shadow Caster
2 � Slave I
2 � StarViper
2 � Y-wing
4 � Z-95 Headhunter

What about First Order and Resistance?

# ? May 1, 2018 18:51

LanceKing2200: Mar 27, 2007; Brilliant!!

Funzo posted:

It sounds like upgrades and upgrade costs will all be handled with the app.

Yeah the article mentions "seasons" of organized play, and even having special rules for particular events.

# ? May 1, 2018 18:51

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

WRAITH SQUADRON PILOT SPOTTED :siren:

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 07:27

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

That's amazing that they are introducing "charges" or force tokens or whatever for pilot abilities. Allows greater granularity for when a pilot ability can activate, rather than the current breakdown of always on/once per round/once per game. Like Iden's card has an ability that spends a lightning token for it.

Also, there's now a range zero!

# ? May 1, 2018 18:51

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