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Some Numbers posted:I don't have infinite money Famous last words.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 22:20 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:02 |
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So, played a few casual games at FLGS tonight. I've been fiddling with Imp. Aces mostly so switched things up and ran a couple pancake lists. Oicunn + 2xTIE/fo was not as fun as I was hoping. Trying to take advantage of Oicunn's ramming damage (and Daredevil to proc Oicunn's ability) worked really well on the initial approach, but trying to bring Oicunn around for another pass was an exercise in futility, especially with how the obstacles ended up being placed. I used the 2x TIE's as a mini swarm, mostly to practice formation flying. After Oicunn rammed Poe couple times, the two TIE's blew him to poo poo. The second game I played I used Dash + HLC with Poe + R2D2. However, the other guy brought Kenkirk and Redline. The guy I played said he liked Mangler Cannon on Dash better than HLC, but he said I did a good job maneuvering Dash, though. His Kenkirk build seemed way better than my crappy Oicunn build, and I think I will copy it, but maybe run Vader or Fel with it instead of Redline. Man, this game is fun.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2016 06:15 |
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So, I realize Fat Dash lists are kind of a solved problem at this point, but in looking ahead at Store Champ tournaments coming up in the next couple months and knowing my own playstyle, Fat Dash + Rebel Ace is probably what I'm going to do best with. But I'm not sure what ace to put with him, right now. My current list is regen Poe, but I'm actually thinking I should pick up an E-wing and get Corran Horn. OTOH, Stressbot seems like a prominent local meta, so based on what you guys have been saying I'm starting to lean towards something more tolerant of stress. When is the Ghost going to come out, because I'd switch to that in a heartbeat.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 16:20 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Super Dash shouldn't have much trouble staying out of the stresshog's arc, and Corran can outrun it. Excellent.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 17:21 |
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That's my understanding
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2016 05:51 |
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TaurusTorus posted:Sadly I don't think Oicunn's ability procs off of daredevil/boost, only the actual maneuver from your dial. Per the forums, it procs anytime you "perform" a maneuver. Using Daredevil, you perform the maneuver (which is unsuccessful because you are hopefully bumping someone) and then Oicunn does a second point of damage. I ran a similar list (Oicunn + 2xTIE/fo) last week. The issue I had is that on the initial approach, Oicunn performed as expected and I bumped an X-wing, did the 2 pts of damage, and used the TIE/fo's (Epsilon Leader and Wingman that remove stress) to totally blow the X-wing away. After that, I had a heck of a time bringing Oicunn back around for a follow-up run. The Rebel aces are wily enough to stay well out of the way, and Oicunn is not agile enough to get back on them. That's why I'm switching to a Kenkirk list.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 17:57 |
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The Imperial Raider comes with a branching mini-campaign that I think tracks whether or not the Raider is damaged or squadrons are destroyed or something. I haven't dug into it yet, but it seems pretty cool. I only have Imp Raider for epic ships, so no idea if this is in the other epic expansions.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 18:14 |
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More rebelschat: The more they develop Kanan the more I see him as a lost padawan, and less the jedi master he appeared to be at the beginning of the series, which is a good thing. Ezra is annoying, but like you said, teenagers are pretty annoying IRL, so there you go.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 20:45 |
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Yeah, I know they're super evil but I love TIE interceptors THE MOST. They're like the TIE fighter's angry wolverine cousin.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 03:44 |
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kingcom posted:Peter Cushing turning out to be a turbo nerd is the best so I think thats valid. Elaborate, please.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 03:44 |
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Prophecy120 posted:I've noticed very little Ello Asty love in XXY or XXX builds. White Talon Rolls sound amazing combined with other T-70s, looping all over the goddamn board staying out of firing arcs. Are the other X-wing aces just that much better that no one uses Ello? Are you talking in general or just this thread? I mean, Strobe has basically refined T-65 X-wing lists down to their pure essence. Wes is really good, though, and so is Wedge. I'd have a hard time taking Ello over either of them for a tournament list. For casual lists (which I play 90% of the time) Ello Asty is pretty cool, I think.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 16:54 |
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So, we're basically looking at an edge case where a bit of base is in-arc but at range 3, and the closer part of the base (which is out of arc) is Range 2. I don't care how you measure it because Autothrusters apply in either case. If it's the case that the base-to-base range is in-arc then it's a moot point anyway because base-to-base is same as attack range. No question there. So, I must be missing something because I don't see anything about this "ruling" that makes me change the way I handle Autothrusters. e:^^^It shouldn't matter because Autothrusters is beyond Range 2 OR out-of-arc Finster Dexter fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 21, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 18:28 |
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I can't look at the diagram above because my work proxy blocks imgur. But I'm proceeding from the knowledge that firing arc doesn't change just because your primary attack or secondary attack let's you fire outside of that arc. e: wait, are you guys saying that autothrusters don't kick in when getting shot by a turret?? I don't get how that is possible based on how Autothrusters is worded (procs off the ship's firing arc) Finster Dexter fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jan 21, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 18:37 |
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Pulled up the diagram on my phone. That's exactly what I was picturing. I'm just saying why I disagree with the ruling. ofc I will be bringing this up when I run my Dash+Corran list at Store Championship in March.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 18:45 |
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e: nvm I'm a doof
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 16:16 |
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Weirdneal posted:Went 2-0 in my first ever league last night against a guy running K-Wings with TLTs and bombs (not the best list, I know). I was Imp; first game 2x Bounty Hunter and a Doomshuttle, I stripped the shields on both of his K-Wings on the first pass due to some lucky die rolling and Vader and was able to focus down Miranda to prevent regen schenigans. Second game I swapped the Firesprays for Soontir and Carnor Jax, he kept the same list, and even though Jax lost SD on the first pass (rolled 5 blanks with an evade token against 2 hits from TLT), I was able to stay out of arc with Soontir all game until the end when I flew through an asteroid intentionally and took a damage to setup a Range 1 kill shot. What is a Doomshuttle? Like a Fat Lambda?
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 17:42 |
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Weirdneal posted:Went 2-0 in my first ever league last night against a guy running K-Wings with TLTs and bombs (not the best list, I know). I was Imp; first game 2x Bounty Hunter and a Doomshuttle, I stripped the shields on both of his K-Wings on the first pass due to some lucky die rolling and Vader and was able to focus down Miranda to prevent regen schenigans. Second game I swapped the Firesprays for Soontir and Carnor Jax, he kept the same list, and even though Jax lost SD on the first pass (rolled 5 blanks with an evade token against 2 hits from TLT), I was able to stay out of arc with Soontir all game until the end when I flew through an asteroid intentionally and took a damage to setup a Range 1 kill shot. Could you post this list? I'm interested to see what you did for upgrades on the Firesprays.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 19:09 |
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Chill la Chill posted:I should be able to go down again to see ya guys in regionals this summer. Where are some good bbq places down there? Do you have to live in that region to enter that regional? One of the local FLGS in my midwestern city here is applying for a regional, and I'm wondering I can go to my local regional AND the Minneapolis regional. We could have a little mini goon-wang meetup. (or is that weird)
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 21:38 |
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enigmahfc posted:So, in Vassal is there anyway to guarantee your opponent isn't changing their dial while it is flipped over while I am doing my moves? Like, if my PS1 ship does a straight 3, and my opponent knows their PS9 ship will bump it when he moves, what is to stop him from rotating his dial to a different maneuver without me knowing it? Or is the answer simply, "don't play with shitheads"? I immediately flip my dial over and show the other person then put the dial on the table and execute the maneuver. If someone is picking up a dial and fiddling with it for a second before showing you... maybe start watching him more closely.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 21:40 |
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pbpancho posted:And to the guy thinking of attending the MN regional, if you do, let me know! I won't be playing (employees can't play anything higher than Store Champs), but I'll likely be judging or something. kk, will do
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 23:21 |
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Tekopo posted:Tried Vassary, Tractor, TIE/D, TIE Mk2, VI and four PS1 FOs against Vader with VI, ATC, Omega leader with juke/comms and two other FO aces with crack shot. That sounds pretty awesome. Noob formation flying question: Do you fly Vessery in formation with everyone else?
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 23:25 |
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Koopa Kid posted:Honestly a friend and I were really put off by the initial rule book scenario of no actions, no stress, no asteroids etc. It just felt tedious. It wasn't until we tried the more fleshed out ruleset a few weeks later that we started getting into it. Again, it all depends on the audience. I've demoed X-wing to a few different groups, and the basic game is perfect for people that don't have boardgamegeek accounts. It highlights the core elements of the game (maneuvering with templates, rolling dice to attack/defend). For gaming newbies, they all get sucked in because those core elements are really well done, and removing all the advanced stuff let's new players get sucked into flying really nice looking plastic space ships. They get a lot more time to just look at those cute little guys as opposed to staring at upgrade cards trying to figure out what the gently caress Push The Limit does and why is it 3 points and what's an action and what's a stress token. If you're a more grizzled strategy board game tryhard, then I'd break out a couple 100 pt squads and dig into it.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 18:17 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:This is like the only time something happens between missing your shots and the gunner attacking? It depends on what the cards say, really. Bossk and Gunner happen at the exact same time, so the acting player gets to choose the order. If there were other cards that happened "If you perform an attack that does not hit" then you could use those abilities instead. As I understand it, it's not about "something happening between". It's about executing two card abilities that are simultaneous, and you get to pick the order they go off. If you wanted to, you could use Gunner's ability and THEN use Bossk's ability.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 18:33 |
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Per the rules as written, if two ships are touching bases they cannot shoot at each other.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 19:26 |
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Strobe posted:It could actually triple tap, if you use gunner on your second shot of the round. Dengar procs on defense though. Granted, you can still Bossk/Gunner off it, but it requires you defend against an attack in your firing arc, so it's a bit more situational.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 20:40 |
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Koopa Kid posted:Don't be a dick man, people not getting thrilled by endlessly pinwheeling in space and comparing random dice results in a no-obstacles no-token game doesn't make them "try-hards" with BGG accounts (whatever you even think that means). Nobody's saying anything about running 100-point demos off the bat. Whoa, cool off. That line wasn't an insult. I'm as groggy as anyone and consider myself as tryhard as anyone when it comes to strategy games. Yikes, man. Wasn't trying to offend, but you're being awfully sensitive, there.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 20:41 |
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Otisburg posted:I'd love* for Defenders to be a whole thing, but on paper it still feels pretty steeply priced. Paying Poe Dameron prices for a guy with the same HP and PWV, only PS1 with no pilot ability is rough. Once Veterans drops I'll put them on the table and take the Pepsi challenge for sure, though. I'm thinking about switching to this list, if only because I can turn chunks of Decimator into critical damage when I get angry at someone's green dice (which I inevitably do).
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 14:20 |
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The Gate posted:Yeah, Vader would fit Moff Jerjerrod better almost, what with his propensity to kill people who screw up. Hey now, Moff Jerjerrod got the death star operational, as planned. The plan was to be able to super laser the rebel fleet, and they did. He wasn't a giant screw-up like Ozzel.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 19:16 |
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Chemmy posted:Played my first league game ever last night, I ran Poe with BB8, PTL and Autothrusters, Red Ace with R2-D2 and Autothrusters, and a Gold Sq. with BTL, TLT and R3-A2. Conceded?!?!?! That's COLLUSION! CHEATER j/k I read an angry ffg forum post about people having very strong opinions about someone deciding a game with a coinflip back in 2014. Ended up with the person involved "taking full responsibility" and getting banned from locals/regionals this season. It felt kinda weird to care that much about the whole situation, but maybe there is something I don't get. The forum thread was started (I think) by that xwingtactics tumblr guy.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 18:42 |
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ConfusedUs posted:I had a really good time, but didn't do as well as I'd hoped to do. Final record was 2 wins, 3 losses. In the games vs. the fat turrent + escort, is there anything they could've done to make the defeats at least somewhat less decisive? Reason I ask is that I'm planning to run Dash+Corran in the next few local tournaments.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 08:17 |
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Kill_Discussion posted:X-wing is by far the largest Vassal community. Weeknights during prime time there can be upwards of 50 players these days due to the X-Wing Vassal league that just kicked off. You can usually find someone looking to play within 5-10 mins. Would it be dumb to set up a little goon Vassal night or have a little mini-tournament for just people who post (or lurk) this thread? Maybe set up a challonge bracket or something.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 18:57 |
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Admiral Joeslop posted:From what I remember, the second cockpit appeared sometime in the EU way before Rebels. It's also already represented by the B-wing modification that puts in a crew I thought the E2 mod just made it a two-seat, single-cockpit, like they do on some of the modern fighter jets that have a two-seater variant for training.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 19:33 |
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Took me forever to figure out that I could just right-click a ship, and execute a maneuver. Before that I placed a template, used SHIFT-ARROW to get it lined up, then pick up the ship and drag it over, rotate it and SHIFT-ARROW some more to line it up on the other end.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 19:37 |
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For those trying to wrap their heads around vassal, this page has a huge pile of good information. http://s93768914.onlinehome.us/xwing/ Maybe jivjov could add that link to the OP?
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 06:10 |
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EnjoiThePureTrip posted:I run basically this same list except Sensor Jammer on Whisper instead of FCS and no Stealth Device on OL. Question on this list: For Whisper, wouldn't Stygium Particle Accel be a better mod for durability? I haven't used Whisper so don't have any experience, myself.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 16:04 |
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So, a few weeks back I played against a guy who had a Decimator list with kenkirk+Isard+RebelCaptive+Gunner+VI and swore up and down it was the best Decimator list. So, last night I took it up against a Rebel Aces list (Regen Poe + Regen RedAce + Stresshog) and holy balls it was annoying. I dispatched the stresshog early, so it was my Kenkirk+Whisper against Poe and RedAce. The person I was playing kinda floated Poe around the asteroids in the middle a bit so I focused on RedAce (who was green maneuvering almost the whole game to regen shields off Artoo) and Kenkirk just could. not. close. the deal. It was a battle of attrition and my poor job of flying Whisper combined with Kenkirk's lack of offensive punch couldn't get through RedAce's shields before Poe showed up and plinked away at the Deci. Also, Rebel Captive is overrated, I think, at least against rebel aces. Regen aces don't give a care about a little stress against Decimator. Next round, I'm going to do the more standard RAC with Vader+Gunner and see if I like it any better. Whisper was fun, and was the first time I'd really used it at all. I need some practice with it, but it felt agile and effective, even with the decloak nerf. I just have to practice avoiding obstacles.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 17:54 |
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It seems like Whisper left when the Decloak nerf happened, but people are realizing the nerf alone isn't enough to destroy Whisper's utility?
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 18:42 |
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Geisladisk posted:Whisper's big problem now is that she relies immensely on moving last, and the meta right now is dominated by PS 10 Poes. Yeah, I'm currently 0-2 with Decimator + Whisper vs. Poe + friends. Poe destroyed her in both games. Regen aces are really a bugger right now.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 19:08 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Take Epsilon ace ( the one that is ps12 until hurt). Give whisper or echo Decoy instead of VI Decoy only applies to combat phase, though.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 19:25 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:02 |
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I'm pretty sure that was a crack at chick-fil-a's known anti-gay stance. If it wasn't, it should've been lol
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2016 08:14 |