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replacement for transistors so we can continue to advance computing power?
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LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

the gap between the two pieces of silicon are like 50 atoms thick right now, and by 2025 we could get that down to 5 atoms if we can actually measure the voltage and avoid the increasing problem of quantum tunneling

the only other thing i can think of is qbits, but they aren't really a replacement for transistors, but more like a thing that can solve some problems way better than transistors. maybe we'll have combo chips that have both transistors and qbits, i dunno

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:27

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Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

graphene

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:28

A Wheezy Steampunk: Jul 16, 2006; High School Grads Eligible!

memristors

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:29

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

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# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:39

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

probably some kind of artificial neuron. transistors are pretty simplistic in comparison

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:40

the bsd boys: Aug 8, 2011; Can't post for 376 days!

tiny elves, probably. like the ones that make cars go.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:43

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# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:45

Sharktopus: Aug 9, 2006

bamboo and water im p sure its turing complete

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:49

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

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14nm chips dont actually have 14nm features fyi

the entire half-pitch thing became marketing terminology back around 90nm iirc

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:52

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

wanna build a turing complete computer that runs on crabs

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:53

Sharktopus: Aug 9, 2006

Silver Alicorn posted:

wanna build a turing complete computer that runs on crabs

shave a circuit in ur pubes

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:56

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physical switches connected to solenoids

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:01

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:09

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

dick

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:09

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Valeyard posted:

dick

tubes are coming back in a big way!!

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:12

The Leck: Feb 27, 2001

cisistors?

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:13

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Silver Alicorn posted:

tubes are coming back in a big way!!

carbon nanotubes are the poo poo, OP.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:14

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Silver Alicorn posted:

tubes are coming back in a big way!!

yeah its definetely small enough that you can fit a few on a board lol

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:16

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

Sharktopus posted:

bamboo and water im p sure its turing complete

good luck trying to get infinite water

edit: zen =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g83jazMRXFI

LP0 ON FIRE fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 19, 2014

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:23

Sharktopus: Aug 9, 2006

yeah a giant deer chaser network with some of them fixed to the same rod and the rod turning both in sync instead of the rod staying stationary was what i had in mind

# ? Aug 19, 2014 19:58

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

you could make the water output at different flow rates for all the deer scares to "write" your program

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:00

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

just because you don't have an infinitely long tape doesn't mean you can't make something that works like a turing machine

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:03

A Wheezy Steampunk: Jul 16, 2006; High School Grads Eligible!

Silver Alicorn posted:

just because you don't have an infinitely long tape doesn't mean you can't make something that works like a turing machine

i don't know what this means but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iMI_uOM_fY

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:04

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

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# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:05

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

Silver Alicorn posted:

just because you don't have an infinitely long tape doesn't mean you can't make something that works like a turing machine

you're right you could have something act pretty much like a turing machine, but i think by definition it has infinite tape

(Turing 1948, p. 3) posted:

...an unlimited memory capacity obtained in the form of an infinite tape marked out into squares, on each of which a symbol could be printed. At any moment there is one symbol in the machine; it is called the scanned symbol. The machine can alter the scanned symbol and its behavior is in part determined by that symbol, but the symbols on the tape elsewhere do not affect the behavior of the machine. However, the tape can be moved back and forth through the machine, this being one of the elementary operations of the machine. Any symbol on the tape may therefore eventually have an innings.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:20

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

imagination

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:22

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

i don't know what this means but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iMI_uOM_fY

this is blowing my mind thank you

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:26

Moo Cowabunga: Jun 15, 2009; [Office Worker.

a block of concrete

# ? Aug 19, 2014 20:31

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.: Sep 29, 2001

i would love to see edible tablets that are like e-ink but made out of the same stuff as fruit roll-ups

# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:15

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# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:20

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

the gap between the two pieces of silicon are like 50 atoms thick right now, and by 2025 we could get that down to 5 atoms if we can actually measure the voltage and avoid the increasing problem of quantum tunneling

it's more than just tunneling, it's resistance going up (recall that r = rho*l / A). the problem is exacerbated by the fact that that copper interconnects (which we switched to because the resistivity of copper is much less than that of aluminum) poison the doping of silicon, so you have to coat them in a tantalum sheath to prevent that. the minimum thickness of the sheath that works is about 10 atoms, so until we find a material which can act as an effective diffusion barrier to copper with a thinner film than that or move on to non-copper interconnects we're not getting all that much smaller

# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:25

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# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:30

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Valeyard posted:

my

Valeyard posted:

dick

confirmed that valeyard's dick is small and conductive enough to replace transistors

# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:35

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

did anyone say cisistors yet?

# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:37

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

apparently yes welp I guess one of these days i'll actually read something here

# ? Aug 19, 2014 22:38

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