Propaganda Machine posted:

So they only watched last season? Good to know.

Propaganda Machine posted:

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Amazing Race contestants on Survivor?

mancalamania posted:

It did make a huge difference. In the alternate universe where Tony only has the regular Idol at Final 6, he almost certainly plays it at that Tribal Council because he was a paranoid mess (that was the Tribal where Kass and Woo were trolling Tony trying to flush the idol). Then Final 5 is completely different, since you basically had Kass and Woo in open mutiny against Tony and Trish, and if they no longer think Tony has an idol they'd probably target him instead of Trish.

Lone Goat posted:

Wasn't an entire season of BB so incredibly racist that CBS would air Offensive Content warnings beforehand?

Robnoxious posted:

Took me awhile to find this thread because there wasn't any pithy tagline to make it stand out from the rest of the chucklefuck TVIV thread titles. I'm sure that will change over time as we get this poo poo on the road.

xbilkis posted:

Did John say his last name is Wetteland? As in, John Wetteland, another professional baseball relief pitcher??

Lone Goat posted:

Has Jaclyn done anything this season? I missed chunks of episode 1 but she's way off my radar.

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Who the gently caress is Kelly: Usually anybody named Kelly in any season of Survivor will be a totally generic, personality-less automaton, usually the boring cheerleader type.

Rarity posted:

There's a Kelly this season?

Metropolis posted:

I get why they voted Rocker off. Like other people said, he's unreliable. He was literally telling the person they were trying to blindside what they were doing. Not something you want on your team if you want to make it to the end. He's decent in challenges, but not actually amazing. I don't think there's anybody they could have voted off that would have significantly *increased* their chances of winning challenges.

Rocker also openly admitted he had a secret deal with a member of the other team, meaning, as a member of his guy alliance, that he has post-merge plans with 3 people other than you and has already undermined one of your plans to cement that alliance, even if he ultimately went along with it. It also means that if you make a secret deal with him he will tell everyone.

He also had an immunity idol, and if a person gets to hang onto an idol with everyone knowing they have it for too long they have a very strong tendency to gain control over the game or at least their alliance. You don't want someone actually in control of the game other than you.

This all adds up to someone you don't really want in the game. And there's a bit if a time window in the heat of the moment where everyone's been riled up against him, and he probably believes most people don't know about his idol and also his own alliance wants to stay strong or whatever. Post-tribal-shakeup, the idol becomes more powerful both because people don't have their original alliances to latch onto, and because he is more likely to actually play it. Dude had an idol, it wasn't a smooth-sailing "keep the strong guy around till the merge" situation. They could either vote him out now or risk that idol being turned against them. And now, there is a very good chance that idol is re-hidden at their camp and one of them has a chance of getting it.

If I were on this season I'd love to be in final tribal next to Rocker, but I think his own alliance rightfully didn't feel like they could get there. Plus voting John out kind of helps brings the girls back into the fold. You don't want people on your tribe who are eager to vote for you after a shake-up. At least with this vote they can say hey, I know I was against you before but that was just how the alliances ended up, you know you can reason with me and I have made votes in your favour before when you were potentially on the chopping block.

mancalamania posted:

If the tribe is losing most challenges with Rocker anyway

Toaster Ding posted:

You know why no one else wants to do those things dude? Because they're incredibly incredibly dumb.

blue squares posted:

Keith sucks at idol hunting

Red_Museum posted:

Drew described himself as "intellectually privileged" on his exit interview with Rob.

Pinterest Mom posted:

They gave him the triumphant Earl-standing-on-top-of-a-rock helicopter shot.

savinhill posted:

She had potential. She seemed as perceptive and strategy-smart as anyone else this season, and judging by how blunt & honest she was about her father, could've been good in the confessionals if she got far enough to actually have a decent amount of screen time devoted to her.

elgarbo posted:

This season sucks because it's just bland... But imagine how much worse it could/would have been if they actually decided to keep Redemption Island.

Binary Logic posted:

It's funny to read some opinions of the season being bland and boring when it's obvious that Probst and the other producers think the 'loved ones' angle provides many emotional scenes that we the viewers should lap up and appreciate for the intense drama.

Nexal posted:

Probst mentioned it on a interview that he is already tackling down this problem.

Clocks posted:

So, this is the first season of survivor I've ever watched (coming right off the first season of big brother ever -- yeah, well, better late than never) and I've never seen a cast with so many people I'm either apathetic towards or actively dislike. Like, out of the people left, I think only really Natalie (yeah, people hate the twinnies, but I found them entertaining in the amazing race), maybe Jaclyn and Jon, maybe Jeremy are all right. And even then I don't have a clear favorite and the only reason I mention them is because they're not total assholes or totally stupid like all the other people left.

I'm actually pretty glad that Jon/Jaclyn flip-flopped. The season of Big Brother I was watching would often have edits where people would consider flipping their vote to make a big game move but never actually did, so I wouldn't have been surprised if nothing had happened here. But as a girl, I'm kind of pleased that rear end in a top hat behavior was rewarded with J&J flipping, especially since no one else was doing/saying anything about it. Plus, I didn't think Josh was particularly likable, and I thought he was overplaying. Or at least he thought he was playing better than he was, and I just didn't think he was at that level to have that kind of smugness in himself.

Wee Bairns posted:

While none of this cast is setting the world on fire, I'm curious as to why you think Natalie is the worst.

TMMadman posted:

Natalie should be able to reason out that it was Missy/Baylor who really betrayed the alliance

Juanito posted:

Yeah, I think they can be played reactively. I don't think they have to announce it, and they can play it up until the votes have been read.

DaisyDanger posted:

It's going to be in the top 10 dumbest things ever on Survivor. Seriously, what the gently caress, Keith?

Shakugan posted:

People really need to stop trying to read the edit, it just makes everyone look like morons. Some many people were commenting how Josh and Jeremy were clearly edited to have a big alliance battle for the rest of the season, and we all know how that went.