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I was on vacation for a week and then had to move, so I've been catching up on US politics and jesus gently caress, a black man can't even wear taupe?
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ReindeerF posted:That roughly describes Thailand. poo poo works before, during and after coups and street wars because everyone's so used to it that the permanent bureaucracy just works around it. Yes, well, our bureaucracy disproportionately benefits black women bureaucrats, so ours is more an issue of waiting or changing that fact. E: Kellsterik posted:Brings a whole new meaning to "starving the beast". You know the movie Brazil, where we get to view the department with the door open and closed? Well, that door's name is 'pay'. Think of it as more a transition to a 20-hour annual work week for government employees with the same pay and benefits, only some weeks receive more pay and benefits than others. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Aug 31, 2014 04:48
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I was on vacation for a week and then had to move, so I've been catching up on US politics and jesus gently caress, a black man can't even wear taupe? Why would anyone ever willingly catch up on US politics? You had the chance to leave it all behind, man. Should've taken it.
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Aug 31, 2014 04:48
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Almost nine years later and it's still the number one thing I keep up with from home. Number two are stories about Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan, of course.
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Aug 31, 2014 04:53
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enraged_camel posted:Why would anyone ever willingly catch up on US politics? Hey, man, I made that mistake once with Breaking Bad and then I heard about how "you're goddamn right" for months. Never again. I'm gonna watch the end of US Politics live.
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Aug 31, 2014 04:54
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Cythereal posted:And a lot of people who work for the federal government. I suppose not paying government employees for a few months every year is one way towards small government. Although pretty much after every government shutdown, they pass a bill to pay the federal employees for the time they would have worked, but didn't due to the shutdown. I know a guy, a federal employee, who had scheduled vacation the weeks of the shutdown, and he not only got paid for the time the government was shutdown, but he got to keep his vacation days. So the shutdown benefited at least one other person than Ted Cruz.
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Aug 31, 2014 04:56
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I wish you people would just accept that Fried Chicken made a sensible title that he could get through the mods. The perfect is the enemy of the good you know.
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Aug 31, 2014 05:05
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I was on vacation for a week and then had to move, so I've been catching up on US politics and jesus gently caress, a black man can't even wear taupe?
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Aug 31, 2014 05:20
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ReindeerF posted:I dig that total forced collapse for no reason is like an annual budgetary issue for Americans now, like the stupid coups in Thailand. Oh hey guys when is our next total political failure? Let me know so I can save up - THX! I remember you sarcastically talking about how exciting it was that America was on it's way to becoming a developing nation, around 7 or 8 years ago. Ha ha ha. 
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Aug 31, 2014 05:38
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Warmachine posted:From what I've seen on the subject, there's a heck of a lot of Dunning-Kruger effect going on with these Call of Duty wannabes. A classic: Just so everyone's clear this is, quite literally, a mask from the video game Call of Duty: Ghosts  
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Aug 31, 2014 05:45
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mooyashi posted:I remember you sarcastically talking about how exciting it was that America was on it's way to becoming a developing nation, around 7 or 8 years ago.
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Aug 31, 2014 05:51
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I get more of a KOTOR II Darth Nihilus vibe from it. They are afflicted with an insatiable hunger and want to destroy all around them to feed. There is also probably a joke about being fed by darkness, but I'm not clever enough to make it.
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ReindeerF posted:It was sarcasm, it's pathetic to watch a country drive itself into developing world levels of inequality and stupidity and mendacity over absolutely nothing. On the plus side, there will be infinitely more street food and it will get cheaper and cheaper. I hope you enjoy drinking beer at plastic tables in front of the convenience store as well. Go ahead and buy a Honda Click just to get ready, because cars simply won't be affordable for you soon. Its going to be the rise of the affordable motorcycle 
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ReindeerF posted:It was sarcasm, it's pathetic to watch a country drive itself into developing world levels of inequality and stupidity and mendacity over absolutely nothing. On the plus side, there will be infinitely more street food and it will get cheaper and cheaper. I hope you enjoy drinking beer at plastic tables in front of the convenience store as well. Go ahead and buy a Honda Click just to get ready, because cars simply won't be affordable for you soon. I will have you know, sir, that the rural midwest is already like this. Good day.
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Something I read/heard about Ferguson was that alot of the residents can't afford cars so the looting and store closures were preventing people from getting staples.
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Cythereal posted:And a lot of people who work for the federal government. I suppose not paying government employees for a few months every year is one way towards small government. They get paid eventually. Some conservatives/reactionaries threaten to try to fight the efforts to get those workers back-pay, but it's never at serious risk of failing. Grondoth posted:I wish you people would just accept that Fried Chicken made a sensible title that he could get through the mods. The perfect is the enemy of the good you know. Are the mods are well known for their aversion to the word Taupe?
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Aug 31, 2014 06:20
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ElMaligno posted:Its going to be the rise of the affordable motorcycle Smart money don't need no motorcycle, smart money got a bicycle. Cars are for the poors in America.
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Aug 31, 2014 06:39
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McDowell posted:Something I read/heard about Ferguson was that alot of the residents can't afford cars so the looting and store closures were preventing people from getting staples. No? Ferguson is solidly middle class. Plenty of people there have cars and there was never an issue with access to staples. On fact the concern about cars was the reverse - the rich white suburb a 15 minute drive away was freaking the gently caress out that their imagined horde of looters would drive over to their neighborhood. And man, y'all make impeachment jokes for a month and a half, tan suit jokes for an hour, and I'm supposed to go with the latter? Screw this, I'm going golfing
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My Imaginary GF posted:Smart money don't need no motorcycle, smart money got a bicycle. Cars are for the poors in America.
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Fried Chicken posted:No? Ferguson is solidly middle class. Plenty of people there have cars and there was never an issue with access to staples. On fact the concern about cars was the reverse - the rich white suburb a 15 minute drive away was freaking the gently caress out that their imagined horde of looters would drive over to their neighborhood. Fox News > Fried Chicken Seen Golfing During Taupegate Crisis, Thread Talks Impeachment
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Aug 31, 2014 06:51
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ReindeerF posted:John Titor represent. It always amazes me to see him referred to, as I thought it was a ridiculously obscure early Internet thing.
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Beamed posted:It always amazes me to see him referred to, as I thought it was a ridiculously obscure early Internet thing. Dude nothing post-2000 is "early internet"
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Aug 31, 2014 07:30
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ReindeerF posted:John Titor represent. Whether it's a better timeline or not is a question. Perhaps 9/11 and the War on Terror prevented the Civil War he claimed would come. But I'm not sure that's much brighter a future than the one he predicted.
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JT Jag posted:We have already circumvented a number of Titor's predictions so we are likely in an alternate timeline to his at this juncture. Well we aren't all dead but the civil war could just be delayed depending on the specifics of alterations to the timeline.
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sullat posted:Although pretty much after every government shutdown, they pass a bill to pay the federal employees for the time they would have worked, but didn't due to the shutdown. I know a guy, a federal employee, who had scheduled vacation the weeks of the shutdown, and he not only got paid for the time the government was shutdown, but he got to keep his vacation days. So the shutdown benefited at least one other person than Ted Cruz. It's all well and good unless you're working for a contractor, in which case you get to choose between burning vacation days or dealing with unpaid time off. Federal employees seemed disappointed when the last shutdown ended.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's all well and good unless you're working for a contractor, in which case you get to choose between burning vacation days or dealing with unpaid time off. Federal employees seemed disappointed when the last shutdown ended. The federal employees I talked to during the last shutdown were very unhappy, and one woman was in panic mode over losing all of her vacation time.
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Aug 31, 2014 14:31
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's all well and good unless you're working for a contractor, in which case you get to choose between burning vacation days or dealing with unpaid time off. Federal employees seemed disappointed when the last shutdown ended. In the case if my contract (I started in January, so it was before my time), they used the shutdown as an excuse to subcontract all the labor to a glorified IT temp agency, and when the shutdown was over, told all the returning employees they could accept the terms of the subcontractors employment contract or pound sand. People who had been there for over a decade through multiple prime contractors bailed within 6 months. Our most senior person, aside from my boss (who got to keep her position with the prime contractor), started after Thanksgiving last year. All that institutional knowledge, completely down the toilet. I managed to get promoted from the subcontractor to the prime contractor, to a position that won't be subcontracted out if something like that happens again. But the guys still subcontracted get no PTO time, even for holidays. Of they don't work, they don't get paid. I'm afraid in gonna lose all my staff again if we have another shutdown.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:The federal employees I talked to during the last shutdown were very unhappy, and one woman was in panic mode over losing all of her vacation time. I was scared as hell, but the issue was the debt ceiling loving the world economy via default. Otherwise, it was a mess that was eventually going to be corrected. But I work for the DoD, so we were only out of work for a little less than four days. People who had the whole "don't get sick or you're on furlough" thing hanging over their heads were in a totally different situation. They were working and accumulating related bills, but weren't getting paychecks until the whole thing was over. If it had gone on much longer (sans debt bomb) you'd have started to see real problems for people. I was already spitballing a bridge loan to a co-worker so he could pay his rent if we didn't get paid for awhile. This whole thing has done a bunch to get people out of the federal workforce. My organization is something like 9% understaffed, and getting worse. I guess this is part of the plan by the GOP to destroy the effectiveness of federal bureaucracy, and it's painful to watch. It does line up with ReindeerF's "Welcome to the Developing World" line, in that you can't have an effective state if you want non-state actors (churchs and business in the eyes of the GOP) to be the real ones in charge.
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quote:No Drama Obama’s Summer Casual Agenda for America (or What He Didn’t Do On My Summer Vacation) Try to guess, although it's probably rather obvious. non-facebook link.
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It's satire and all but Ferguson was not a race riot,there was no riot ugh.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Just so everyone's clear this is, quite literally, a mask from the video game Call of Duty: Ghosts And they all drink Monster and have horrible breath due to all the caffeine. I used to work with these guys when I was in warehouses.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Smart money don't need no motorcycle, smart money got a bicycle. Cars are for the poors in America. It's like smoking. Sure it's fun but at the end of the day it is just a pricey habit and increases your chances dramatically of an early death.
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Prester John posted:Personally, I think the chances of another shutdown are very high. I don't think Boehner's leadership team could put a clean CR right now if they wanted too, which I'm not convinced they do. My read on things is that the wingnut id is furious over the defeat last year and have chalked it up to a combination of Dolchstoss, and cowardice over the totally-not-real apocalypse of breaking the debt ceiling. Boehner will probably decide that at the very least he will need to put up the pretense of adding some poison pill amendments to the CR, and that will be more than enough to get the crazies chirping loudly. Based on how they all behaved last year I would anticipate a sort of feverish groupthink to overtake the House GOP at some point and drive us right off the cliff. I think this is a fair scenario, but it depends on the numbers. I don't know how many pragmatic conservatives survived the primaries and are in safe districts. At this point in time, there's two years to move past a compromise vote (the vilest of all treasons.) So there's no real primary threat. I'd think the turn-out threat is negligible, given how safe most districts are. I also don't know if Boehner is in the mood to let a CR pass without a majority of Republican votes. I think he would, because I think the outrage over a month long shut down would flip the house. The Republicans are going to whip themselves into a frenzy over something, and the active list of immigration, middle east, and golf is pretty weak. They have to pick something fiscally related, because they have to deal with that right now.
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Berke Negri posted:It's like smoking. Sure it's fun but at the end of the day it is just a pricey habit and increases your chances dramatically of an early death. Smoking is for the poors nowadays. You're not a poors, are you?
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ReindeerF posted:It was sarcasm, it's pathetic to watch a country drive itself into developing world levels of inequality and stupidity and mendacity over absolutely nothing. On the plus side, there will be infinitely more street food and it will get cheaper and cheaper. I hope you enjoy drinking beer at plastic tables in front of the convenience store as well. Thanks, I feel as though I will 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:The federal employees I talked to during the last shutdown were very unhappy, and one woman was in panic mode over losing all of her vacation time. Sure, some folks who legitimately care for their jobs were upset that they couldn't do them for a few weeks. That level of morale is mostly uncommon where I am though, and the woman you were talking to was either not a federal employee or misinformed - none of them lost any vacation time or pay during the process. When the CR was eventually passed, there was a whole lot of grumbling from feds about the vacation being over while the contractors with families were relieved to finally be getting paid again.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Smoking is for the poors nowadays. You're not a poors, are you? If you even have to ask, the answer should be obvious. 
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Berke Negri posted:If you even have to ask, the answer should be obvious. I should clarify. Smoking cigarettes is for the poors and the help. Smoking real cigars is perfectly acceptible in polite society, if not outright encouraged. One campaign I was involved with, the office was next to a Turkish cigar lounge and the family of the candidate had done a favor for the owner of the lounge. Some of the best in-kind donations which were made to my campaign committee (impolite to have a real boss reporting what are definitely not cubans).
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's all well and good unless you're working for a contractor, in which case you get to choose between burning vacation days or dealing with unpaid time off. Federal employees seemed disappointed when the last shutdown ended. I was very disappointed that all republicans didn't commit ritual suicide
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Oh thank God for the name change. Now I can read this thread at work again.
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