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The budding American fascist movement almost had it's first casualty in the fight for liberty.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Gentlemen, surely we need to form a union to set a price-floor on minimum vote prices. Now, what you'll get is anything above a minimum amount that campaigns agree to pay, along with an annual dividend payment in proportion to the total members of your family who vote the way we want. As a guarantee for payments, we'll need you to snapchat a picture of your ballot to a verification algorithm's address. Collectivism is anti-american.
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Aug 30, 2014 18:54
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SavageBastard posted:It might have I don't know. I do know that he provides some of the only real "debate & discussion" in these threads and why people get so mad about him is beyond me. A true troll does it just to get people worked up. Amergin does a pretty decent job at presenting an opposing view and I actually enjoy thinking about and reading how people respond. Without hat this just becomes another echo chamber steamrolling towards liberal fantasyland. Heaven forbid someone present some lovely viewpoints and people have to make a post that isn't pure reaction. People keep throwing around echo chamber but it's really not most of the threads on SA have trended towards being more specialized,these threads used to be 100s of pages. It's really not an opposing view though very rarely did he post his actual positions and when he did it wasn't anything more than standard SA liberal so I'm not seeing how a liberal pretending to be conservative is stopping an echo chamber. If you wanted to do that you'd merge Gip and D&D.  My Imaginary GF posted:Look at this scab, living at 123 North Fake Street. Sure would be bad if anything happened to this scab. Now, I'm not saying scabs deserve violence, that'd ve illegal, one shouldn't scab in a house with glass windows. Good thing unions are on life support in this country or I'd actually be worried.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:22
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It's satire and all but Ferguson was not a race riot,there was no riot ugh.
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Aug 31, 2014 17:30
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Petr posted:Oh thank God for the name change. Now I can read this thread at work again. Fried Chicken encouraging goons not to work. Anyways when is congress back in session officially?
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Aug 31, 2014 21:32
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:September 8. Yes, they get another goddamn week off after Labor Day This makes me irrationally angry. I mean Americans can't even get a week of guaranteed time off,meanwhile these fucks get whole months. I know it's so they can do other jobs or whatever excuse they came up with but the Senate has how many millionaires?
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Sep 1, 2014 00:24
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Nonsense posted:97% of the members of the House make more than 2 million dollars a year. Source? I knew the Senate was like 2/3s millionaires but I thought the house was a little more equal.
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Sep 1, 2014 00:55
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:How long till we see a politician wearing one of these They already have one and you know it.
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Sep 1, 2014 17:06
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radical meme posted:I'm sure it is. Does that make it any less of a play on a stereotype? He's in a suit though? Is this what Republicans mean when they say liberals are the real racists?
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Sep 2, 2014 01:24
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ReindeerF posted:Yes, it's not lying or twisting anything, it's just being disingenuous. There's a problem, it shouldn't be there, but it's not our job to fix it! Being a Republican in government must be a killer gig. You spend all your time taking payoffs from lobbyists and anytime someone tells you to eat your carrots you scribble out a 500 word internally consistent, but completely irrelevant excuse for why you're not going to eat your carrots and then smirk. I don't understand how people who actively want government to be reduced just military and the judiciary and everything else being left up to private industry are not considered totally bonkers in the 21st century. edit: Forgot to mention they don't like the federal government and want politics to basically be on the state level it's like how do you plan on getting anything done. Honestly they want a confederacy when you get down to it (not the confederacy though there are some of those too)butt there's a reason we stopped that (no one paid their taxes and we had no money) SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 02:27
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So we sent a few troops in to guard diplomatic places in Iraq. Less hope this doesn't implode somehow.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:24
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ReindeerF posted:Did you see the Pinoy peacekeepers that had to escape in Golan the other day? I feel like if I pretend this might not implode it won't. Back the Kurds I guess like we should've done the first time even that's not a great solution it's like asking which poo poo sandwich you want to eat and loving Bush is off loving painting or something.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:17
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Caros posted:That isn't her point. Her point is that she considers herself a citizen just the same as a man and feels that the fourteenth amendment already fulfils the goals of the Equal Rights Amendment. The fourteenth amendment says: The civil rights act is pointless using this thought process. The whole system is built on the fact that everyone is equal more opportunities to show that either it is not living up to that bullshit or actually getting people things they need is not bad. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 07:16
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Are there still more states where you can marry your cousin than gay marriage states or are there finally more gay marriage states? If Republicans take the Senate alot of the gains we've made on social issues are going to be rolled back.
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Sep 3, 2014 22:18
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zoux posted:Luckily, the veto. Honestly considered whether Obama would hold back on using his veto power to look more bipartisan and moderate. That's paranoid of me but the only reason we don't have cuts to SS and medicare is because of the Tea Party being dumb ,so hopefully Obama is legitimately saying gently caress it for once despite all the times we thought he was going to do it before.
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Sep 3, 2014 22:25
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Red states are increasingly turning blue. Any damage done now can be reversed in the decade to come. Once Texas turns blue the game is over. Obviously but it's still bad for all the people this is going to affect and a decade is a long time for a human in the grand scheme of history this is nothing clearly.
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Sep 3, 2014 22:34
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comes along bort posted:D E H U M A N I Z E Y O U R S E L F A N D F A C E T O B L O O D S H E D The problem is that the show gives the softball of softball questions there's no journalism going on there. It has nothing to do with David Gregory being left hahaha ok left leaning because someone has to be the leftists so they can have an excuse for Joe to be on. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/koch-brothers-recording_n_5757592.html?utm_hp_ref=tw Koch brothers continue to write their own anti rich propaganda without meaning to. edit: Please change my name to minimum wage is fascism tia
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Sep 4, 2014 04:49
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TLM3101 posted:All right then. Enlighten me here. Kids are being driven to suicide by hate speech, literally hounded into death with words. How do you solve it? How do you stop kids from being made so miserable by this speech that death seems a preferable alternative than living even one second longer? Sometimes people have to die and it's a tragedy but we'd lose freedoms we have now and we might turn into a dictatorship it's like a sacrifice you give say Trayvon Martin for maximum gun rights freedom or if statistics are right 1 in 4 women being raped or sexually assaulted for instance it will never be straight white dudes unless they're poor Raskolnikov38 posted:The results of the American experiment is probably one of the better refutations against democracy. Politicians in the US look at Russia and China with envy,they do not like this democracy or republic poo poo you can tell.
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Sep 10, 2014 20:45
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Because I totally wasn't even a little facetious writing that. People don't understand jokes on this internet comedy forum see: amergin
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Sep 10, 2014 21:38
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Dolash posted:Dismissing knowing about politics as mere bourgeois affectation is pretty demeaning and patronizing to the average American. Would them getting informed be mere class-based posturing? Does expressing an interest in politics turn someone from that hard-working, just-trying-to-make-ends-meet American to a villainous and elitist liberal? I wanna see how he reconciles that opinion with socialist party building  Jerry Manderbilt posted:Didn't enough of the American electorate eventually go "Aw gently caress it, it's as Bush says, 'can't change a horse midstream'"? My grandfather voted Gore then Bush because you don't change a president during a war
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Sep 10, 2014 22:15
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Monkey Fracas posted:Yeah, it's not like it's an impenetrable web of bullshit but there is more than enough bullshit to trip you up and make you mis or underinformed if you don't really care all that much. Half of the country straight up never votes in anything remember that next time someone talks about mandates. Nessus posted:Violence in kind meaning what, here, exactly? His right to say whatever he wants is more important than person being hypothetically harmed because otherwise we'd become a hypothetical dictatorship it's not a confusing point. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 22:49
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Trabisnikof posted:So in your mind, are the Patriot Guard Riders committing violence against the Westboro Baptist Church by limiting their speech? At the point American politics are so removed from the philosophies that spawned it that you're wasting your time. Whatever he answers will have so many exceptions to the rule that it might as well be a different philosophy. Now any ideology involving humans is going to have exceptions to things because context and poo poo is important also people aren't robots but gently caress me if American politics isn't completely a clusterfuck.
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Sep 10, 2014 23:00
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Zeitgueist posted:Oh gosh, we're trying to out white-knight the American people on this topic, are we? My point is that you pretty much said any one who pays attention or is active in politics has to be middle class which is dumb bullshit and also totally against the basics of socialism
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Sep 10, 2014 23:45
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Zeitgueist posted:Yeah I got your point, you didn't get mine, which is why you're posting this poo poo. Or maybe I got your point and I think it's dumb? That whole Lennist argument hasn't worked. Which means you should probably say hey this isn't working maybe try something different instead of using arguments from 1900s from a guy who's leading an unindustrialized nation and comparing it to an industrialized nation Trabisnikof posted:I think there's a distinction to be made between someone saying that there are many institutional reasons that the middle class can be more politically engaged and someone saying absent that repression of the lower class the middle class would still be more politically engaged (which I agree wouldn't be very socialist). No I understand it's a Leninist argument it hasn't worked. Trabisnikof posted:I think there's a distinction to be made between someone saying that there are many institutional reasons that the middle class can be more politically engaged and someone saying absent that repression of the lower class the middle class would still be more politically engaged (which I agree wouldn't be very socialist). They aren't it's total bsing they're barely petite bourgeoisie anymore. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 23:51
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Zeitgueist posted:No, you don't understand, you're attempting to reword my argument to fit what you expected to hear from me, as your posts indicate. No one's trying to feel superior I just disagree with you zamin posted:Technically, the American middle class is mostly proletariat, since the bulk rely on performing wage labor for money. The bourgeoisie doesn't usually start until you get into the upper middle class. Yeah the whole 401K stuff and general stock investment stuff makes it a grey area though.
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Sep 11, 2014 00:04
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JT Jag posted:With the rise of the super-wealthy as a class unto themselves in the 150 years since Marx and Engels wrote the Manifesto, I can't help but feel that identifying everyone as either proletariat or bourgeoisie just isn't suitable for today's political enviroment. Proletarians labor, bourgeoise own the means of production, and this new class manipulates the production system without contributing anything themselves. Bourgeoise are the managers. The new class are the CEOs. Bourgeoise own a franchise of McDonalds, the new class are the ones profiting from the percentages of McDonalds franchises worldwide. Bourgeoise might be a consultant for a bank. The new class is an investment banker that makes money off other companies. Seems like a derail so I'm going to answer in the Marx thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3543938
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Sep 11, 2014 00:23
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Australia's had compulsory voting for decades and there has never been an instance of "localities harassing people by scheduling elections". The fines a bit much just have mandatory voting and give people a day off.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:39
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Grand Prize Winner posted:If Clinton wins the election all she'll do is spend 4-8 years kowtowing to the far right like Obama did. What the Democratic party desperately needs is a left-wing firebreather, like Bernie Sanders but younger. Warren may fit the bill but she still ain't running, so gently caress it, I'm voting SPUSA. You're organizing locally though right? Centrists and leftists alike in this country forget you can't just vote and call it a day. The reason the right wing and DLC types can do that is because rich people do all the organizing and fund raising for them, you don't have that option. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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Sep 16, 2014 07:39
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I got for real deja vu reading the last couple pages. Are some of you guys just copying posts you made years ago and pasting them here to mess with me? No,somehow they've got it in their heads they're making grand convincing arguments to one another and certainly not wasting time arguing the same old tired arguments. Like what are you going to do. Personally force someone vote Green,mind control them to vote Hilary? It's so pointless.
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Sep 16, 2014 10:15
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Radbot posted:Isn't Zizek basically an accelerationist? He's got some interesting things to say about liberal Band-Aids. Yeah but take him with a grain of salt (so not very seriously) he makes some good points but some of his politics are stupid and unhelpful. (anything he writes about anarchists as an example) Joementum posted:So is Bill Ayers, which by extension means Obama is too. The accelerationism is coming from inside the White House! Obama's secret Marxist Muslim plan revealed
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Sep 17, 2014 15:32
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I've never read Zizek, what does he say about anarchists? Basically remember the last 5 pages or so? Imagine if you were the anarchist and the liberal posters were Zizek and swamp out the liberal points for Centralist (as in central vs say democratic socialism) talking points. The anarchists wanted the USSR to fail,anarchists are sabotaging leftist political movements by wanting perfection etc. He has other dumb opinions but his position of Anarchism is both dumb and quick to explain in short paragraphs. SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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Sep 17, 2014 15:50
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rear end in a top hat who thinks he's a mod posted:Goddamn shut up about it. Leftists throwing a hissy fit right before a midterm is hardly a new thing, in fact it's happened before nearly every midterm for a few decades now. Why do you think midterms suck so hard for Dems? Screaming that you want to have things your way RIGHT NOW is just self-indulgent entitlement, and we've heard it all before. Politics is a slow game. Things have already perceptibly shifted just in the last 10-12 years. Not fast enough for you? Please whine about it some more, it's such a pleasure to read. Oracle posted:Which is why you open to ALL (families, but you always say mothers). Your mom/wife works so hard, you think she doesn't deserve a little something more than flowers and a card once a year? How can you say you're for families and children and be against this? Don't you love your mom/wife? If you can figure out a way that only white people get it. You can probably pass this in about 3 years. Seriously it's how Social Security and the GI bill passed. Just adding all the minorities in later of course this is speaking from a pure politics level. So just ignore the horrible ethics for this hypothetical.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:48
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day: “I try to stay out of that — all the issues,” said John Boehner on whether he would weigh in on immigration policy. Wow politicians usually aren't this honest. He's just like gently caress that clusterfuck of stupid. Still won't be enough Tea Party still hates him.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:01
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JT Jag posted:Ah, so Steve King will be to blame for the ultimate demographic death of the Republican Party in 20-30 years. The best part about this is it would be really easy for them to pull chunks of the women,black,hispanic demographics but gently caress not being bigots and no way the government does anything useful.
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Sep 29, 2014 18:12
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