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are there games where i can use a gender slider???? i heard there was one before??!??
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Sep 4, 2014 15:52
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saints row 2, op. a great innovation from a great game
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Sep 4, 2014 15:53
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uhhhh you can't graph gender identity to a loving binary line. i need a game with a 3 dimensional gender matrix: male/female on the X, cis/trans on the Y, homo/hetero on the Z
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Sep 4, 2014 15:59
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dark souls
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Sep 4, 2014 16:04
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JethroMcB posted:uhhhh you can't graph gender identity to a loving binary line. i need a game with a 3 dimensional gender matrix: male/female on the X, cis/trans on the Y, homo/hetero on the Z
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Sep 4, 2014 16:08
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probably the next tales of game's barkley vidcon, since thats the only logical progression from having a dozen gender choices
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Sep 4, 2014 16:25
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gender is a social construct and therefore cannot influence physical attributes your gender in a game is whatever your character wants it to be
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Sep 4, 2014 16:51
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now if you're talking about a slider for the gender you were (unfairly) assigned at birth? good question.
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Sep 4, 2014 16:52
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Mr. Pumroy posted:saints row 2, op. a great innovation from a great game Cool Blue Reason posted:dark souls also "S2: Silent Storm"
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Sep 4, 2014 16:56
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also "redshirt" i'm pretty sure had a gender slider, but i blocked that garbage piece of poo poo from my memory e. quote:When, as developers, we build stuff, you kind of put your own biases go into that. I thought okay, if I’m not following conventions of character creators, and just putting binary ‘male’ ‘female’ because that’s what happens, what would I actually want to put? I know that even a gender slider is problematic in lots of ways in terms of how we look at gender, and so that’s not necessarily going to be the final, final version - but you know, gender is such a complicated thing, which is also why there’s a private option, if you just want to go ‘screw all this’! Soral fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 16:57
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"Screw All This," the Pansexual Nightmare option
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Sep 4, 2014 17:04
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Give me a game that rather than having a gender selector it has checkboxes
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Sep 4, 2014 17:12
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JethroMcB posted:uhhhh you can't graph gender identity to a loving binary line. i need a game with a 3 dimensional gender matrix: male/female on the X, cis/trans on the Y, homo/hetero on the Z please don't use your artificial constructs to attempt to define my gender identity
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Sep 4, 2014 17:22
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two worlds two? there needs to be a beast slider like my avatar
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Sep 4, 2014 17:22
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4th temporal dimension added, devs. gender identity is nto static allow me to refer you to some tumblrs
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Sep 4, 2014 17:30
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Kazvall posted:two worlds two?
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Sep 4, 2014 17:47
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This is going to sound hosed up, but IMO two genders is fine and I don't think games need gender sliders.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:49
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Poniard posted:probably the next tales of game's barkley vidcon, since thats the only logical progression from having a dozen gender choices [ ] male [ ] female [ ] dwarf [ ] eunuch [ ] other where you can select any number of options should give you a lot more than a dozen, but I can't be bothered to do the math on it
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Sep 4, 2014 18:01
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It should have a slider that doesn't label either axis / side.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:49
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i don't get the gender slider thing. are you saying you want to be 22 percent girl, 78 percent boy or some poo poo? how the gently caress does that work? i thought people like that in real life had like balls that were also ovaries or some poo poo, and i doubt they want that.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:51
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SunAndSpring posted:i don't get the gender slider thing. are you saying you want to be 22 percent girl, 78 percent boy or some poo poo? how the gently caress does that work? i thought people like that in real life had like balls that were also ovaries or some poo poo, and i doubt they want that. It likely represents more the various modes of expression in identity. Farewell.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:53
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gender slider sounds like something a japanese white castle would serve you
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Sep 4, 2014 19:05
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Wormskull posted:It likely represents more the various modes of expression in identity. Farewell. my gender identity is 63% male and 37% female with a standard variance of +/-3.7%. this is a normal and human way to think about gender that covers the wide and nuanced concept of self identity perfectly and is definitely not stupid bullshit, beep boop
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Sep 4, 2014 19:14
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Soral posted:my gender identity is 63% male and 37% female with a standard variance of +/-3.7%. this is a normal and human way to think about gender that covers the wide and nuanced concept of self identity perfectly and is definitely not stupid bullshit, beep boop I didn't say perfectly, and it's about expression or whatever people call how you like you present yourself as well as offering a chance to diverge from "Classical" forms of beauty, however flawed, because the physicality of your video game avatar is generally harder to pretend than identity, I assume.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:22
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SR2's slider isn't so you can decide your character thinks their a more "masculine" looking woman on average, it's so you can make them look like one, for example. Or whatever. IMO for whatever its faults in simulating reality, it's better than just male or female choices as long as it doesn't gently caress up the clothes or skin textures or whatever developers are considering when creating limits.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:24
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Wormskull posted:SR2's slider isn't so you can decide your character thinks their a more "masculine" looking woman on average, it's so you can make them look like one, for example. Or whatever. IMO for whatever its faults in simulating reality, it's better than just male or female choices as long as it doesn't gently caress up the clothes or skin textures or whatever developers are considering when creating limits. People who hate this kinda thing are way funnier to laugh at than people who like it
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Sep 4, 2014 19:28
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I'd just do the Dark Souls thing of having two genders, but having a slider for masculine or feminine features.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:31
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I don't know what's supposed to be funny about people who like that kind of thing other than like if some goon is really proud of his insane samoan bodybuilding pimp trans woman hitting people with a can and he's writing a lot of words about it and putting the awesome face or like, writing some fan fiction in the Saints Row forum about his character and wayne brady choked a bitch and fled the cops while on fire. You know, goon stuff.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:32
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if i can post earnestly for a moment, like the huge human being that i am, i actually think its cool when games include gender sliders because it means that They're Trying™ and also character customization is cool and the more in depth and spergy it gets the better
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Sep 4, 2014 19:34
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SunAndSpring posted:I'd just do the Dark Souls thing of having two genders, but having a slider for masculine or feminine features. I personally prefer say, in the Sims 4 or Eve or w/e where you can shape the character model. Hopefully some day for these non-binary folk's sakes they figure out a good way to give expressive freedom that isn't as offensive or whatever.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:35
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Soral posted:if i can post earnestly for a moment, like the huge human being that i am, i actually think its cool when games include gender sliders because it means that They're Trying™ and also character customization is cool and the more in depth and spergy it gets the better Agreed.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:35
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My Saint's Row character is male and has 100% on the "sex appeal" meter but dresses exclusively in women's clothing because that's just who I decided he was in SR1 and have maintained it throughout the series. He's also morbidly obese and has a harelip. EDIT: I should note that this stemmed from trying to break the character creator and by the end of the game I had grown attached to my hideous orange-dreadlocked pinheaded psychopath JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 19:41
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JethroMcB posted:He's also morbidly obese and has a harelip. Large black man leans back in convertible and grins, immensely satisfied, at the sun.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:42
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JethroMcB posted:My Saint's Row character is male and has 100% on the "sex appeal" meter but dresses exclusively in women's clothing because that's just who I decided he was in SR1 and have maintained it throughout the series. my saints row 3 character was a cheerleader with a witch hat
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Sep 4, 2014 19:42
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Soral posted:if i can post earnestly for a moment, like the huge human being that i am, i actually think its cool when games include gender sliders because it means that They're Trying™ and also character customization is cool and the more in depth and spergy it gets the better
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Sep 4, 2014 19:43
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wait, so a gender slider means i can make my character be lots of man with a little girl?
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Sep 4, 2014 20:06
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LaTex Fetish posted:wait, so a gender slider means i can make my character be lots of man with a little girl? Good thing that's only legal in video games.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:09
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Mach2 posted:Good thing that's only legal in video games.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:12
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Soral posted:if i can post earnestly for a moment, like the huge human being that i am, i actually think its cool when games include gender sliders because it means that They're Trying™ and also character customization is cool and the more in depth and spergy it gets the better i am a huge human being and i agree
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Sep 4, 2014 21:08
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Misread "gender slider" as "gender slicer" and thought it could make a good username.
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Sep 4, 2014 21:14
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