sparatuvs posted:

Some people are reporting that the assault on Mariupol has begun

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ukrainian/news_in_brief/2014/09/140904_vc_mariupol_attack.shtml

https://twitter.com/KabanPoltinnik/status/507488593317609472

https://twitter.com/Hightown99/status/507485841128947712

https://twitter.com/GZhygalov/status/507497583405981697

Live cam in Mariupol:
http://webcam.guru.ua/city/Mariupol/

e:Simon Ostrovsky confirms shelling has begun
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/507487269377175552

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

The thread icon change makes me sad.

Dilkington posted:

Could you define "tomclancy chat?" I am trying to learn as much about the Russian order of battle as possible, especially in regards to how it is integrated with separatist units.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

So in simple terms, just don't go off on wild hypothetical tangents, just stick to what's actually happening and the near future?

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

I mentioned the Baltics in the OP. There is plenty of real discussion about it, and NATO is increasing their presence there.

sparatuvs posted:

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Eastern Europe: Is Putin the next Stalin Russia so badly needs?

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President Poroshenko in Newport (Wales, UK) announced the arrangements for an armistice and brought the conditions of these agreements.
"True European", the full text of the statement of the president in Ukrainian translation (Poroshenko addressed the audience in English).

Gentlemen, as you know, in Minsk (at a meeting of the tripartite group on conflict regulation) signed a protocol with imlementatsiyi my peace plan.

In this protocol, specific steps to establish peace and stability of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

Based on this protocol, I instructed the head of my army to declare a truce starting from 18.00 Moscow time, ie half an hour.

It is important that this truce lasted a long time, it will enable us to continue political dialogue that will bring peace and stability in the Donbass.

I would also like to know that it includes a road map, which should be prescribed action steps for each item of the protocol.

We expect that will soon be released hostage. Most probably it will happen tomorrow. We are ready to provide significant steps that include decentralization, the special status of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions for their economic freedom, guarantee the free use of any language in the area as well as cultural traditions.

It also will include an amnesty - that is all that is in my peace plan.

I can say that today I am very pleased with the results of the summit and very pleased that (the agreement on) a truce is reached during the summit.

I can also confirm that this truce is based on the agreements that were reached during my telephone conversation with President Putin, and this is important because (guarantees) that this truce will last long. Now this - our common (Putin) responsibility.

I can assure you that the Ukrainian side we will do our utmost to preserve peace and stability in eastern Ukraine.

I also want to assure you that this truce reached on the basis of my peace plan that is based on respect for the sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine.

The application was made in the presence of several dozen journalists from Ukraine and foreign media approach the President to the press did not include questions.

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Moscow. September 6th. INTERFAX.RU - Russian forces create a permanent base for the Northern Fleet in the Arctic, located in the New Siberian Islands.

"The main goal of the next campaign detachment of the Northern Fleet in the Arctic - to deliver personnel, equipment and property of the Northern Fleet task force, which from this year will be to serve in the New Siberian Islands on a regular basis," - said the commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vladimir Korolev, whose words are reported to the Office of the Press and Information of the Ministry of Defense, received by the "Interfax" on Saturday.

Go to the New Siberian Islands from Severomorsk came a detachment of ships and vessels as part of a large anti-submarine ship "Admiral Levchenko" large landing ships "George" and "Kondopoga" tanker "Sergey Osipov", rescue tug "Pamir" and mooring the ship of the Baltic Fleet, "Alexander Pushkin. "

Commander of the Northern Fleet, also stressed that "to ensure the safest possible conditions for navigation in complex, in terms of navigational situation, arctic regions, the transition squadron will be organized taking into account the features of hydro-meteorological and continuous monitoring of ice conditions, which will be involved in aircraft and helicopters of naval aviation Northern Fleet. "

It is expected that certain stages of the transition regions of the Northern Sea Route, a detachment of ships of the Northern Fleet will be accompanied by nuclear icebreakers State Corporation "Rosatom".

This is the third large-scale campaign of the Northern Fleet in the Arctic over the past few years. In 2012, the Marines of the Northern Fleet for the first time in the history of the Russian Navy carried out amphibious landing on unequipped coast Boiler. In 2013, a detachment of ships led by the flagship of the Northern Fleet nuclear cruiser "Peter the Great" delivered to the New Siberian Islands techniques and equipment to restore aviation commandant "Temp".

In late August, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia intends to develop and strengthen their position in the Arctic, including restoring military infrastructure, but is ready to consider the interests of other states.

"Many perceive our activities as a wary, scared of this activity. We have said many times that we act solely in the framework of international law, we have always acted so and so are going to act in the future", - Putin said on August 28, speaking at the youth forum "Seliger-2014".

In just a few days before the Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird in an interview with the Danish newspaper Berlingsk expressed concern buildup of Russian military forces in the Arctic, and said that his country is ready to defend its interests in the region, including the use of force.

Paladinus posted:

Has anything of importance happened in Ukraine since Poroshenko and Putin agreed on a ceasefire plan?

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The officer Estonian Internal Security Service was transferred to Moscow - said the Minister Urmas Paet Foreign Affairs. How to inform the Estonian media, the officer was yesterday "kidnapped" from the country near the border with Russia.

How Paet gave in an interview with Internet portal delfi.ee, for now, the Estonian authorities want to contact with the Russian side to "as soon as possible to resolve this matter." So far Russia maintains that the stopping officer Eston Kohvera, prevented operations services on the territory of Russia.

Meanwhile, the Estonian Security Service claims that the Russians entered the territory of Estonia and the officer stopped there. Witnessing have about including footprints that appear on the Russian side of the border and back into it.

According to Tallinn, the incident occurred near the checkpoint Luhamaa. Estonian officer, he served as the official control, prevention of cross-border crime. Agency BNS reports that the attackers have used physical force against him and threatened him weapons. The Agency adds that before the abduction occurred operational interference to radio communications. Posted a smoke grenade "from the direction of Russia."

On the other hand, according to the Russian Federal Security Service, the officer was detained on the territory of Russia, in the region of Pskov. FSB says that he had a gun, cash value of 5000 euros, specialized equipment to secretly record audio and instructions for intelligence gathering. Initiated an investigation against him.

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The long-awaited "Minsk truce" , concluded between the official representatives of Russia, Ukraine, the OSCE and the terrorist "republics" DNR and LC yesterday, September 5, lasted only a little more than a day. Today, September 6 at about 22:30 local time, the Russian military under the guise of "national militia of Donbass" again shelled the Ukrainian city of Mariupol from multiple rocket launchers BM-21 "Grad", reports local site 0629.com.ua .

According to eyewitness reports, the volleys of "Grads" can be heard in the district of East. Shooting in the area of ​​suburban village Shirokino, who a few days ago, the Russian army literally flattened and murdering locals, although no Ukrainian military was not there.

Cat Mattress posted:

From LiveUAMap:

Fabulous Knight posted:

"Finland wants to join Russia". Turns out to this article consists of one "influential businesswoman and lawyer" writing about it (I've never heard about her, Google brings no results of such a person existing), one guy from a nationalist opposition party saying a military alliance might be cool and there's also our resident loony Johan Bäckman supporting such an idea. He is... he's a really special piece of work. Essentially he's trying to bring Finland closer to Russia in a very thinly veiled manner and his wacky antics would really be deserving of a post of their own altogether but I'm too tired to put one together. These people really do not add up to "Finland wanting to join Russia", so to hell with that journal. It is alarming that they thought publishing such an article was a good idea in the first place but it will be inconsequential. Whatever support Russia has here it is irrelevant.

Eh, what the hell. Johan Bäckman is basically a lawyer, I guess, or maybe a political analyst or whatever. He is a major Russophile and first emerged on the public scene of Finland back in around 2007. The ultimate aim of his actions is to probably forge a union between Finland and Russia if not make us a part of Russia again. He is apparently sponsored by an oligarch close to the Kremlin who wishes to see all former Russian territories in Europe be part of the country again. Bäckman usually causes some kind of uproar every year by saying something stupid and crazy. Essentially our government is, the story goes, a puppet government of NATO and the United States or something like that. He believes among other things that the Baltic States are "apartheid states" because Russian speakers are oppressed there. He thinks Russian should be an official language in Finland and that the Finnish declaration of independence from 1917 might be illegitimate because it was written in bad handwriting. Sweden is secretly trying to take over Finland through the Swedish minority here, I think. As I recall there will be an armed revolution within five years in Finland to purge the country of our Western puppet leaders and install a pro-Russian government.

But they do listen to him in Russia, apparently and he frequently appears as an analyst and expert of Finnish-Russian matters on Russian media. So... yeah.

icantfindaname posted:

The new thread title was supposed to be "Watch LF posters turn into neocons before your eyes"

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http://online.wsj.com/articles/malaysia-says-intelligence-reports-on-flight-17-crash-pretty-conclusive-1409983490?mod=trending_now_2

Malaysia said Saturday intelligence reports on the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 are "pretty conclusive" and investigators are now working on assembling physical evidence that can be presented to court.

"First of all, we do have the intelligence reports [on] what happened to MH17 and the reports are pretty conclusive," Prime Minister Najib Razak said at a joint news conference with Australia Prime Minister Tony Abbott on his first official visit to Malaysia.

The comments come ahead of Tuesday's release of a preliminary report by the Dutch Safety Board on Fight 17's crash. The board plans to conduct further investigations and expects to publish the final report within a year of the crash on July 17.

Investigators have said they believe the plane was brought down by a surface-to-air missile from an area controlled by pro-Russian separatists.

"What we need to do next is to assemble physical evidence that can be brought to court when the time comes so that it can be proven beyond any doubt that the plane was shot down by a missile," Mr. Najib said.

Mr. Najib added that investigators will need at least a few weeks to search the crash site in the volatile Donetsk region for remains and evidence before those responsible in the "atrocious crime" can be brought to court

Scapegoat posted:

So mightypeon and co will just ignore the findings as western lies and keep blaming Ukraine?

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Brilev, an anchorman of Rossiya 1 TV channel.
“We should understand that a huge funnel was created and its swirling flows have been sucking Russia and us in. Who is interested in it? You know it. It is not in Europe's interests either any longer. It is 'Uncle Sam' from overseas that has been constantly pushing us to the fighting. And, let us be frank, there are a lot of politicians in Ukraine who follow this order,” Aliaksandr Lukashenka said.
“We must get away from this funnel, because Americans will not fight against us and Russia there. They want us to kill each other, to kill our people. But people in Ukraine are our brothers,” the head of state said. “Why do we let people clash against each other here? We, first of all, politicians must put an end to it and stop the war,”

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Poroshenko President signed a law that permitted lease of main gas pipelines and underground gas storage facilities without their alienation.

This shows information on the relevant bill storinochtsi Online Supreme Council.
Under the law, the transfer of gas transportation system of Ukraine for rent can be done only with the principles of respect for economic security.

The paper noted that the operator GTS assigned to entity founder and owner of which can be exclusively state, including through "Naftogaz Ukraine", or the state, including through "Naftogaz" and the entity ( entities), which is owned and controlled by residents of EU member states, the United States Energy Community and is the operator of the gas transportation system or a member of the European network of transmission system operators of gas.

In this case, the final decision on the participation of non-resident in the authorized capital of the company, who is entrusted with the operator GTS, adopted by the Council.

The law established that the founder and owner of the company created to perform the functions of the operator of the underground gas storage facility can be extremely self-government or state (possession of at least 51% of corporate rights) and legal entity (entities) that are owned and controlled by residents of the state Member States, the United States Energy Community.

In this case, the final decision on the participation of non-resident in the authorized capital of the company, who is entrusted with the operator of underground gas storage facilities, should also be adopted by the Council.

In conducting the competition a company which is a resident of the EU or the United States is obliged to disclose all information about the structure of their property and show all beneficiaries who own the company, and any change in the ownership structure of the company that won the tender, is permitted only for consent of the Ukrainian side.

Brown Moses posted:

Oh hey, look what I found, the Buk used to down MH17 in Russia being driven around by Russian troops.

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PARIS — A Malaysia Airlines passenger jet that went down over a war zone in eastern Ukraine in July was struck by “high-energy objects from outside the aircraft,” Dutch officials leading the investigation of the crash said in a preliminary report published on Tuesday.

The finding is consistent with theories that the jetliner was brought down by a missile designed to detonate before reaching its intended target, spraying it with sharp metal fragments.

The objects struck the cockpit and front fuselage of the eastbound plane, investigators for the Dutch Safety Board reported, strongly suggesting that they were fired from eastern Ukraine or western Russia. The investigators did not identify the source of the fragments that struck the aircraft or who was responsible for launching them.

“A full listening of the communications among the crew members in the cockpit recorded on the cockpit voice recorder revealed no signs of any technical faults or an emergency situation,” the summary said. “Neither were any warning tones heard in the cockpit that might have pointed to technical problems.”

Flight 17 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, when it was blown out of the sky on July 17 over territory controlled by pro-Russian rebels, killing all 298 people on board, of whom two-thirds were Dutch citizens. The United States and Ukraine have accused the separatists of downing the plane with a powerful surface-to-air missile provided by the Russian military.

In the two months since the plane went down, civilian witnesses and at least one rebel leader have told Western news media that they saw what they believed were heavy missile launchers being transported in the area in the days leading up to the accident.

Those accounts have suggested that the launchers were of a type used to fire a Russian-made surface-to-air missile called an SA-11, and known as a Buk in Russian. A Buk system is vehicle-mounted and self-propelled, which means it can be moved around easily, making it hard to track.

Moscow has publicly denied those claims, however, and some Russian officials have gone so far as to suggest the plane was brought down by the Ukrainian military.

Because of intense fighting in the area where the plane, a Boeing 777-200, went down, the investigators’ access to the wreckage site was extremely limited in the immediate aftermath of the crash. For days, bodies and debris were strewn across fields near the village of Grabovo, a separatist-controlled area not far from the border with Russia.

Much of the wreckage was left unguarded and accessible to journalists, mourners and curiosity-seekers, raising concerns that important evidence may have been tampered with.

While dismayed about the unsafe conditions that have complicated their work, the Dutch investigators were provided with a trove of on-site photo and video evidence, as well as data from military satellites and radar, to supplement the information gleaned from the plane’s flight recorders.

The plane’s flight data and cockpit voice recorders were recovered by rebel forces in the days after the crash and handed over to Malaysian officials, who in turn transferred them to the Dutch board. Analysis of the data they contained was conducted in Britain by that country’s Air Accidents Investigations Branch and presented to the Dutch team in The Hague last month.

The investigators reported that the pattern of the wreckage, which was scattered over dozens of square miles, suggested that the plane “split into pieces during flight.” An analysis of available images, it added, showed that “pieces of the wreckage were pierced in numerous places” in a pattern “consistent with that which may be expected from a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from the outside.”

The Dutch report said the plane’s data recorders indicated Flight 17 was flying in unrestricted air space at an altitude of 33,000 feet when it entered the sector monitored by controllers in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine. At that time, the communications transcripts showed, controllers asked the pilots if they could ascend to 35,000 feet in accordance with the airline’s previously approved flight plan and also to give a wider berth to another Boeing 777 that was in the area and approaching Flight 17 from behind at 33,000 feet.

Flight 17’s crew replied that they were unable to comply and asked to remain at 33,000 feet, which the Ukrainian controllers accepted and instead directed other nearby flights to ascend to 35,000 feet.

The Dutch report indicated that air traffic controllers lost contact with Flight 17 shortly after 1:20 p.m. Coordinated Universal Time (4:20 p.m. in Ukraine), just as controllers in Ukraine were handing off responsibility for the flight to their Russian counterparts.

When the crew failed to acknowledge an instruction after a one-minute delay, Ukrainian operators of the air traffic control center in Dnipropetrovsk, repeatedly tried to establish contact with the flight — first by radio and then by satellite phone.

“Malaysian one-seven, how do you read me?” a controller asked. “Malaysian one-seven.”

A minute later, a Russian controller, who was also monitoring the flight from a control center in Rostov interjected: “Listening you, it’s Rostov.”

“Rostov, do you observe the Malaysian by ... by the response?” the Ukranian side asked.

“No,” the Russian controller responded. “It seems that its target started falling apart.”

“It’s disappeared,” said the Ukrainian operator, who asked if the Russians could see any trace of the plane on their radar screens.

“We see nothing,” the Russian operator said.

The Dutch board stressed that the report published on Tuesday was only a preliminary snapshot of the evidence uncovered and said further analysis and investigation would continue over the coming months. A final report is not expected to be published before next summer.

“More research will be necessary to determine the cause with greater precision,” Tjibbe Joustra, chairman of the Dutch board, said in a statement, adding that investigators “believe that additional evidence will become available for investigation in the period ahead.”

Brown Moses posted:

I've helped out CrisisNET with their platform, that's very much about crunching data and turning it into something usable, and I'm currently working with Right Now Media on a proposal to create a site based on their Sport Right Now site, which allows social media accounts to be tagged in a database, then sorted on their front end. They've done it for football teams, I'm doing for Syrian opposition groups, to bring order to the 1000s of Syrian social media accounts.

Just saw the Russia Today clip, it was pretty funny really. They've got Bryan MacDonald giving his "expert" analysis, he deduces I'm on the dole because "they're" (Bellingcat) are on Twitter all day, and implies some nefarious funding. The Russia Today host then goes on to suggest "citizen reporters" are a "dangerous trend, to say the least", and Bryan adds "anyone can say anything when they're anonymous, it's called trolling I think". I hope they get the clip on YouTube so I can share it, it's really peak Russia Today.

OddObserver posted:

I shouldn't be saying this to you, but the spin on WWII in modern Russian identity is overwhelmingly positive and centered on victory more than the cost. Also, please don't say "Russia won" --- there were plenty of non-Russians in Soviet Army, like, say, Ukrainians, something that the real Vladimir Putin would rather have people forget.

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Unusual ecological event was held at the tank firing range in the village Gozha
Organizers thus decided to pay attention to recovery - a special technology which allows of the old, served their purpose of things to do something new. So in Grodno from old tires make rubber coating "ECOPOL." That's it, and decided to test with the help of this battle tank weighing 42 tons.

- In the Grodno region is processed almost 90% of the waste, but the waste consumption, this figure is much lower - less than 12% - said the head of the department of state control over the handling of waste Grodno Regional Committee for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Valentine Putra. - But these figures can be increased by recycling more and more used things, thus contributing to the protection of the environment.

Hambilderberglar posted:

http://antikor.com.ua/articles/13410-igorj_girkin_strelkov_najden_mertvym_v_rossii
According to these guys Igor Strelkov has been found dead in Russia. I can't find anything anywhere else confirming this and I have no idea how reliable these guys are.
If it ends up being true I can't help but wonder if the Kremlin is now cleaning up the biggest loudmouths and anyone who might bring the fight home to Russia or be in a position to tell tales.

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Moscow (AFP) - An Estonian policeman detained by Russian security services has been charged with espionage in a case that has sent tensions soaring between Moscow and its small NATO-member neighbour.

Tallinn has accused Moscow of abducting Eston Kohver at gunpoint from Estonian territory. He now faces up to two decades in jail.

The arrest of the Estonian national came just days after US President Barack Obama visited the former Soviet state last week to calm the nerves of Washington's Baltic allies over the Ukraine crisis.

"Eston Kohver was charged on September 8 with espionage," his lawyer Nikolai Polozov told AFP on Thursday. "He faces up to 20 years in prison."

The controversial detention has alarmed people in the tiny country of Estonia, which was occupied by the Soviet Union for half a century before it broke free from the crumbling USSR in 1991.

Along with fellow Baltic states the nation of 1.3 million joined the EU and NATO in 2004 as a bulwark against Russian influence.

The European Union on Thursday called for "an immediate release of Mr Kohver and his safe return to Estonia," a spokesperson for the bloc's diplomatic service said in a statement.

The statement added that the EU delegation in Moscow was in contact with the Russian authorities to seek a quick solution to the "abduction" of Kohver.

Lawyer Polozov said that he had not yet been able to visit Kohver, who is being held in Moscow's Lefortovo prison, used to jail those being investigated by the FSB security services.

"I can't yet give his version of events since my colleague and I only took on the case yesterday and so far have not managed to see our client," Polozov said."He is being held in Lefortovo pre-trial detention centre. That's the FSB jail. In order to get inside, you have to get a special permit."

The FSB, the successor agency to the Soviet-era KGB, declined immediate comment on Thursday.

In a rare public statement, the FSB announced last week it had detained Kohver as he attempted to carry out intelligence gathering in northwestern Russia close to the Estonian border.

Tallinn's President Toomas Hendrik Ilves gave a different account, accusing Moscow of kidnapping its national on Estonian soil as he was investigating cross-border crime.

Estonian prosecutors said Kohver was taken at gunpoint in action-film style, veiled by a smoke grenade after the Russians jammed his communications.

Polozov told AFP that the defence team would be arguing that the charges against Kohver were unlawful because he was abducted.

"The charges of espionage are groundless and illegal since if a person is abducted, everything that is done to him afterwards is illegal," the lawyer said.

He also wrote on Twitter that his team had filed a complaint over Kohver's detention.

"I saw Kohver's case. There's a heap of 'secret' classifications so I had to sign off on state secrets," he tweeted. "Don't even ask me to tell you."

Polozov is a high-profile rights lawyer who was part of the defence team for the Pussy Riot punk band members.

- 'Unprecedented in post-Cold War era' -

The FSB has claimed that Kohver works for Estonia's security police, which oversees internal security and intelligence gathering.

The agency also said he was carrying covert recording equipment, a pistol and what appeared to be assignments for an intelligence mission, as well as 5,000 euros ($6,500).

Russian television aired FSB footage of the evidence and showed a grim-faced Kohver being led into a Moscow court by security operatives wearing black masks.

Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet has complained that Moscow has failed to update Estonian authorities on the incident and diplomats have been unable to see Kohver.

Eerik-Niiles Kross, a former Estonian intelligence chief and diplomat, told AFP Kohver's arrest was unprecedented "during the entire post-Cold War era".

"In my opinion, it is not only an extraordinary event in Estonia but also much wider in the relationship between Russia and NATO."

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Authorities banned Zaslaul exhibition about the life in Western Belarus

Opening of the exhibition "Zapadnobelorusskaya Atlantis" was to be held today.

The main idea of the organizers was to show the September campaign 1939, which was attended by a compound of the Polish Army, which included a significant number of natives of Western Belarus, writes "Novy Chas" .

Also on show vytavke planned and peaceful life in Western Belarus in 1921-1939 years by submitting original photographs, documents and artifacts of the time. Visitors to the museum would be able to see the forms of the officers of the Polish Army, a soldier and a sailor Infantry Regiment Pinsk river flotilla. Only exposure was 300 items, most of which are originals.

But all of these things, which the historian Igor Melnikov on their funds collected for years, as it turned out, marginalize the role of the Soviet Union, whose legal successor is Belarus, and thus diminish the role of Belarus.

That such a conclusion is made ​​Ruslan TRUKHAN , Head of ideological work, culture and youth affairs Minoblispolkoma.

In this case, the official (and in the recent past, the main BRSMovets Minsk region) did not study the exhibits and did not talk to Igor Melnikov. He simply did not recommend to the Director of the museum and exhibition center GU "Historical and Cultural Museum-Reserve" Zaslawye " Nicholas Pogranovsky open the exhibition.

Igor Melnikov few months preparing to show his collection a few weeks, along with the museum staff has mounted stands and showcases, bought for their money frames and other necessary things! And this despite the fact that he gave his collection to the museum free of charge and offered, by the way, the exhibition will also make free, but the museum director said that it was impossible, and the estimated cost of the ticket is 15 thousand rubles.

"The exhibition was prepared for almost six months. Its main goal - to show the courage of Belarusian soldiers of the Polish Army, who were the first in Europe, together with the Poles, Hitler said "no."

In September 1939, they have made ​​a step to victory 1945. However, obviously the Belarusian state ideology is a page of our history seems uninteresting. They believe that the Belarusians fought Nazism only the Soviet army uniforms. In fact, our fellow citizens fought with the "brown plague" on various fronts. Fought bravely and selflessly. Strange and, sorry, silly position of our officials because of which such an interesting historical project and opened at Zaslaul. But I hope so. that, nevertheless, there is another way to introduce history buffs with my collection. By the way, I'm open to suggestions " - commented Igor Melnikov.

Director of the Research ICHM "Zaslawye" Nikolay Pogranovsky said that the opening of the exhibition is delayed for technical reasons. And the question is not whether the ban is due TRUKHAN, Nikolay said that he can not comment on it and asked to call after 15.00.

Ruslan I. TRUKHAN also agreed to comment on the situation until after 15.00.