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Suqit posted:I still have and my daughter still uses my first gen iPad every single day. Poor girl 
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As a 7'2" male with an 11 inch penis you can imagine my phone needs are never really satiated do to the puny nature of smartphones.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:25
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TVs Ian posted:I'd imagine if you look at the sales of the Galaxy line you'd probably have an answer. They make a Mini that's roughly the same size as the iPhone 5, but it's way outsold by the base model, Note, and Mega versions. It isn't a fair comparison because the Mini Galaxy phones are always really low quality relative to the big ones. Only Sony makes a non-compromised big flagship and mini version, and they're basically not available in the U.S. so who knows how they'd sell here.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:25
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RVProfootballer posted:Poor girl lol Santa may bring her a new one if she's good this year...
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Sep 10, 2014 16:26
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I can't wait for the new phones, but I'm going to hold them in store before deciding between the 6 and 6+. I like the idea of an all in one device that replaces my ipad, but not if it's too big to be practical to carry at all times.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:27
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Suqit posted:Apparently you can double tap the home button to bring that <Sean to the bottom And yet Nilay Patel is convinced he won't ever use that feature because he can totally reach "across the entire display." I just don't get that kind of...fawning? delusion? I don't know. Apple admits it's too big by including that feature, why insist that no, my thumb is totally like 6" long, no problem man.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:28
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TVs Ian posted:I'd imagine if you look at the sales of the Galaxy line you'd probably have an answer. They make a Mini that's roughly the same size as the iPhone 5, but it's way outsold by the base model, Note, and Mega versions.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:30
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vyst posted:As a 7'2" male with an 11 inch penis you can imagine my phone needs are never really satiated do to the puny nature of smartphones. 
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kitten smoothie posted:The ISIS secure element is in the SIM because it's the part of the chain the carriers control for sure, and they didn't want to lose control and whatever revenue stream that could be skimmed off it. ISIS and the carriers did not have the keys to write data to the secure element built into the Nexus devices, which is why they blocked Wallet. Maybe I am wrong on this but it seems the issue with Google is they are getting hosed on both ends, that the major banks won't certify the secure element they have access to for mobile NFC tokens, that before the A8 the only place any major bank has certified for mobile NFC tokens is the SIM cards and the SIM cards are unquestionably the pure domain of the carriers, I think even the physical property of the carriers. I don' think the banks are really colluding with the carriers to block Google, it's that before Apple they haven't really trusted anything, not even the SIM card secure element in most many cases. If the only place they will certify is the SIM card the effect on Google is probably the same but it is probably within the carrier's right to say stay off the SIM card. I'm not saying the carriers aren't being assholes and aren't blocking access without ulterior motives but the banks are probably as much to blame as the carriers, no doubt that Isis has been begging Bank of America, Citi and Capital One for a long, long time for token access. I don't think the carriers factor in at all with ApplePay, Apple isn't telling anyone to piss up a rope, it's that Apple had the clout to go to the banks and get them to agree that the A8 was secure and issue them tokens which is something that even Isis has had limited luck with.
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TVs Ian posted:I'd imagine if you look at the sales of the Galaxy line you'd probably have an answer. They make a Mini that's roughly the same size as the iPhone 5, but it's way outsold by the base model, Note, and Mega versions. That's because it's actually kind of poo poo. quote:Under the hood is a dual-core 1.7GHz Snapdragon 400, a clear downgrade from any of the original GS4's chipset options. NFC, Bluetooth, IR and WiFi are all included as well, though 802.11ac isn't an option here. The Mini also features a scant 8GB of internal storage, which doesn't leave much room for your own personal enjoyment, especially after you take into account both the OS and Samsung's TouchWiz UI. The lack of good quality smaller phones is a common complaint in the Android community, and until very recently they simply did not exist. The "mini" phones are almost always a downgrade from the larger models.
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vyst posted:I'm still of the mind that the market they are pushing hard (health and fitness) is going to completely reject this product simply because the watch does not do what it needs to do without a tether to an iphone. There's supposedly an "offline" mode in which the watch will still track your fitness and do various other things and will then sync that data with your iPhone as soon as they're connected again.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:33
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RVProfootballer posted:And yet Nilay Patel is convinced he won't ever use that feature because he can totally reach "across the entire display." I just don't get that kind of...fawning? delusion? I don't know. Apple admits it's too big by including that feature, why insist that no, my thumb is totally like 6" long, no problem man. All suspicions will be proven right if during their Note 4 review they mention how it's too big for their hands, but then when I hold this 3DS XL sized phone it's totally perfect. quote:The lack of good quality smaller phones is a common complaint in the Android community, and until very recently they simply did not exist. The "mini" phones are almost always a downgrade from the larger models. I can see Sony trying to nudge back into this market. They are literally the only ones other than Apple that have a mini version of their phones on par with their flagship bigphones.
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A little more detail about the "Reachability" feature. One big potential issue: after hitting a button, it goes back to normal display. I imagine this might be something they tweak, but it would really kill the ease of use if you actually use it frequently.ars technica posted:We’ll need to spend more time with it, but Reachability feels like a compromise right out of the gate. It’s a necessary concession to reality—iOS relies overwhelmingly on navigation buttons kept in the upper-left and upper-right corners of the screen. These were reachable with one hand on 3.5- and 4-inch screens. They are emphatically not reachable on either iPhone 6. Android and Windows Phone both solve the problem by putting a hardware or software Back button at the bottom of the screen, an element that has been criticized for its inconsistency but generally gets the job done.
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Three Olives posted:Maybe I am wrong on this but it seems the issue with Google is they are getting hosed on both ends, that the major banks won't certify the secure element they have access to for mobile NFC tokens, that before the A8 the only place any major bank has certified for mobile NFC tokens is the SIM cards and the SIM cards are unquestionably the pure domain of the carriers, I think even the physical property of the carriers. I don' think the banks are really colluding with the carriers to block Google, it's that before Apple they haven't really trusted anything, not even the SIM card secure element in most many cases. If the only place they will certify is the SIM card the effect on Google is probably the same but it is probably within the carrier's right to say stay off the SIM card. Google Wallet had Citibank as a bank and Mastercard as a card brand on board back in 2011, but they didn't get any further than that. Perhaps it was because every carrier but Sprint kept making GBS threads on any attempt to distribute the app and it wasn't worth the effort to negotiate any further.
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Logikv9 posted:I can see Sony trying to nudge back into this market. They are literally the only ones other than Apple that have a mini version of their phones on par with their flagship bigphones. Yeah the Xperia Z3 compact looks really, really good. It's a shame that it'll probably see a limited release in the US.
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RVProfootballer posted:A little more detail about the "Reachability" feature. One big potential issue: after hitting a button, it goes back to normal display. I imagine this might be something they tweak, but it would really kill the ease of use if you actually use it frequently. An easier solution would be to not make the phone absurdly large.
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah the Xperia Z3 compact looks really, really good. It's a shame that it'll probably see a limited release in the US. Does Sony even do contract phones for any carrier? A MIRACLE posted:So will the 5s magically become cheaper when the 6 drops?
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Sep 10, 2014 16:40
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Wengy posted:There's supposedly an "offline" mode in which the watch will still track your fitness and do various other things and will then sync that data with your iPhone as soon as they're connected again. The gps is what we want not the other stuff. If the watch doesn't have gps you can't measure pace or distance without the iPhone.
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BGrifter posted:An easier solution would be to not make the phone absurdly large. This is what Steve would have wanted. Here he is wishing his iPad could make telephone calls. 
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mango sentinel posted:Does Sony even do contract phones for any carrier? I think T-Mobile has the Xperia Z1s but I'm not sure. And wow, the z3 compact really does look fantastic. Dustproof and waterproof, drat.
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RVProfootballer posted:This is what Steve would have wanted. Here he is wishing his iPad could make telephone calls. My phone is too loving huge to make calls; good thing I can just use this watch I'm wearing to call people!
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So what's the story with the "c" line? Is the idea that it only comes out in tandem with "s" releases, so the current 6 will be the 6c in a year? Maybe they'll just scrap the whole thing.
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Holding my 3ds XL vertically, I can easily reach all around the screen area with my thumb one handed. Not everyone has tiny lady hands. I can also use a Note one handed with no problem. These journalists aren't part of some #Applegate conspiracy. 
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Big City Drinkin posted:So what's the story with the "c" line? Is the idea that it only comes out in tandem with "s" releases, so the current 6 will be the 6c in a year? Maybe they'll just scrap the whole thing. Literally no one here could know this.
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maduin posted:My phone is too loving huge to make calls; good thing I can just use this watch I'm wearing to call people! aaaaaand the trap springs shut on us all. We're all doomed to a future of Apple Watches compensating for the crappy new iPhones aren't we?  Maybe it's time to embrace this bold new direction for Apple. Coming soon: the Apple PenFone, it's a pennnnn and a phoooooone.
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A MIRACLE posted:So will the 5s magically become cheaper when the 6 drops?
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Bottom Liner posted:Holding my 3ds XL vertically, I can easily reach all around the screen area with my thumb one handed. Not everyone has tiny lady hands. I can also use a Note one handed with no problem. These journalists aren't part of some #Applegate conspiracy. Same. I love my Note 3 and would hate going back to a smaller phone.
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the kawaiiest posted:I think T-Mobile has the Xperia Z1s but I'm not sure. These seem incredible.
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Jmcrofts posted:Same. I love my Note 3 and would hate going back to a smaller phone. Hold your phone in your right hand how you normally would and type one-handed on the keyboard, maybe press the home button. Stop typing and without moving your hand, reach the top left corner of the screen. If you can do that, please measure your thumb length and tell us if you can palm a basketball. the kawaiiest posted:I think T-Mobile has the Xperia Z1s but I'm not sure. I'm really not a fan of the glass back, but otherwise it does seem really nice.
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Just anecdotally it seems like the 5C has had a really long tail, as the year has gone on I've started to see more and more of them in the wild.
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TVs Ian posted:I'd imagine if you look at the sales of the Galaxy line you'd probably have an answer. They make a Mini that's roughly the same size as the iPhone 5, but it's way outsold by the base model, Note, and Mega versions.
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Josh Lyman posted:Isn't the Mini cheaper though? Entry level Androids outsell the premium ones, IIRC.
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Josh Lyman posted:Isn't the Mini cheaper though? Entry level Androids outsell the premium ones, IIRC. http://news.yahoo.com/apple-samsung-dominate-list-top-10-best-selling-100853996.html
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Suqit posted:Apparently you can double tap the home button to bring that <Sean to the bottom edit: Actually sorry there was a year where the poor early adoptors of the 5 were on iOS 6 can iirc had to tap the top left corner. I never had one. nebby fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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RVProfootballer posted:Hold your phone in your right hand how you normally would and type one-handed on the keyboard, maybe press the home button. Stop typing and without moving your hand, reach the top left corner of the screen. If you can do that, please measure your thumb length and tell us if you can palm a basketball. Seriously if you have anything above average sized hands it's not an issue.
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Josh Lyman posted:Isn't the Mini cheaper though? Entry level Androids outsell the premium ones, IIRC. The Mini is cheaper, and when I was still selling phones instead of fixing them, that was the only reason people bought them. Most people preferred the bigger ones, I can only think of one or two times somebody wanted it specifically for the size. And while they do have lower specs, the Mega versions do too, and those seem to sell a decent number. I assume the specs are lower on those so they can sell a 6-inch phone for the same price as the base model. I wonder how that curved edge on the glass will hold up on the iPhone 6. They said the glass is reinforced, but I think having the edges exposed like that may result in a few shattered screens (based on seeing a lot of broken S3 screens). Which is good for me really, since 95% of my business right now is fixing busted Apple screens.
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RVProfootballer posted:Hold your phone in your right hand how you normally would and type one-handed on the keyboard, maybe press the home button. Stop typing and without moving your hand, reach the top left corner of the screen. If you can do that, please measure your thumb length and tell us if you can palm a basketball. I can't hit the top left corner, but I'm not sure why I'd have to, the back button is right by my thumb.
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vyst posted:I'm still of the mind that the market they are pushing hard (health and fitness) is going to completely reject this product simply because the watch does not do what it needs to do without a tether to an iphone. 
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