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Irish Joe posted:I've hated this episode since before it was written. I can't stand all the relentless negativity in this thread,  Trin Tragula posted:Full explanation of what all this means is in the Deep Breath thread. TL;DR, it's all fine, chill out, people are still watching and loving the show. May I ask, if anyone knows, why iPlayer is excluded from the ratings calculations? Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 13, 2014 |
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I wasn't really sure what I was expecting and now I'm not really sure what to think. I think I might need to rewatch this one to decide. However, I would've liked the scene on Gallifrey better if it had ended with David Bradley in character as One poking his head over the edge of duvet to watch the TARDIS dematerialise.
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Sep 13, 2014 20:57
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I guess the moral of the story is that Moffat knows that, whatever we may think of it, the Hugo Awards people eat this kind of thing up, right?
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Psybro posted:I've just rewatched a bit of Earthshock, and it seems to me that in context it represents a real change in how the show worked. Probably the ultimate example of Saward's preferred formula/template. It's either this one or "Resurrection of the Daleks".
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Sep 15, 2014 01:47
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The discussion reminds me of something I read on some blog around the time Capaldi was cast (maybe a little while after, or maybe a little while before) and people were talking about casting a woman as the Doctor - at some point Moffat had said there's no reason it couldn't happen in the future, and some plonker on this blog was having a right whinge about "Steven Moffat's feminist agenda", which just goes to show... something? Honestly, I've no idea. 
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Sep 15, 2014 16:11
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I think the problem is that the content of (for example) previous interviews Moffat has given and some stories he's written (for more than just Doctor Who - I think there might be a bit of a question mark over the portrayal of Adler in Sherlock) come across as indicating that he at least has issues with women. I'm extremely reluctant to accuse him of being some kind of full-on MRA, malevolent, Elliot Rodger-type misogynist. I've never met him, but my impression of him is that he's genuinely ignorant of how tone-deaf (if that's the right term for it) he sometimes sounds, inculcated by this sort of macho culture he grew up with in Scotland, the boys' club of the BBC where he's worked solidly for almost 20 years, and the purportedly ugly break-up of his first marriage. The point is that it prompts some viewers - with good cause, one might argue - to scrutinise his intentions much more closely than they would if it was any other writer. Perhaps I'm too being charitable but I'm trying my best not to assume the worst about people I've never met. 
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Sep 15, 2014 22:36
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Irish Joe posted:I applaud your restraint in not equating a television writer you don't like to a mass murderer. I'm sorry if I've given the wrong impression. That was a rather impulsively-chosen extreme example and the strongest that came to mind. What I was trying to convey was more along the lines of this part of your previous post: Irish Joe posted:Moffat is a guy who thinks he's more clever than he actually is, not some woman-hating monster using a children's science fiction show to express his contempt for woman-kind.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:48
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There could be a Northern Irish companion, but the subtitles would probably be too expensive.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:48
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Trin Tragula posted:Don't all rush off to buy it at once! Having sold off all my vanilla release DVDs i.e. the "episodes-only" single discs that came out concurrently with the original broadcast) for the first four seasons, I've been meaning to replace them for a while. The options are a) the individual season box sets; b) the season one-to-four set that comes in one of those "horizontal" Universal Playback style boxes; and c) this plus season one. It's hard to decide. Of course, it's all completely speculatory, since I'm between jobs at the moment and nobody's replying to my applications (I'm sure we've all been there). 
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Sep 16, 2014 21:55
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Sobatchja Morda posted:It's the only way to survive what should have been called Not-Buffy and the Pretty Satin-Bottoms versus Yosemite Sam and his Passive-Aggressive Demon. "With their small butts!" Although "Minuet" is pretty bad, I thought Machrosias was entertaining as hell (heh) in it.
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Sep 17, 2014 11:01
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CobiWann posted:Stop with the Scottish referendum panic! You know what they say about Scottish independence: "To lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose."
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Sep 18, 2014 01:50
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Jsor posted:Well, no, but I figured the rules may be a bit more stringent for the highly paid face character of one of their big mainline shows. In the event that Scotland votes Yes, there'll be a certain length of time until it actually becomes independent, during which negotiations will be undertaken to sort out the nuts and bolts of secession. This could take a year or two. Salmond wants to join the EU (I'm not sure if he will arrange an interim referendum on that issue; he should if he's interested in emphasising Scotland's commitment to popular democracy, but he probably won't) and this could conceivably happen as early as next year, if Scotland's membership is fast-tracked and the Spanish do not try to veto it. One of the fundamental principles of the EU is free movement of labour (as an aside, the enduring support for the EU from the leftists and enduring opposition from the rightists is something which has long perplexed me; as Tony Benn said, the Treaty of Rome was the only treaty which "entrenches laissez-faire as its philosophy" - obviously not a topic for this thread, of course), so Capaldi wouldn't have any problems working in the UK. Unless, possibly, the rest of the UK votes to leave the EU in 2017. In that regard, the Scottish referendum is, in many respects, a dry-run for how that would turn out. Better Together's tactics - failing to make a positive case for the union (the only politician who I think did so successfully was Gordon Brown, and he waited until literally the last moment to do it) in favour of trying to argue against independence - will probably be repeated by whoever is running the "In" campaign and UKIP will probably crush them.
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Sep 18, 2014 11:17
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Android Blues posted:Seven just has so many good lines. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but another candidate might be his conversation with Davros in Remembrance of the Daleks. "Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding! Etcetera, etcetera!" "Let me guess. My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie."
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Sep 19, 2014 01:07
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Little_wh0re posted:Occ's thread thought: would people say that where he is is the lowest point of revival who Year of specials. Perhaps I'm just less enamoured of "The Waters of Mars" than everyone else.
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Sep 19, 2014 11:24
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Parts of it were fun, and I enjoyed Capaldi's performance. I enjoyed Keeley Hawes but thought she was maybe a bit wasted. I probably wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again, but nor would I go out of my way to avoid it. Good, not great.
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Sep 20, 2014 20:44
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Brett824 posted:I wouldn't mind it if they at all backed it up or made the viewer actually feel like it was the most secure bank. To be honest, there were two security guards and a brain melting monster and that was about it for security. Rather like the Shadow Proclomation in "Journey's End", really.
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Sep 21, 2014 15:58
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ashez2ashes posted:This is totally random but Clara's outfit was a job interview outfit, not an outfit for a date. It'd be different if she'd just worn it to work and not on purpose for a romantic evening. Sheesh girl, I know you're beautiful but even you have to dress for the situation. On the topic of the outfit, I believe this was the costume she was wearing in one of the early production photos which had everyone commenting on how much she looked like Lis Sladen, right?
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Sep 21, 2014 20:56
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I've heard it was an over-reaction on Moffat's part to criticism of the pacing in season six.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:51
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I have what may be a rather strange request - has anybody ever heard a recording of Terry Molloy reciting the opening soliloquy from Richard III in character as Davros?
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Sep 23, 2014 01:30
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, it's remarkable just how good it is considering it's such an early Big Finish, but it really does feel like a natural extension of their televised adventures. It's too bad that, aside from "The Fires of Vulcan" and "Collditz" (off the top of my head), none of Seven's audio stories out of the first fifty are entirely up to snuff. I don't think they achieve the same degree of consistency as, say, Six's adventures, until Hex arrives in "The Harvest".
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Sep 24, 2014 15:36
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CobiWann posted:Yeah, they bounce around between Seven and Mel doing a drama The Fires of Vulcan, a comedy Bang-Bang-A-Boom!, and a story with a unique plotting style and really uncomfortable immigrant overtones Flip Flop. "Bang-Bang-A-Boom!" and "Flip-Flop" would have been very good if the former had been able to decide what it was actually trying to parody, and the latter had cut out a lot of the subtext surrounding the Poor, Blind Slithergees.
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Sep 24, 2014 16:32
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Potsticker posted:Bang Bang A Boom needed funnier jokes. There were a couple, but by and large everything that was supposed to be funny fell completely flat. I think the worst part was the Wogan impressionist.
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Sep 24, 2014 20:44
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I thought it was fun. I would watch it again.
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Sep 27, 2014 21:57
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Jerusalem posted:Turns out the Master was just trying to settle in for the night to watch the cricket and maybe have some lovely biscuits with his cup of tea. "EAT THE FUCKIN' CHEESE, MASTER!"
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Sep 27, 2014 23:15
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Bicyclops posted:I actually think the interaction between Danny and the Doctor worked precisely because Danny basically calls him out on being an old white guy calling the shots and criticizing him. The Doctor's being mad at soldiers regardless of their history or the sort of person they are is a commentary on the sort of well-meaning but wealthy individual yelling at someone with less privilege than they have about their life choices. In this analogy, the Doctor is a socialist university student with wealthy parents, and Danny is an actual working class person who voted for UKIP in the last election.  Jerusalem posted:I do not like Flip Flop. The bad guys essentially win either way, and Puxatornee is doomed to be either a) trapped forever in a permanent nuclear winter or b) basically beholden to the whims of the Slithergees. Which disc did you listen to first? I listened to the black side first, and while I realise it's meant to work either way, I feel as though the white side might be a better one to start with.
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Sep 29, 2014 11:45
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I don't believe there is; the efficacy of listening to the white side first is just my own opinion.
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Sep 29, 2014 11:57
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Gaz-L posted:From Occupation's thread: I probably whinged about that more than anyone (I was kind of an expert, you see, because I had an A-level politics text book and everything  ), but I've grown up enough to realise it was no big deal.The "president-elect" bit was still a bit lazy, though. It's not like Wikipedia didn't exist in 2007 and you couldn't look these things up.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:07
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Irish Joe posted:The British equivalent of Susan B Anthony is rolling in her grave. Nah, that's Emmeline Pankhurst. Unless I'm missing a joke, I suppose.
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Oct 1, 2014 22:41
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I thought it was okay. I liked last week's episode a lot better. I don't think I'd go out of my way to watch this one again.
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Majorian posted:Sure, but I don't see why this should qualify, given the magnitude of the underlying point to the episode. The difference between the examples you mentioned and this one is, there wasn't much of a deeper point lying beneath the farting aliens episode. I've heard it was meant to be about Iraq or something.
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Jerusalem posted:He's independently wealthy and uses his money to produce horrible looking fanfiction films, some gifs of which I don't doubt somebody will now post. In his defense, though he often overstates or plays up his impact, he was responsible for saving or finding at least some of the "lost" episodes of Who, though he appeared to go batshit insane over the last couple of years when the rumors of the mysterious giant find of lost episodes started going around. To be completely fair, I'm given to understand that the extent of how many episodes were lost only started to become widely known when Levine got in touch with the Beeb to ask if he could copy their master tapes to fill in gaps in his collection, then spilled the beans when he learned they no longer had them. Surprised you didn't mention his crowning achievement, though.
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ewe2 posted:It's just bafflegab, deal with it. Oh, spack off. ( )
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marktheando posted:Yeah. Abortion is really not a controversial topic over here- aside from a few old conservative fossils and religious lunatics nobody thinks abortion should be banned. The last parliamentary vote on the topic had a vast majority of all political parties vote in favour of the status quo, in favour of abortion rights. Except in Northern Ireland, of course, but we have been 50 to 100 years behind the rest of the country since we started. I mean, of course there's a very active pro-life movement in the UK, but they don't really have the same degree of influence with any of the political parties the way their counterparts do in parts of (for example) the United States. It's an issue but it isn't a decisive issue in the same way it often seems to be across the water. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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marktheando posted:I was ignoring Northern Ireland, as is traditional. Yeah our main parties are pretty much united on the great wedge issues of American politics- god (don't talk about it) gays (pro gay rights) and guns (strict gun control). Our main parties are usually united on the issues of rioting, stonewalling, protesting, and sponging off Westminster. The political parties of Northern Ireland have elevated base pettiness to an art form, and the only reason people put up with it is that it is an improvement on the previous situation, when the electability of your candidate was often directly proportional to how many police officers they'd shot.
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I enjoyed this episode a lot. I'd watch it again.
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Oct 11, 2014 21:42
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Jet Jaguar posted:Been listening to old Big Finish episodes and today's was Dust Breeding. The pseudo-companion in that one, Bev Terrant, I think she is--it sounds like she's in at least one previous episode but does she show up in any more? She was in "The Genocide Machine" and I think she was later a recurring character in the Bernice Summerfield audio plays. After The War posted:To be sure, while it is the Robert Holmesiest episode to come from Robert Holmes and is wonderfully acted and directed, it's meant to cap off Davison's run, particularly his last season. For a while I've thought of it as an Eric Saward formula episode written by Robert Holmes.
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Oct 14, 2014 11:05
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marktheando posted:After being a bland non-character for ages, Clara is finally good now so I am glad she's still around. I have to share something: there's one guy on another forum I sometimes visit who was recently (after "The Caretaker", I think) complaining that he hates Clara now because she "was more interesting when she was a puzzle to solve" and now she's "nothing but a bunch of character traits".
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MrL_JaKiri posted:All life shall perish under the reign of Sutekh the Destroyer! "Evil? Your evil is my good. I am Sutekh the Destroyer. Where I tread I leave nothing but dust and darkness. I find that good."
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thexerox123 posted:The episode title is a reference to the William Blake poem The Tyger. And we did see a tiger in the preview for the episode! I was sitting in work earlier trying to puzzle out where I recognised the title from. Up until I realised it was the Blake poem, I kept thinking it was a reference to that one Billy Joel song, which seemed a bit odd.
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