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Clara was asked to think about "the time she had that nightmare", but ended up going back to the time Pink had it instead because she was thinking about him. I guess at the end she did the same thing only with the Doctor. I think I'm ok with the childhood scene, it further establishes The Doctor as an outcast rather than some space messiah.
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I do quite like the implication that The Doctor is always scared, but trying to use that to his advantage.PriorMarcus posted:Yes, it is.
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Sep 13, 2014 21:16
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Wolfechu posted:Re: "Doctor's Childhood" scene, I personally feel that if you're going to have a story in which the Doctor is obsessing about this dream of someone grabbing your ankles, you end up kinda needing a scene like that to show where the obsession is coming from.
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Sep 14, 2014 18:01
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The Clara jokes serve a clear purpose - they show that 12 is excessively honest, and can't help but speak his mind. They are getting a bit grating but I can't see any malicious aspect to it at all, he seems to just be thinking aloud.
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Sep 14, 2014 21:23
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Stealthweasel posted:That's the thing, the implication that it's some unspoken truth that Clara is ugly/fat/whatever is kind of unpleasant (particularly for a family show). Stealthweasel posted:And the first one was within seconds of being introduced to him in a professional environment where they were going to be working together. How does she even have a job? 
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Sep 14, 2014 22:01
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Shugojin posted:It's pretty good that there is a plausible explanation for everything but the bed critter's face. People said SOMETHING BROKE THE AIR SHIELD but that doesn't have to be the case. Maybe it was broken all along and Orson's note was a reminder to himself not to commit suicide in the vacuum at night.
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Sep 15, 2014 06:10
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Maybe The Doctor was raised by non-Galifrayans? Also I thought his species was 'Time Lord' until now, didn't realize you had to qualify to be one.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:30
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Plavski posted:Remember when the Master was taken to stare into the Untempered Schism to join the Time Lord academy? DoctorWhat posted:This has been a longstanding point of contention.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:16
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Pizdec posted:Hell, maybe that's the point. This Doctor is honestly kind of an rear end in a top hat in general and maybe the character arc this season will be about him re-learning in his new body/mind that your companion is also a trusted comrade and a friend and maybe you should treat them a bit different than a (supposedly) robot Robin Hood.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:35
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I don't really care about the opening, just give me back the middle 8 in the credits.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:29
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I think the lack of budget hurt this one a bit. The monster was decent but just him and a couple of dudes with guns didn't really sell me on "THE MOST ADVANCED SECURITY IN THE GALAXY"
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Sep 20, 2014 21:34
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Actually I think The Teller was really good for a one-off monster, it had two simple but terrifying abilities with a good thematic link, and its design/name worked well with them. Its motivation is perhaps a little too similar to the one in Hide, but the creature working under duress fitted in well with the episode.
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Sep 20, 2014 23:10
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Have they introduced rules on Sonic Screwdriver usage? I like that none of the episodes this season has been resolved by it.
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Sep 21, 2014 13:01
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Brett824 posted:I wouldn't mind it if they at all backed it up or made the viewer actually feel like it was the most secure bank. To be honest, there were two security guards and a brain melting monster and that was about it for security. And maybe the monster would have caught them a lot faster if it weren't for the memory wipe.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:18
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No, it was about being in the right place at the right time and the Doctor said he'd have no chance in hell of getting the TARDIS into the vault during the solar storm, hence the heist plan. Just popping in any old time would create a paradox because it's a stable time loop involving his own timeline. The only timeloop in this episode was the phonecall.
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Sep 22, 2014 16:05
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Even if she didn't specifically tell him the best time to come "The Architect" could have easily traveled a bit into the future and checked when solar flares had occurred (it might even have been in the TARDIS memory banks). Knowing when a natural event is about to happen is trivially easy for a timetraveler.
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Sep 22, 2014 17:47
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re: TARDIS precision, I always assumed that the issue was that the TARDIS has a will of its own. So if The Doctor tries to do something normal (like sightseeing) it rebels and takes him somewhere it regards as interesting, such as an alien attack. In cases where The Doctor really needs to get something right it's normally dead-on.
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Sep 22, 2014 18:17
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How do they keep leaking scripts and videos in advance? Is it deliberate?
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Sep 23, 2014 20:22
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I'm actually quite hopeful for the Missy storyline, forcing The Doctor to meet up with people who died (or at least, would have died) due to him seems pretty interesting. It hasn't been very well-handled so far though. Come to think of it in Time Heist we had two people who we thought were disintegrated but who actually teleported, that seems like another hint.
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Sep 24, 2014 04:19
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I think you may be reading too much into a throwaway joke.
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Sep 24, 2014 13:12
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If you look at their character motivations they aren't really similar at all, but they just feel really similar due to the "authoritative but kindof playful" exterior that they all have.
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ProfessorLoomis posted:Seriously, save your breath. You're going up against a viscous hive-mind in this thread. They've formed a little clique in here, and dissenting opinions are met with holier than thou responses. For the record, I'm not so much a Moffat defender these days. That really doesn't account for why I come in here and snipe a little insult every now and then. Honestly, there's so much loving fake altruism and hot air in this thread, it makes me not even wanna be a Doctor Who fan. I keep coming back here though, every couple of days, to see if anyone had anything loving interesting or useful to say about the episode, and all i ever see is morons whining about literally every little loving thing. Even some of you who started pretty cool a year or two ago, now have just as big a stick up your asses as everyone else. It's like you guys hobby is loving finding anything that could be remotely construed as immoral/racist, then acting like white loving knights toward anyone who says otherwise. gently caress it, I typed this out, I'm posting it.  there's more than one of them .
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Sep 26, 2014 01:44
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That was pretty decent, the alien threat was underdeveloped but that wasn't really the point of the episode. I wouldn't mind having Pink as a second assistant (to be more of a dissenting voice/straight man), I assumed he was going to insist on joining them at the end of the episode.Payndz posted:This episode had some (mildly) amusing moments, but it's cemented something that's been developing all season: the show's become The Misadventures Of Clara rather than Doctor Who. This week, Clara has a big date with her hunky co-worker, but her wacky time-travelling
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Sep 27, 2014 23:17
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I strongly suspect it's a sham afterlife. In Into the Dalek we had The Doctor pick someone up just as they were about to die, and in Time Heist we had people getting teleported instead of killed as well. They might just be collecting Doctor "victims" and no-one else.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:56
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RunAndGun posted:True. I wonder if they will ever do a pure character episode, with no actual Threat whatsoever. (Maybe they thinking there was a Threat, but it turned out to be a squirrel or something. And I don't think Edge of Destruction would qualify.)
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Sep 28, 2014 06:50
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My guess: they're a couple of assholes with a teleporter and some way of following and watching The Doctor. The ultimate plan is to kidnap him, but in such a way that he doesn't realize he's been kidnapped. They can do this by acting like he's in the afterlife and introducing him to a bunch of people he "knows" are dead. The Master might try a plan like that because he doesn't want to kill The Doctor, he just wants to toy with and control him.
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Sep 28, 2014 11:55
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I'm pretty sure 10 and 11 didn't like soldiers either, I vaguely remember a few scenes where they criticize them. It's just that the plot of this season and the more abrasive nature of 12 have pushed it more to the forefront. e: also it's been literally hundreds of years since The Doctor knew the Brig, do you not think it's possible for someone's views to change in that time? He could just have him down as an exception to a rule. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 19:02
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Cliff Racer posted:The anti-militarism that Doctor Who rather constantly puts off is very off-putting to me, to be honest. Are we really supposed to believe that having a pro-active military is a bad thing in a universe where there were something like 30 times in 50 years where all that stood between Earth and its total conquest was one man in a silly outfit? What if the silly outfit man was sick one time or off on another planet? We'd be totally hosed without Danny Pinks and Lethbridge-Stewarts. e: wrong christmas special Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 23:32
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Looking forward to an episode where the antagonists are a human army attacking aliens
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SirSamVimes posted:I figured its targetting systems were all hosed up from so long being dormant, hence why it was an awful shot.
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Sep 29, 2014 01:28
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Yeah I think the racial implication may have been intentional. Not to say that The Doctor is supposed to be racist, but having it as old white man/young black man helps sell the "officer criticizing soldiers" idea that Danny brought up. Regardless though I think this is kindof a stupid criticism because the logical conclusion is "black people should not be allowed to portray certain characters"
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Sep 29, 2014 15:37
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And 12 is definitely the first Doctor who could be described as a manchild.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:55
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The Doctor has also stressed that the TARDIS is much better than the other forms of time travel seen in the series (like Jack's watch), so it may be that there are lots of extra limitations that apply to non-Time Lord technology.Big Mean Jerk posted:You're missing the point. The character isn't a manchild, the people writing his characterization are. Or at least, that's what their writing makes them come off as.
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Sep 30, 2014 01:52
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Yeah I think for his screentime Danny is pretty well developed. Incidentally we also know he's brave enough to draw the fire of and do a front-flip over an alien super-weapon. That could easily be related to The Doctor's advice in Listen to use fear to your advantage.
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Oct 3, 2014 02:29
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Barry Foster posted:Well, no, to be honest. He hasn't been that morally ambiguous since the sixties. Yes, I know they bring up the Hitler parallel and that, but it felt disingenuous, and out of context with the general tone of the show. In any case I don't think he's really been presented as morally bad this season. He can be rude and insensitive, but his moral decisions and actions have seemed sound outside of this episode (and maybe Into the Dalek).
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Oct 5, 2014 01:11
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I don't think Capaldi is really "darker". Morally he's in about the same place as previous Doctors. The difference is that he's frank and honest about what he's thinking and feeling. I disagree that they haven't been examining The Doctor well this season - every episode so far has explored an aspect of his personality or worldview, and I've found those elements quite interesting. The bigger issue for me is that several of the threats have been pretty weak.
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Oct 5, 2014 16:32
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I think they should have made it clear that the "shell" would be harmless from the start, so that the question becomes "is it OK to pre-emptively kill the creature in case it wants to attack us". That would have made the theme more coherent, since that's basically the decision they were discussing.
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Oct 5, 2014 16:42
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I know it was in the show. I guess I mean that having it being about the creature's motives would have emphasized the (interesting) subjective moral aspect of the decision and sidelined the (rather distracting and unrealistic) objective physics aspect.
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I don't think it's an abortion analogy, and in any case women did get to make the decision. Like I guess that's there on a superficial level, but the whole "pre-emptively strike an unknown target with nukes" element and the overall themes of the series makes me think it's more of a military thing.
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