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ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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revmoo posted:

Yeah so I'm a big dummy. Anyway I have this unit and I'm actually pretty impressed except for one critical issue; the keystone adjustment leaves behind shaded areas that outline the display area.

Is this a common problem? I don't recall seeing this issue on any other projector in the past, but it's completely awful. For all I know it's a config setting somehow, but pushing brightness to zero doesn't make it go away.

I'll happily order the W1070 on Monday if it means I don't have this lovely keystone effect.

If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

You bought a business projector. It is designed to sit on a table and project a bright, readable image on a screen. It doesn't have lens adjustments because it is a BUSINESS PROJECTOR. The projector you bought, and most other business projectors, adjust for angle by setting some of the pixels to black and smashing the rest of the image down into an area that looks square from whatever angle it is sitting out. You lose a significant amount of resolution, but maintain brightness.

If you had done any research or, I dunno, read the last three pages, you might realize that many home theatre projectors, of which the BenQ w1070 is a sterling example, have built in lens adjustments that allow you to adjust for a certain range of angles without losing resolution

Then again, you probably won't read this either, so :getout:

ShotgunWillie fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 20, 2014

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ShotgunWillie
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sellouts posted:

Maybe this will help him, it is the first google result for "how keystone adjustment works".

http://www.theprojectorpros.com/learn-s-learn-p-keystone_correction.htm

Dude, it's obvious he doesn't know how to use google. What makes you think an article with big words, like "digital" could help?

ShotgunWillie
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revmoo posted:

Yeah so that was a result of the ghetto placement I did yesterday just to play some video games. I set it at table level and the keystone issues are gone. The projector actually works really, really nice and I like it alot...

HOWEVER, the mounts are totally stupid and I can't get the mount kit I bought to connect to it at all. I'd probably be willing to get a different unit but I have one concern; this projector which is supposedly blindingly bright is what I would call adequate. I'm very concerned that if I switch to a "cinema" projector it's not going to be bright enough with the blinds open. I think in this case I'm willing to trade picture quality for brightness, as I want to be able to use this thing in bright daylight for tv watching. Compounding this quandary is the fact that apparently manufacturers all lie on their lumen output levels. So I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to shop for another unit without being able to know how bright it is.

If closing your blinds is an issue, consider a regular TV. I hear you can get great deals on CRTs these days! GREAT for gaming.

ShotgunWillie
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King Hotpants posted:

It's like I'm talking to a wall.

Let's all stop feeding the troll.

ShotgunWillie
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wolfbiker posted:

I have the W1070 and it's in a tight space as well, I ended up getting a right angle HDMI connector so it would fit. Maybe that would work for you. Also the W1070 seems pretty tiny to me, I can't imagine there would be (m)any that are much smaller than it.

This. Get some right angle connectors and you should be fine. The W1070 is remarkably small for a projector of its type and quality.

ShotgunWillie
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jonathan posted:

So in planning my revision of my dedicated theater, I'm considering having the projector placed on/in a piece of furniture instead of being ceiling mounted. As some of you know I have pretty good bass capability and around 10hz I tend to knock the projector off aim. It's not just a mount issue, I'm moving the entire ceiling.

Anyways, I'm thinking I could do individual chairs upfront with a table in between that houses the projector, and use my existing reclining sofa as the rear row, possibly on a riser. But I havent run a projector this way and not sure of the downsides.

I can't imagine that having the projector on a table on the floor, secured only by gravity, would be MORE secure than on a high quality, screwed in ceiling mount.

At 10hz, are you sure it isn't your eyeballs vibrating?

ShotgunWillie
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If I have the budget, is there a reason not to get a projector like the Epson 5025UB over the BenQ HT1075?

The layout of my room is a little complex and it has coffered ceilings, which makes placement a bit complex, especially combined with my less than square walls. It seems that the Epson is much more flexible with screen sizes and lens shift. Plus, free lamp with the current rebates.

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King Hotpants posted:

No. The 5025 is a superior projector.

News for the thread: I'm officially out of the projector business. For those who guessed: yes, I worked at Projector Central.

Thanks. Sorry about your job?

ShotgunWillie
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Somewhat Heroic posted:

Anyone smarter than myself have an idea for a good option? Looking around it seems like the BenQ might be the best given my space constraints. That Epson 5025 wouldn't be out of my budget and I would be willing to go for that if it is that much better but I think it might have too large of a picture at the distance I will be from the screen.

I just ordered it. One of the reasons I got it was that it has a much wider zoom range compared to the w1070 and its ilk.

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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Okay, so I ordered an Epson 5025, and it is wonderful. Except for a stuck blue pixel in the lower left.

So I exchange it for a new one. Bootyful.

Except...

Another stuck blue pixel, but now in the center of the screen.

Called Visual Apex and they are out of stock with no ETA for replacement.

I have two options:
1. Apply price of projector to a new replacement from Visual Apex, probably an Epson 5030ub-R
2. Exchange through Epson for a refurb or new 5025UB

What would you do? Why?

ShotgunWillie
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Aeka 2.0 posted:

More lumens and a motorized lens would have me jump for the 35.

Huh?

ShotgunWillie
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teagone posted:

My cousin is going to be building out his home theater soon, and he asked me if the Epson 5030UB was a good projector. Anyone have/used to have that particular model and could comment on it? Is there something better he could get around that price (roughly $2k), or is the 5030UB a solid option?

Have one and love it. Pull the trigger.

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teagone posted:

He's now considering a Sony VPLHW40ES. If you had a choice between the Epson and that Sony, would you still pick the Epson?

Hard choice. I think that the Sony is marginally better reviewed and might have slightly deeper blacks in a perfectly controlled room, but that the Epsons additional brightness makes it more appropriate for a room that is not a completely dedicated home theater. Plus it has rebates for a free lamp!

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Cornjob posted:

A friend of mine who knows nothing about home theater is looking to me for advice. Ive got projector smarts, but the models hes looking at, Im unfamiliar with. Im looking to get some input from the thread. Hes putting in a 123" diagonal 16x9. his layout requires a 184" lens to screen throw. the projector will be on a shelf, about 12" off center of the screen. So basically, he needs a 1.72 throw ratio lens and a projector with vertical and horizontal digital keystone. This eliminates the popular LG LED, The W1070, Epson 5030, and many other popular PJs. He knows keystone compromises, but he has no options. Budget is $2000 for projector. Looking at projector central it looks like the only two machines that meet this criteria are the Epson 3500/3600/3600e and the BenQ HT4050. Both of these are well under his max budget.

So which of those two would be recommended? something else? seems like either one is good choice. maybe it just comes down to rainbow sensitivity on the DLP? any input is appreciated.

Uh, the 1070 and the Epson 5030 both have psychical lens shifts (vertical and vertical/horizontal, respectively) which eliminate the need for keystone.

For instance, I have a 5030 which hangs on my ceiling in line with the TOP of my screen. I can shift the image down to fill the screen without using any keystone; the lens shift keeps it in square. A 12 inch VERTICAL difference should be fine for the lens shift of any of the BenQs, all of which have vertical lens shift.

If you are talking about a 12 inch horizontal offset, the Epson 5030 would have no problem shifting the image over that amount using the horizontal lens shift.

ShotgunWillie
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Cornjob posted:

Good to know. He said 12" but ill verify. It might be more.

Edit: i measured for him. Looks like its actually 21" left of center .

IIRC, the Epson 5030 can horizontal shift like %50 of the final image size to the left or right. 21 inches at that size screen is doable, without using keystone correction.

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Cornjob posted:

awesome. thanks. Im sure i could have figured that out if i read the manual, but if we all read manuals, we wouldnt need the internet. Whats your opinion on the 5030 vs other machines in this price range? W1070, 3600e, HT4050, etc?

I love my 5030, and I think it is the only one of those models with horizontal lens shift. Now that the 5040 is about to come out, you should be able to snag some deals.

ShotgunWillie
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:

So after 5 long years of faithful service my Epson 8700UB has died. I loving love the thing, and would never go back to regular TV for movies and stuff... Unfortunately, it's kind of old and out of production at this point, so I was wondering if any goons could point me in the proper direction of where to find a better/comparable protector that's perhaps more modern. I'd say $1200-1500 is my sweet spot and I've got a throw of about 11-12 feet. Should I just suck it up and get a refurbished unit?

Come check out my 5030ub?

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ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

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My Epson 5030 started shutting down randomly after 4-5 years and 3k hours of bulb use. Lamp light on, flashing power. Either a bulb problem or the mainboard dying.

Epson had a rebate for a free bulb when I bought it originally, so I pulled it out of the closet and popped it in.

Sweet success. What a relief. We live in an apartment and utilize the walls for storage and art, so the projector with a motorized screen has been great. With the surround sound installed, I have only been to the movie theatre twice in the last 5 years.

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