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VaultAggie posted:Kuvira is shaping up to be another pretty cool villain. Wu is annoying as hell though, and hopefully he gets removed from the picture. Really? A paint by numbers militarist general looking to seize control in a lawless region by controlling the bandits? There's nothing cool about it unless there is some complex plan going on in the background, and every season of Korra so far has proved that there isn't. Clearly evil person acts somewhat benevolent, then becomes cartoonishly evil at a certain point. They could surprise us and have Kuvira take over a majority of the Earth kingdom, create a highly effective and regulated police state that the other nations don't like and create a world wide political conflict, but I doubt it. Korra's going to go through her hero's journey to recover her confidence, Kuvira is going to become military dictator and attack the other nations, and Korra will stop her.
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Oct 4, 2014 10:00
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I love how disparaging Toph is about everything. "Yeah, my daughters never really got the hang of metal bending"
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Oct 17, 2014 18:00
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Oh Snapple! posted:There is literally no reason to assume Kuvirah has any goals other than selfish ones. She flatout puts the essence of her character out in the open for everyone to see when she tells Wu that she "always gets what she wants." She has her forces hang banners with her portraits. She sends people to prison camps to be reeducated. She forces Varrick at almost gunpoint to continue extremely dangerous experiments because she sees the power they could provide and wants it for herself (and the show goes to great lengths to express just how hosed up it is that Varrick of all people wants to peace out of that poo poo). She's even immensely receptive to Zhu Li's flattery to her (which is likely to backfire - I don't buy that poo poo as anything other than Zhu Li insuring she can remain near Varrick). You lose all authority as a uniter/benevolent leader when you created massive prison camps to toss anyone who dares to criticize you. Kuvira wants power and control and is brutally crushing anyone who opposes her. I'm pretty sure Kuvira will capture Su Yin, declare her an enemy of the state, and then try to hold a public execution.
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Oct 31, 2014 21:27
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Genocyber posted:I don't like that Varrick is developing a conscience, part of what makes him so great is how he is a completely shameless rogue. Realizing you're about to build a spirit nuke and going "Holy poo poo, no one should have this power" is a pretty reasonable response from a business minded cut-throat like Varrick.
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Oct 31, 2014 21:33
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Mazreal posted:korra will out-debate kuvira into standing down and a more enlightened wu will rule benevolently. heh. It'd be great if they go through the whole formal process of crowning Wu, and then he goes "It's good to be king, but times have changed. Elections this time next year, winner gets to run the country while I maintain the royal mystique!"
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Nov 27, 2014 05:42
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Killer robot posted:I can believe it. Part of being in show business, and in fact a whole lot of other businesses, is smiling and explaining how when the people writing your checks screwed you over it was actually an opportunity for something new and amazing, and how the subpar results you made were your ideal all along. It can be pretty painful for those involved. Shamalayn will be a cautionary tale in film schools starting in the next few years about letting your ego override your own technical abilities. His first 3 movies were pretty good, Sixth Sense and it's ending were a huge cultural topic at the time though now people how come to expect shock twist endings because of him. Then he just kind of...lost it. The Village or whatever was a good idea that he mishandled, Lady in the Water was his personal fairy tale fanfic he wrote himself into as a metaphorical Jesus, the one with the mysterious suicides was hilariously bad, and everyone knows how awful ALTA movie was, like failing first year basic movie making lessons.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:49
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Exclamation Marx posted:It's nice they contrived a situation to make the lovely prince look worthy of being an unelected ruler The Price always seemed like someone who could be the typical "ruler you'd want to have a beer with" and still not actually be a good person to rule. It didn't really come out of nowhere as the season started with him thinking he was the anointed ruler, losing that, forced to be the Prince-in-Exile, and finally had people trying to kill him to keep him from being a threat. That will definitely change someone's outlook on life. As far as the story goes, if he does end up getting the throne I'd expect that they have him set up a parliament or democrat equivalency so he can lay back and be the nice guy on the throne and let serious people handle the business of running an empire.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:08
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Well, it was a good run. Some really big highs, but also some really big lows. AtLA was at its core a kid's cartoon that managed to go beyond the typical attitude most shows did and actually do something more. Korra was probably pitched as a kid's show but it was clearly designed for an older age group given the main cast were all teenagers rather then 10-12 year olds. Brian and Mike gained a lot of good will by making the show seem more 'mature' for lack of a better word, but then also burned a lot of the goodwill pretty quickly with some terrible plot devices. I assume there will be a series of Korra comics or something, because I don't think there's anyway in hell Nick is going to let go of the Avatar franchise so it's not like the creators can take it to another network and get a new series or movie or anything like that. As far as the Korrasami thing goes, it's almost as hilarious to see as when Naruto ended and the shippers lost their loving minds, even calling Kishimoto's office to rant and rave about it. If Nick had been on board with this series for the entire run, it'd definitely have more significance because it would be an actual Nick show that kids could watch rather then the chaotic mess of early leaks, online viewing, and finally Nick going "fine, we'll air it." I think this show will do pretty good on DVD sales because for binge watching each season the plot moves fairly quickly and there's very little "some unrelated stuff happened" episodes. pentyne fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Have the creators commented on the ending at all yet? I'm half assuming Nick told them not to publicly admit to Korrasami to avoid the Fox News controversy bs.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:46
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Akumos posted:Korra should've walked into the portal with Kuvira and kissed her to piss everyone off imo Please, we all know Kuvira is going to share the cell next to Zaheer, he's going to whisper sweet philosophicals into her ear until they decided to break out together and form an anarchic enclave in the middle of nowhere and live off the grid. Torquemadras posted:Nah. I thought the ending of ATLA was disappointing, with not nearly enough magical kungfu. They invented energy bending at the last minute and used it to end the fight with Ozai without Aang having to break his moral code about killing. It would've been nice for it to have been mentioned or referenced prior to that, because it seems like no past Avatar ever bothered with it and Aang was the first to try to do it and it worked perfectly the first time tried. pentyne fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Dec 20, 2014 01:35
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Darth Walrus posted:Just hope they're OK with the possibility of Zaheer walking in on 'em, that's all I'm saying. "How would the two of you like to...fly higher?"
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Dec 20, 2014 04:21
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Stallion Cabana posted:not to like defend the majority of the crazy bullshit on there but if the 'heterophobia' thing was made on Tumblr I can absolutely see something like that being said and having some reasoning considering parts of tumblr that are heavy in Fandom often overlap with the 'Race to be the most sexually special snowflake, all cishets are the devil' parts of it. I mean there are people wishing death on the Winchester brother's actors real wives because they're destroying their gay fantasies. I cannot wait for the next big comic/cartoon/anime convention where the Avatar creators show up for a panel and are borderline assaulted by the people who hate Korrasami. It's going to get really, really bad.
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Dec 20, 2014 07:36
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Easy: Disregarding the 200+ episode shounen power series where you get a poo poo load of filler and garbage and some of the more recent "merely good" anime, these shows are all serious contenders for the best of the genre, especially the bolded examples. It's not really fair to put them and Korra in the same category for comparison. Korra was a good show, but it's not going to become a timeless classic that defines this era of western animation.
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Dec 22, 2014 05:10
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The Sharmat posted:I think you overestimate how good Western Animation is and even the idea of western action cartoons' survival as a genre. Only "Western" shows I can think of that are pretty good Simpsons Aeon Flux Archer Batman TAS Batman Beyond The Boondocks The Critic Gargoyles Adventure Time Gravity Falls Justice League/Unlimited Clone Wars cartoon Morel Orel Pirates of Dark Water ExoSquad South Park Spiderman 90s series Venture Bros It pretty much breaks down into shows based on another popular IP, shows created to sell toys that actually beat the average and were good, and dark/mature/more "mature" stuff that gets aired in primetime/late night. Since Western cartoons are almost 100% targeted at the 7-13 crowd and geared up for toy sales and other accessories there was never much of a drive to make western cartoons appeal to an older audience. What happened with MLP is a insane exception to the rule and will unfortunately be how most people remember the American cartoon genre for years.
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Dec 22, 2014 05:35
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Ok, well, if you look at your list here, and then you look at my anime list, and then your list doesn't have or bugs bunny cartoons or king of the hill or beavis and butthead on it, someone could think that actually anime is really good and western animation is really bad. Someone could think that, hell, even knowing all the facts. Yeah, I didn't put any of the classic Loony Toons or Disney stuff because they're so famous it goes way beyond any other regular cartoon. I just went down the TVTropes page listing Western Animation and listed the ones I recognized and knew were a "big deal" or just my personal favorites. It's just a half-assed attempt to list a few shows much better then Korra to repudiate anyone trying to hold it up as some paragon of creatively and art. Western Animation has a lot of great shows, but Korra will not be listed as one of them.
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Dec 22, 2014 08:14
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Can we move this thread to the anime forum now so I can vote it for Top 5 Best Anime of 2014 BARELY edging out the gambling pedophile anime that had to get its thread closed What was that gambling pedo anime? I remember a anime thread getting gassed because goons were aggressively defending a pre-teen girl with huge tits who was obsessed with her brother as "innocent and harmless" but I know nothing else about the actual anime.
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Dec 22, 2014 08:26
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:It was called No Game No Life and basically the formula was that every week they would do some kind of Kaiji style gambling cheat or logic puzzle scenario and you would see his naked little sisters who was like 11 or something even on the show literally 11 getting a sexy bubblebath with big titty anime angels and catgirls and stuff. Every single anime season without fail people will latch onto a new "creepy as gently caress" show and until Zorak loses his mind and starts banning people it gets reaaaaaaal weird.
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Dec 22, 2014 08:33
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Rosalind posted:It's not fan art, but Asami is now listed as Korra's girlfriend on Wikipedia. There was a huge edit war over the past few days and a debate that must be tens of thousands of words long, but the statements finally provided the evidence needed to keep it in the article. It brought out the worst kinds of nerds, wiki editor nerds. People were reverting every single attempt because "Until the creators deliberately state Korrasami it's not official and can't be included". loving autistic man-children, literally unable to allow context to have any part in their precious wikis.
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Dec 23, 2014 09:38
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DrSunshine posted:Why not just start an "Avatar Appreciation thread" in ADTRW? I mean, it really is anime after all. We're all pretty nice, chill folks there, I'm sure we'd welcome a ATLA/Korra thread! Zorak would nuke the thread within 2 pages once SHM and Irish Joe showed up. People in TVIV have it pretty good as far as mods go. The ADTRW forum knows to toe the line and not get too weird or bans start dropping left and right, and none of the other mods care enough to reverse them. Given the content of most of the threads, its objectively a good thing. Show threads get closed real quick when people start getting creepy, especially about "underage" female characters.
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Dec 23, 2014 15:18
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Covok posted:It's implied Avatars live a normal human lifespan and Kyoshi was special for living past that (I think). It might be one of those "your soul is only as old as you really are" things. That, or they didn't think it through or didn't want to have them all be old, grey dudes(ettes). I'm pretty sure it was the reverse, that Avatars will like a long life, 100+, and Aang died young because his hibernation caught up with him.
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Dec 26, 2014 22:45
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PhazonLink posted:In addition to a hypothetical series after Korra, they should do past Avatars(Not Aang). It's been 10,000 years since the avatar cycle started, it'd be really interesting to see some of the first few, then the ones who came in after the world knew about the avatar cycle, and those who had to intervene in major world wars. A new series that was nothing but experimental artistic styles 2-part episodes each covering a different avatar could be amazing, but it's not the kind of thing that would appeal to Nickelodeon.
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4 days let to chat it up guys, better get it all out of your system.
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Dec 28, 2014 05:05
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The Sharmat posted:I'm pretty sad that I missed most of these threads for coming to this fandom so late, given they're about to be banned on TVIV forever or something. There was some good stuff in here. Well, that's not exactly accurate. The threads were fine, most of the time. The issue, and I think Deadpool posted here about it, is the sheer amount of reports this thread generated from either people complaining about the creepy Korrasami posters getting too explicit(like, sexually explicit), people reporting SHM, SHM complaining about absolutely everything, and eventually the mods outright admitting they weren't going to do poo poo about the thread complaints unless people started posting hardcore DA fanporn or something equivalent. This led to inmates running the asylum and trying to institute their own "forum rules" and then trying to report people breaking said rules. I didn't follow the threads too closely after the season 1 thread when there was a 10 page long argument over whether or not Amon was Aang and people getting extremely defensive when their fan-fiction theories were criticized. Mostly I'd just check in after an episode to see if any cool .gifs were posted.
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Ambivalent posted:I don't know, guys, I just don't see it. You guys need to outline context clues and character moments using video, audio, transcripts and still images to maybe convince me. It just seemed rushed to me, is all. Nothing was ever connected or really made sense. It was just really bad writing. You know, no hard feelings that you're imagining things. Maybe you could convince me. During the wiki edit war between the airing of the finale and Bryko's actual tumblr post admitting it the most often said thing was "until its explicitly stated by the creators Korrasami is not canon there's no way to conclusively prove from the episode ending that Korra and Asami end up together" despite that fact that it ends almost identical to the first Avatar except Korra and Asami don't kiss like Aang and Katarra did.
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Dec 31, 2014 06:40
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Level Slide posted:I hope Bryke and the rest of the Avatar staff go on to make other beautifully animated things. Netflix might hire them for some original series. If they're going to drop $90 mill on an Asian GoT then they clearly have money to burn.
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SirKibbles posted:Woah what? Netflix spent $90 million on Marco Polo, it's Asian themed medieval drama, and in the last 3 years have been going all in on producing original series to stand out now that Amazon and Hulu are shaping up to be serious competition. Orange is the New Black has been great, House of Cards squandered a mindblowing season 1 with a completely bonkers season 2, Bojack Horseman was one of the best, darkest comedies in years, they've got a contract to produce 4 Marvel series which will almost certainly be tied into the MCU, and nowadays when a cable show gets cancelled its "Well, Netflix could pick it up" like they did with Longmire. I could see the Avatar creative team getting hired to produce an animated series based on Eastern myth/philosophy to appeal to kids/teens and give Netflix a toy franchise to add to their revenue stream. The management has been really good at seeking new ways of securing profits and how to encourage media companies to keep giving them film/TV licenses.
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