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Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
Flying Lemur style better be impressive and all over the place. Having chi blocking twelve year olds skittering all over while they puncture your pressure points would be a horrible way to be paralyzed. (self appointed peace keepers shouldn't kill willy-nilly)

Sithsaber fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Sep 27, 2014

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Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Potsticker posted:

What does Korra even have to do with Evangelion anyway? Like, I'm legit confused at the connection.

They just want to draw Korra in desperation and a skin tight suit.


This trailer may have been too anime for my tastes :)

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
It would seem that third time's the charm with the will of the universe bit. Toph first became relevant in the swamp episode (prophesy dream) and she might have really pulled a Yoda by tapping into the lifeForce of the cosmos. We even get a magic tree fight sequence.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Nichael posted:

Did anyone notice Korra is in a pool of liquid that looks like the mercury poison used on her in the trailer?

It's a phobia hallucination sequence.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
She might be a kemalist expy who has a more than pragmatic reason for being secular to the point of purposely pissing on the spirits.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
They turned the spirit wilds into a tourist trap? Let's bang the gong in honor of another wasted opportunity. (Sure this issue will get a episode or two, but it just looks like another plot point being swept under the rug. I'm also annoyed by how RC supports the EK government in exile, especially considering how the last monarch was aggressively revanchist. The world of Avatar is too small for a straight up Taiwan expy. (Which is probably where they're sugar coating the epilogue to.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
Calling Kuvira fascist is a bit too easy; at her world's stage of sociopolitical development she makes more sense as a Bonapartist.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Rosalind posted:

What the heck does this even mean? If we're comparing Kuvira to anyone I would probably guess they're modeling her after Asian fascists/nationalists like Sun Yat-Sen, Chang Kai-Shek, Dai Li, Wang Jingwei, Hideki Tojo, and more generally the Japanese Imperial Rule Assistance Association.

That just seems too easy and too inaccurate. For example, Amon may seem like a commie, but honestly he has more in common with the taiping rebellion. The EK may seem to be a blatant China expy, but it could also be a condensed version of the history of France.

Sithsaber fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Sep 30, 2014

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

hiddenriverninja posted:

So, the Air Nation is a entity that has political representation AND every citizen is a international vigilante?

Bruce would be proud.

They're too flashy.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

ETB posted:

Parading around in bat-shaped vehicles isn't?

It's black tho. The Air Nation is now a army of Super-Robins.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

X_Toad posted:

I don't think I would be annoyed as much as I am by the propaganda subplot if it hadn't been linked to a plot that turned out to be a red herring (the civil war).

Basically all bplots become red herrings after a certain point. The equalists took over the city but immediately dispersed after 10 guys saw that Am on was a fraud. They then voted in a president who seemed overwhelmed at the beginning of season 3, only to have him survive because of the stabilising influence of chaos over the border and unlimited tourist/refugee bucks. The spirits are reduced to plot inconveniences; the fall of Ba Singh Se is literally floated over while Mako makes ugly faces at looters. (Who would have included hiscousins if Nana wasn't indoctrinated) Even the Civil War was brushed over, and Korra only switched sides because her father got arrested after helping to organize "seditious activity." Unaloque didn't know what he was doing, Jinora got dumped in the mists of b character growth and Asami hung around just to help Korra with her fast travel.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Harold Cooplowski posted:

Book IV already? I feel like the last season just ended, oh wait it did.

At least Nick is completely obvious about steamrolling through the end of their obligations now.

E: Also if that last bit of the trailer is a fakeout and it's her skeleton or something I might snap.

Korra can go to the spirit world.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Harold Cooplowski posted:

I'm still not ready for tomorrow

Just one episode? Wasted opportunity #76.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

hiddenriverninja posted:

Yeah but the episode spans three years. maybe.

So it's a traveling montage. :(

This is why Korra needs 20 episodes a season.

Ps. Okay 15 would work if handled right.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Harold Cooplowski posted:

Nah. We already saw the opener to it and it was present day Asami and Mako, among others. I'm guessing it's her sad, being healed by Katara, and cutting her hair off at the end with cutaways to other plotlines.

I would have preferred that they left things to the airbenders for a few episodes and had Jinora continue to be the only competent character by having her spirit find and go pick up a clearly not ready Korra. Then we get to reenact Bespin.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
MAKO has finally found his purpose: being the audience's annoyance surrogate.

So Kuvira's gonna launch a coup. That shouldn't be a bad thing but status quo is writer will of god.

A few of the voices were too familiar. Stop hiring Zhao.

It looks like they're going to shift the wackiness onto the third class of avatar degrassi.

On one hand it's obvious that Kuvira is consolidating power rather than uniting the EK. On the other hand the governor probably wanted to keep his state independent and for that he's not a saint.( He's not even a smart saint.) Dick moves have to be made when you're nation building.

Kuzco has become a wealthy version of Bolin. poo poo.

The Air Nation idea looks like it's failing. Maybe that's because people have adapted to your tricks and figured out the blaring weakness of your monkey suit. Bring back the staff and use it to block swords!

Did Tenzin finally allow his wife to stop making babies?

Underground earthbending circuit redeems pro bending but 6 months still isn't that long a period of travelling.

Wasted opportunity #79: I should be rooting for the air nomads but again I'm really sympathetic toward the villains. Nuance only works when the side you're rooting for has its own pros that we can see. Instead of having the only two air masters hanging out at fancy parties all episode, you could have had one of them walk out of a busy communication hub and then sit down to eat.

At least I'm looking forward to episodes that focus on Korra.

I don't think there was a hard coup in tsau fu. It looks like Kuvira just won a vote of confidence.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Rincewind posted:

I really don't think that reading the Equalists as Communists makes much sense, since like their entire deal is breaking up the solidarity of the lower classes by (with the help of a literal capitalist captain of industry!) channeling the resentment of nonbenders against benders as a scapegoat.

Like, season one hits us over the head with the fact that bending or non-bending isn't correlated with class or social standing (Remember how there was a whole episode about how the Satos are rich as gently caress and Mako and Bolin are barely scraping by? Remember how in the last episode when they're hiding out underground with that bum in the secret Hooverville place he just out and out says that benders and nonbenders are all the same down there?), and we know from ATLA that within living memory bending as a cultural practice in three out of four nations was singled out for extermination by the fourth nation.

Amon is Taiping, Unaloque is radical anabaptist Geneva and Kuvira is either Kemal or Napoleon.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Big Anime Fan Here posted:

The flying squirrel suits are loving stupid.

I just don't get why they can't why they can't keep pop out staff on their backs. If you can store snacks you can store a sail. gently caress it, just give every airbender a durable umbrella.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

hangedman1984 posted:

Its pretty obvious this is EXACTLY what is happening

Which is unfortunate. You can be a warlord and someone who drafts people rather than executing them.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
Sitting around in a special metal city while war orphans go hungry isn't that inspiring.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Rosalind posted:

What are the odds that in the end it's a children's show so villains have to be unsubtle and villainous? This isn't loving Breaking Bad here. This is something my 8 year old cousin watches.


That's why I jokingly abhor this show's message. I had 11 year old cousins who saw the equalists and just labelled them all "jealous". 3 years later and they labelled the ferguson protestors as a mob of jealous people. Back when I was a kid my superhero cartoons taught me to mistrust the powers that be.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

4/5ths of the government in Book 1 were portrayed as corrupt bigots ruled by fear and jingoistic rhetoric.
Seriously, watch "When Extremes Meet" again. A lot of what that episode does isn't followed up on, but you can't say it isn't there.

That was a wasted opportunity. 70% of RC's problems were fixed by Raiko being elected and when it looked like the other 30% (along with duck off spirit vines) would do Raiko in it turned out that grumpy spirits just gave the political establishment millions of tourist bucks. (Along with looted treasuries the show will never talk about)

So did Toph throw away all her Bei Phong prestige or did her daughters just dump all of their influence into rehabilitating criminals in one country and arresting them in another?

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The show's making it clear that Raiko's apparent approval of Prince Wu is him playing politics, and that it's lovely of him to do so.
One of the worst things about the ending of Book 1 was that it seemed like the three non-Tarrlok assholes on the Councils were all gonna stay in power and poo poo would still suck. I'm sure Mike and Bryan have learned their lesson and we're not going to end the series with Prince Wu on the throne.

They seemed less like assholes and more like fearful little bitches. Kids might have identified with their wide eyed acquiescence though.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
Maybe he was just there to visibly nerf the airbender's supposed advantage in combat and logistical situations. That would suck though. It would also suck if the old cast continues to act as cockteases who sit around making plans that immediately fall apart.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Sato posted:

^^^^^^^^

I could see that.

And man, I just really want to see Katara do something that isn't healing or sitting on the sidelines. Zuko and (presumably, given the trailer) Toph get to be badasses and fight evil while the greatest waterbender in the world sits at home? Pfffft, younger Katara would have been pissed.

Zuko went to the worst place he couldfight and jobbed pretty hard. At least the fight scene looked cool.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

TheModernAmerican posted:

I mean it's not inaccurate. Being white is kinda like having law bending powers :v:


This so obvious I nearly shouted "ooooh" when I read it. It fits really well with the Earth Kingdom being alternate-China, and is a rarely acknowledged period of Chinese history (in America).

The worst part about this is that they only have money bending powers. I wasn't able to make them understand that the equalists were only a threat because of money bending.

Ps. I hope cabbage corp becomes a fifth column for Kuvira. There needs to be one last cosmic joke that crushes the cabbages.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

X_Toad posted:

Well, a solution for the Spirit Wilds problem has been found, Republic City is participating in massive infrastructure upgrades all over the Earth Kingdom, the rightful heir to the Earth Kingdom is sheltered in his city (and I doubt that Raiko is the only one wanting to use Wu as a possible authority figure to counter Kuvira), etc. He's got to have done something right in the last three years.

1. The solution to the spirit problem was pulled out of the writing team's rear end and is utter bullshit.

2. I would have preferred the industrialists abandoning RC and leaving it to the spirits and the mob.

3. Supporting the house of Orleans is not that great of a plan even if it does sap away the advances made in the warlord interregnum.

Raiko had so much problems he ordered the avatar to leave after she turned into a mecha spirit. Turning that poo poo because "leave it alone" is the show's chosen solution is dumb.

Ps. I just remembered missed opportunity #96.

#96: doing nothing with possession/ spirit leprosy

Sithsaber fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Oct 3, 2014

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

RottenK posted:

You can't seriosuly be that dumb.

The show is dumb. A plot point of season 2 was that Unaloq was unhinged and literally didn't know what he was doing.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

icantfindaname posted:

Batman TAS was not really a kids show, and also in my opinion does lay on the grimdark pretty thick, much like a lot of DC stuff and comic stuff from that era

Batman isn't grimdark outside of the movies. (Unless you think a child watching his parents die is unnecessarily grimdark) The one fault with batman is that in hindsight it looked like it wrapped up a few story arcs that restarted when the show got its redesign. This was for the best; you can never have enough Harley Quinn.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet
But should she be THE antagonist? The red lotus has to be good for something.

Ps. Wait, Korra might turn to Zaheer for assistance.

:gonk:

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Sydin posted:

I doubt he'll be an actual villain again, but unless they're keeping him under constant sedation they can't stop Zaheer from meditating. So my guess is that Korra will probably meet him in the spirit world at some point and he'll give her advice on how to deal with Kuvira.

In book 3 the primary antagonists wanted to impose absolute chaos, and now we have an antagonist who wants to impose absolute order. Considering the book title is "Balance", I'm guessing the message is that you have to aim for somewhere in the middle. Hence Zaheer helping to counteract Kuvira.

While total war would bring renewed tyranny, it would also lead to societal chaos that could birth new technologies and ideologies. My guess is that Zaheer would view all governments equally and assume they'd make a Orwellian deal once a few million people die in "border skirmishes". This is better than simply dumping the red lotus although they could have probably handled the group better by having a few cells working in opposition to Zaheer if he went assassin's creed and offed a secretly collaborating dai li official.


Or they'll say that the militant wing died in the caves, leaving only aimless moles like Unaloq and noise jewelry guy.

E

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Rosalind posted:

Wouldn't this be a form of energybending and therefore something that only the Avatar could do?

Everything's energy when you think about it. If you can block chi you can probably activate particles of it that move through the environment.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Rincewind posted:

I don't know, I feel like the show would be a lot better if it explored moral grey areas, like "What if fascism was right?"

Napoleon was better than the ancien regime.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

AmiYumi posted:

Christ, this thread. Once again I am very, very glad none of you are anywhere near this show's writing room.

I was glad that you weren't in this thread. The writers are good but are committing George Lucas and Ken Levine level mistakes.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

achillesforever6 posted:

What's with it with big eyebrows and authoritative types?

I think it draws attention to the always evil scowl of deep reflection or possibly the consuming terribleness of a driving purpose.

Ps. Require screenshot to test your supposition.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Okay?

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

MrAristocrates posted:

OH MY GOD STOP

You're right, we should focus on WuSami.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

You shouldn't have come to a anime thread if you didn't want to read aboutanime.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

Serella posted:

Ngl, since last season I've been wondering if one of Toph's kids was Sokka's.

Also, gently caress anyone who hates the winged suits. The gliders were an even bigger weakness because they were an external apparatus. How many times did we see an airbender fumble for his staff (particularly Aang)? Sure, we saw in this episode that the suits have their weakness too, but they are simply a better choice and fit in with the modern Air nation.

That said, the contrast of Tenzin in his traditional robes next to all his kids in the new suits. :unsmith: Very end of an era.

They could have had both but still should have relied on the staff for offensive and defensive capabilities. (Shotgun staff was real badass) Wingsuit alone only makes sense if there's a shortage of bisons.

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Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

MrAristocrates posted:

Just post it, you can't possibly make it any worse.

I say this, knowing many of you will interpret it as a challenge.

Missed Opportunity #102: Bumi was seriously mishandled. He could have retained his rank and headed a joint UR-WL escort service. Doing that would have given us real family tension (Bumi wouldn't be invited), a hint at what its like when the military does favors while going off the book and it could have given Asami a excuse to have purpose outside of bankrolling every single fieldtrip and playing Korra's PR assistant.

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