LingcodKilla posted:Honest question. Why are their drug counselors if it's a zero tolerance Navy? Do they only help with legal drug misuse? If you're determined to be addicted or dependent, you still receive treatment and care on the Navy's dime, even if you're kicked out afterwards.
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Octopode posted:If you're determined to be addicted or dependent, you still receive treatment and care on the Navy's dime, even if you're kicked out afterwards. So, Bidencare then.
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Oct 28, 2014 17:23
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Octopode posted:If you're determined to be addicted or dependent, you still receive treatment and care on the Navy's dime, even if you're kicked out afterwards. this reminds me of the guy on USS Last Ship who popped on a command-wide urinalysis after a port visit to amsterdam. he got off the boat and sought months of treatment. i'm not sure if it helped Zamboni Apocalypse posted:So, Bidencare then.
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Oct 28, 2014 18:17
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Are the forums NMCI blocked? I've never tried.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:51
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Schlabbalabba posted:Are the forums NMCI blocked? I've never tried. Nope.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:59
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How hard is it to go active duty from reserves? The recruiter said that they can't get me to MEPs in November to DEP in because they've already got their limit for active duty for the month, and they won't promise me that they can send me in December either. However they did tell me that they can get me to meps next week for a reserve spot for CTN. So if i do this, my question is how hard is it to get transferred to active duty?
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Oct 28, 2014 21:46
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Impossible pretty much
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Oct 28, 2014 21:56
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I used to work at a command that had reservists and for the several years I was at that command, at any given time there was like a dozen of those dudes who were failures in the real world desperately trying to get on active duty, suggesting to me that it is possible, but very difficult and based on a byzantine and arbitrary administrative quagmire of a process that makes the cost-to-benefit not worthwhile If you're not in yet, hold out until you can get that active duty spot if you want to be active duty. I am pretty sure that if you can be a reserve CTN, though, you'd be getting the best of both worlds with regards to the school and clearance investigations and getting your certificates paid for, but also could go get a real job with all that stuff and make a boatload of money. Someone more knowledgeable about IT jobs and employment in the secret-squirrel contractor industry should advise you on that subject, though.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:06
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LingcodKilla posted:Honest question. Why are their drug counselors if it's a zero tolerance Navy? Do they only help with legal drug misuse? You still get treatment if you want it. If you ever find yourself getting in an ARI and refuse treatment you are at the discretion of your command, so the CO can decide to kick you out or not. If you go to a screening and choose to go into treatment, you can go through treatment and then your CO decides if he wants to kick you out or keep you in for a second chance. Some of the dudes that go through treatment get pardoned by the CO and then if they do something again they just get booted. The counselors can make recommendations for treatment, commands can choose if they want to send someone through it but if the member wishes to go then the command says no it usually looks negative on the CO (or they hosed up really bad). Everyone gets an offer to do treatment, and it can be either a 3-day course or several months inpatient rehab. Depends on the drug, but usually we just see alcohol and amphetamines.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:09
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Zotix posted:How hard is it to go active duty from reserves? I'm not going to pretend to be a great fount of knowledge on Reserves but everyone I know says it's pretty drat hard. It seems as though people are getting kicked out of active duty and going Reserves with the goal of going back active somehow. As a result, there's tons of competition... at least among the rates of people I deal with regularly.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:13
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If you go CTN reserves you'll spend the 6 months in JCAC. Then you can probably drop your resume off at the NSA and easily get a job there.
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Oct 29, 2014 01:38
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Sir Lucius posted:CO was watching my PRT today. Are you supposed to call attention on deck while in PT gear? No one did, but this was also the first time since he's been the CO ( a year and a half) that I've seen him in person. I also hear he got pissed off the other day that a watchfloor that didn't belong to him didn't call attention on deck, so idk. He has been on a kick about it lately... A couple weeks ago some 2nd class walked right by him in the p-way and didn't say anything, and then like a week later some JG not only didn't stand when he entered the room, but didn't acknowledge him.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:58
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Sir Lucius posted:If you go CTN reserves you'll spend the 6 months in JCAC. Then you can probably drop your resume off at the NSA and easily get a job there. pfffttt. With what experience?
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Oct 29, 2014 03:08
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Hey, the IT in my Reserves unit learned how to configure a router in tech school. Unfortunately, this does not help her rig cargo with chains which is far more applicable to her billet.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:12
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Vriess posted:pfffttt. With what experience? Sorry, I meant get a reserves job, not a civilian.
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Oct 29, 2014 07:56
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What's the process in reporting something that's been going on and people are just sweeping it under the rug/some people higher up that know about it are avoiding bringing it up because this place is a political cesspool?
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Oct 30, 2014 19:17
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Pandasmores posted:What's the process in reporting something that's been going on and people are just sweeping it under the rug/some people higher up that know about it are avoiding bringing it up because this place is a political cesspool? Evan Williams.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:19
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Pandasmores posted:What's the process in reporting something that's been going on and people are just sweeping it under the rug/some people higher up that know about it are avoiding bringing it up because this place is a political cesspool? Depending on what it is, use your CO's open door policy, call the fraud, waste, and abuse hotline, or call the IG's office.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:20
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Stultus Maximus posted:Evan Williams. Then this when all of those go nowhere.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:20
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Stultus Maximus posted:Evan Williams. Would but I'm 280 days sober. Edit: Cool, I'll see where this goes and then try to go higher up as it all goes down.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:22
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Mr. Nice! posted:call the fraud, waste, and abuse hotline, or call the IG's office. Honestly curious about people's experience about this or at least what they saw happen. Anyone got any stories?
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Oct 30, 2014 19:54
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We had an Air Force IG show up at our hangar for some poo poo once and he got really mad we were wearing the wrong uniform before he realized we were A.) Not the squadron he had been assigned to review and B.) We were infact Marines. He politely apologized and said "Semper Fi" in his best grown up voice as he wished us a good day, which was ultra cringe-worthy That was my only interaction with the IG's office
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Oct 30, 2014 20:01
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Christoff posted:Honestly curious about people's experience about this or at least what they saw happen. Anyone got any stories? I called them because a senior chief was loving recruits at boot camp. Sadly the recruits he was loving didn't roll on him and he just stopped being an RDC for a bit before he was transferred.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:05
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Mr. Nice! posted:I called them because a senior chief was loving recruits at boot camp. Sadly the recruits he was loving didn't roll on him and he just stopped being an RDC for a bit before he was transferred. Were you a boot at the time?
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Oct 30, 2014 20:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:or call the IG's office. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh wait...you were serious. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA seriously though, OP, pm me and I'll let you know if it's something the spineless douchebags at IG will take an honest look at. I have many...many IG tales but I'm not drunk enough to tell them.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:30
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LingcodKilla posted:Were you a boot at the time? No. I was already an officer when this happened. It was a family member that was there at the time. ActusRhesus posted:BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Check my followup post. I know that it's likely to go nowhere hence why I just said skip to booze.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:38
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Yeah...I actually made the mistake of telling an IG the truth once. Pm me if you want the sordid tale. Also, are you a lawyer or a law student? Because if the former, we probably know each other.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:58
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Just a law student. Former SWO.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:04
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Mr. Nice! posted:Just a law student. Former SWO. Ah, good. My anonymity is safe. For now...
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Oct 30, 2014 21:06
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Don't waste your time with Fraud, Waste, and Abuse either unless it's something that will end up in GAO's lap. Which with what you do, it won't. In fact, don't bother reporting whatever the gently caress it is, probably. e: Because someone higher up probably already knows about it, has signed off on it, and had legal jury-rig a determination together that what they're doing is a-ok.
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Oct 31, 2014 00:12
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krispykremessuck posted:e: Because someone higher up probably already knows about it, has signed off on it, and had legal jury-rig a determination that whoever reports it is at fault.
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Oct 31, 2014 00:17
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Oct 31, 2014 00:23
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krispykremessuck posted:Don't waste your time with Fraud, Waste, and Abuse either unless it's something that will end up in GAO's lap. Which with what you do, it won't. If they did that with this then lol the Navy is hosed and this place deserves to be graded one of the screwed up places in the navy.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:20
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In other news I am currently TDY at an airfoce base. I saw A-10's flying today. A-10's are rad.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:35
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Pandasmores posted:lol the Navy is hosed 
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Oct 31, 2014 05:42
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Sir Lucius posted:In other news I am currently TDY at an airfoce base. I saw A-10's flying today. A-10's are rad. Had some F-22s Buzz my house yesterday. Followed by the blue angels buzzing the house for like 5 hours. Followed by the trainer jets Followed by the Lear jets of whatever big wig is in town. This all starts at 745am. I work nights. gently caress base housing and the flooding that made it the only available rental I could snag in time to take my dogs.
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Oct 31, 2014 07:28
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Any SD Goons around that can share their apartment hunting advice/stories with me? I did the classic "first time renter" thing and went for the more affordable off the bat, $1,000 a month studio rental in Downtown near 15th Street. It's not a terrible live in per se; coded locks, gates everywhere, as of the moment free wifi/cable and generally much more forgiving on my saving's account while I wait for the Navy to pay me SD BAH. On the downside, I have discovered that the entire SD homeless population lives around this area; a fact which I can currently tolerate, but would prefer not to deal with for a long term thing. My lease expires in January, and I think i'm going to want to move up north some, more into the Marina/Little Italy district. It's obvious that living up there as opposed to Chula Vista/somewhere farther is going to sock me at least 1700+ a month in rent, not to mention utilities.
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Oct 31, 2014 07:30
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theAcidQueen posted:Any SD Goons around that can share their apartment hunting advice/stories with me? The farther up the hill towards El Cortez you get, the less homeless there are because they can't be assed to walk up it. I lived right across the street from EC and the only interaction with vagrants I had was very early in my three years there when a dude stole my wife's bike off our porch. The prices weren't so bad, but that was 7 years ago, and I'm not sure what your BAH is.
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Oct 31, 2014 08:56
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Six more months have been added to my time. 
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Angry Fish posted:Six more months have been added to my time. Bonus! You ask anyone about it yet?
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