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Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Same on one side of the family, with a generous splash of crazy Doomsday Prepper/Sovereign Citizen mentality. Rich, heavy drinking gun nuts who don't think they need drivers licenses or concealed carry permits. Neat.

This is why I was dreading getting asked "Would you ticket your mother for speeding or arrest your mother for smoking marijuana?" type questions at the oral boards. Everyone told me the best answer is "no", because only liars say "yes" and no one would actually cite/arrest their own mother unless they are a complete dick (who probably shouldn't be police).

But I'd totally arrest my mom.

Glad they didn't ask me that question, I guess.

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Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Untagged posted:

Please don't take a shower with your balls directly under your face. :ohdear:.

My god, this is good advice. I have ladybits but it's still relevant, that would be loving brutal :gonk:
I googled what to do in a worst case scenario where OC spray gets all up in there and this came up an 'Ask The Doctor' thing:

"My boyfriend is in the military and he was sprayed with OC pepper spray (oleoresin capsicum). We thought it was all off his skin and we had sexual intercourse various times. He broke out in blisters on his mouth, and I had a break out inside my vaginal walls. What should I do? Should I go to the emergency room, or does this go away by itself? It stings, but there is no sting when I urinate. It looks very red and swollen."

http://www.justanswer.com/ob-gyn/61cmp-boyfriend-military-sprayed-oc.html

Spoiler alert: It's herpes.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

beanieson posted:

it's always herpes

e: hey, where'd you end up moving to? or have you decided yet?
Still in Nevada, move date got pushed back to next summer so I have more time to decide. Now I have the option of finishing my POST certification here before the move and trying to transfer it somewhere... but if it doesn't transfer and I have to immediately do another academy that would suck.

I also took the NTN Frontline Ergometrics test for fun (so much fun) and sent those results to a bunch of departments in the west/southwest/middle America, that has worked out pretty well. Got my foot in the door in a few states I hadn't looked at.

So yeah, haven't decided.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

DrakeriderCa posted:

Yeah I could have told you that was going to be the answer based on this:
No, you don't understand. Her boyfriend was deployed overseas and the military tests them for STDs when they get back to the US so he can't have herpes. Fact.

Edit to add a question related to my last post: Have any of you guys taken those Frontline tests with the video "what would you do" scenarios? They kept stressing that we should disregard departmental policies and answer the questions like we have never had any law enforcement experience. A bunch of seemingly intelligent cops in my testing group failed. Got the impression that the test valued people being slightly naive/derpy over being accurate but I'm not sure what the reasoning for that is. Input please?

Pilot to Gunner fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 16, 2014

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

beanieson posted:

Never heard of this before so I doubt I can answer your question, but I'm curious, what were the scenarios like? What answers were they looking for?

Their website describes it as "Situational Judgment and Human Relations Video Test, a multiple-choice test that portrays situations commonly faced in law enforcement. Candidates are required to analyze situations and make quick judgments about how to respond" which is about right. Short video clip plays, it freezes at the decision making point, you have a few seconds to answer, next video starts. Not supposed to repeat any of the exact scenarios but they fell into some general categories like: adhering to or deviating from protocol, interacting with the public, discretion in warning vs arresting, when to use force, your attitude in your approach (stern or friendly), following chain of command, dealing with dick coworkers. Reminded me of a police version of CYOA books.

The choices are kind of vague. Like one might be ethically right but against departmental policy, or something a friendly/lenient cop would do vs what a stern stickler would do, etc. They don't say which questions you scored high or low on, you just get your overall percent back if you pass... I still have no idea what they were looking for or why so many cops failed.

Pilot to Gunner fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Nov 16, 2014

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Cmdr. Shepard posted:

I took a written test like this with a non cop buddy of mine. He passed and I (with 7 years experience ) failed. I still have no idea what they were looking for and it bothered me for awhile, because I felt like I answered honestly and what the best choice would be given the circumstances. The way I answered is still how I would handle those situations if they arose now at my current PD.

Only thing I could think of that cops with more experience would answer differently on were regarding how they would react to a superior officer implementing a new policy that they disagreed with or thought would be detrimental to the rest of their duties. People who have been on the job a while would be more comfortable voicing their dissent, maybe go talk to the sergeant about it, grumble with coworkers, make some suggestions. Newbs are more likely to be silent, obedient little worms who do what they're told, right? (I personally erred on the side of gross obsequiousness but for all I know those are the exact ones I got wrong). And there weren't enough of those type of questions to explain the pass/fail difference for cops.

The "would you have a friendly or stern expression in this situation" stuff really threw me because what if you have natural resting bitchface? All your poo poo looks stern.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Grem posted:

I'm pretty sure I did something like this, and the way I got through it was to always "ask a supervisor" if it was an option, if not an option, then just do what the stickler would do. I think a lot of people think the answers they're looking for are a kinder, gentler police force, but that didn't get them very high scores. We could be talking about two totally different things, though.

Yeah, sounds like the same test and also probably why I passed. I think you're right about the kinder/gentler police force thing. It was set up to make it sound like being the Nice Guy was always the better way to go; build trust with the community and faith in the department, we don't want people to hate us blah blah. People probably get lulled into that and start checking off "give a friendly reminder, let it slide this time but tell them you don't want to come back, politely ask them to comply one more time" when the correct answer is obviously "immediately use lethal force".

Always use lethal force, that's my one weird trick to passing. Cops hate me for it!

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Branis posted:

the best answer is do the least harm but still bust the baddies.


What's the best answer when your cop coworkers have agreed to go Christmas caroling off-duty (in uniform but wearing Santa hats) to raise money for a children's cancer ward and "boost the department's image", you're being pressured to join in but don't want to do it because singing is the loving worst and you've already made plans to meet some friends at a strip club that night?

Asking for a friend.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
You're all wrong, the correct answer was "suck it up and go caroling with your coworkers". No wonder so many cops failed that frontline test, no sense of teamwork or community.


But seriously, I'm not going caroling.

GunForumMeme posted:

Either way you're spending money to benefit poor kids in single parent households.
Or possible cancer victims. There is probably at least one bronzed stripper there who has had melanoma and is dancing to pay off medical bills.
We can agree that either way, I'm helping people. And that's what Christmas is all about.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
Oh, that wasn't actually on the test. But it should be.

It's my real life question. I'm near Vegas so I'll probably be in this same conundrum again in the future (minus the Santa hats and singing). Next time I'll pick cancer kids over a strip club, I swear. Next time.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
Bad Lieutenant

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
Got woken up by a guy who lives down the street pounding on my front door, hyperventilating like someone who had just been mugged. Turns out he sprinted to my house because earlier he'd tried to connect to wifi at some cafe and one of the networks in the area was named FBI Surveillance.

:byodood: "I know you're not in the FBI but figured you've got a contact there or some affiliation so you could call them to let them know their surveillance is visible to the public and if I can see it then the perps they are watching can see it too like oh my god that's scary and I didn't know who else to tell I mean this seems serious like whoa it's the FBI and I just want to help!!!"

Dude was so excited about this hot tip. Hopefully someone here knows an FBI agent and can alert them immediately.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
Normally I would, but this guy has teardrop tattoos and always wears neatly pressed BDUs. He looks like a sad clown.

No one shoots a sad clown. You just spray seltzer water at them and call it a day.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Careful. I said that once and they've been watching me ever since :tinfoil:

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
Last month a sergeant said he liked my watch, a few days ago it went missing. Thought I left it at the gym but now I know it was a good strat by police :argh:

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.
My favorite Tahoe is the one that someone used a whiteboard marker to draw a perimeter sketch on (complete w/names of officers and suspects) and it got permanently scorched onto the hood of the car. Been there for almost 6 months now.

Good times.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Branis posted:

no cop will cry over a burning impala, the worst police car ever made. Now if it was a crown vic horse tears would have been shed.

Today I learned that mentioning the guy in Portland who released police horses (during a drunken burglary a few nights ago) will calm even the most volatile FTP type of people mid-rant. Everyone turns into a criminal-hating sap when horsies are involved.

Thanks, drunk Portland guy. You saved Thanksgiving.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

GunForumMeme posted:

I just drink Yuengling.

Argh, I tried to get Yuengling here and the beer distributor had never heard of it. Can't get it delivered either :(

Kind of forget what it tastes like so I've convinced myself it wasn't that good anyway, the best part was really the price.

Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

Hezzy posted:

It really is not hard.

This. Recordings of cops who use a lot of casual profanity always make me cringe because it sounds so unprofessional and stupid. Most adults have to curb their profanity at work, no one respects a teacher or doctor who regularly curses on the job, of course the same should hold for police.

That being said I had a close call when we were responding to a suicide threat at a residence. The porch we were standing on collapsed and as I was falling I let out an "OH SHIII.. [aaah no don't say poo poo!!! Use a different word!] OOOooo... [wait saying 'shoot' around a suicidal person with a gun is worse, shut your mouth!] ooo..nrrggfh." *muffled grunt as I hit the ground*

My FTO came over and was like "Just say 'poo poo' next time, ya nerd".

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Pilot to Gunner
Aug 21, 2009

That's what you get, you get fork stabbed.

chartley posted:

Always key to know your audience. Just so happens mine at work respond best to more direct conversation. Tactical communication and all that. I think it can even break barriers a bit. If I talk very formal and polite there's a good chance theyd percieve me to be taking the piss and be upset.

If I move area of work I'll certainly have to retrain my go to vocab.

Well yeah, know your audience and don't be super formal (because "Pardon me, sir, so sorry to bother you but may I please arrest you?" does not work on anyone).

Can't really see how someone can't relate to people without resorting to obscenities but I dunno, maybe it does depend on your area. And possibly your gender... my Disappointed Schoolteacher and Formidable Grandma language might not go over as well for a lot of you guys.

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