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Edgar Quintero
Oct 5, 2004

POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
DO NOT GIVE HEROIN

quote:

All servers were able to reach your site. This means that the hostname itself is accessible from within mainland China.
We gotta try harder.

死亡,死亡的共产党

somebody please tell me what the chinese characters im posting actually mean cause im just using one of those dumb free translation sites.

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Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT
I'm in China right now reading this thread on my phone , try harder

Imgur being blocked really damages my enjoyment of the forums though. At least I can get past the Great Firewall on my computer.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Let's find out and reveal embarrassing personal secrets of the Chinese leadership.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

drilldo squirt posted:

Let's find out and reveal embarrassing personal secrets of the Chinese leadership.


I hear Liu Qibao does nothing but play Runescape for ten hours each day

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
I said embarrassing secrets not incredibly cool things.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Tarezax posted:

I'm in China right now reading this thread on my phone , try harder

Imgur being blocked really damages my enjoyment of the forums though. At least I can get past the Great Firewall on my computer.

Exhibit which goon city? Hang out with us and our WeChat Channel. Or LAN thread

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

caberham posted:

Exhibit which goon city? Hang out with us and our WeChat Channel. Or LAN thread

Zhangjiakou.

I really need to set up that Wechat account.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



drilldo squirt posted:

Wait, is china's official position on reincarnation say that they have a hand in it?

The Dalai Lama is generally proclaimed when the previous one dies, and it is a young child because they propose to identify who he has been reincarnated as. Beijing don't like this whole 'Tibetan culture' thing and want to usurp it, so they said "hey next time we're gonna know who the reincarnated Dalai Lama is" so they can put their own guy in charge. Everyone else promptly said :laffo:.

Apthous
Nov 2, 2014

by XyloJW
Pornography is illegal in China. I would imagine that all it would take to get banned in China would be to bring back DPPH, but if the goal is to only use D&D then the best 2 topics would have to be Tibet and Taiwan.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Mister Adequate posted:

The Dalai Lama is generally proclaimed when the previous one dies, and it is a young child because they propose to identify who he has been reincarnated as. Beijing don't like this whole 'Tibetan culture' thing and want to usurp it, so they said "hey next time we're gonna know who the reincarnated Dalai Lama is" so they can put their own guy in charge. Everyone else promptly said :laffo:.

It's a little more complicated than that. It's been the prerogative of the Emperor to appoint Lamas (both Dalai and Panchen) since those positions have existed (with a few exceptions here-and-there, as you'd expect from any historical process). Well, not "appoint" but "pull the name of the successor out of a basket" (and the Chinese government decided whose names went in the bucket). What's a lot more interesting is that the CCP is asserting rights that were reserved for the Emperor. Not, like, territorial rights and poo poo, but spiritual rights as well. Not that the two aren't intertwined enough already in China.

The whole "Tibet" thing is blown up anyway. Sure, it is a nasty bit of colonialism, but it is substantially gentler than European colonialism and while it has certainly benefited the Han more than the Tibetans, the Tibetans are doing substantially better under Chinese rule. Nepal serves as a pretty good control for what a free Tibet would have looked like and, again I want to stress that Tibet is far from perfect, it is a shitton better than Nepal, even for the native Tibetans. It is more of a lingering anti-Communist/pro-British Imperialism bit of propaganda that sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard as opposed to an actual thing.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Shbobdb posted:

It's a little more complicated than that. It's been the prerogative of the Emperor to appoint Lamas (both Dalai and Panchen) since those positions have existed (with a few exceptions here-and-there, as you'd expect from any historical process). Well, not "appoint" but "pull the name of the successor out of a basket" (and the Chinese government decided whose names went in the bucket). What's a lot more interesting is that the CCP is asserting rights that were reserved for the Emperor. Not, like, territorial rights and poo poo, but spiritual rights as well. Not that the two aren't intertwined enough already in China.

The whole "Tibet" thing is blown up anyway. Sure, it is a nasty bit of colonialism, but it is substantially gentler than European colonialism and while it has certainly benefited the Han more than the Tibetans, the Tibetans are doing substantially better under Chinese rule. Nepal serves as a pretty good control for what a free Tibet would have looked like and, again I want to stress that Tibet is far from perfect, it is a shitton better than Nepal, even for the native Tibetans. It is more of a lingering anti-Communist/pro-British Imperialism bit of propaganda that sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard as opposed to an actual thing.

You suck so hard.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Like what is wrong with you dude.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Free Tibet.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Thank you for the clarification, I didn't think I had it all accurate. I also don't feel qualified to disagree with Tina Belcher on the second paragraph.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
There's people protesting something or other in front of the Chinese consulate down the street from my apartment. Given that they're speaking Chinese, and also probably going on about either Tibet or some weird cult, I cannot overemphasize how much I don't give a gently caress and just want them to shut up.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Buy them all forums accounts and get them to post in this thread instead. Two birds, one stone.

Arunachal Pradesh belongs to India.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
Post a link to this thread over and over on weibo and say free Tibet and talk about party leaders kids and taiwan and tiananmen and say daioyu is japanese and etc

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Tom Smykowski posted:

Post a link to this thread over and over on weibo and say free Tibet and talk about party leaders kids and taiwan and tiananmen and say daioyu is japanese and etc

This is a group project, Tom.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
Im the ideas man, boss

Lightanchor
Nov 2, 2012

Shbobdb posted:

Sure, it is a nasty bit of colonialism...that sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard as opposed to an actual thing.

nice

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Guavanaut posted:

Buy them all forums accounts and get them to post in this thread instead. Two birds, one stone.

Arunachal Pradesh belongs to India.

Well sure, pradesh doesn't sound very Chinese does it?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
China might prefer calling it the Kameng, Subansiri, Siang, Lohit, and Tirap Frontier Divisions.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Tarezax posted:

I'm in China right now reading this thread on my phone , try harder

Imgur being blocked really damages my enjoyment of the forums though. At least I can get past the Great Firewall on my computer.

Post a long detailed FAQ-esque guide on how to bypass the firewall and tell lowtax to post it on the front page.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Let's kill Jackie Chan to deny china its most profitable export.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Dudes who look like jackie chan.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
Wont work, boss. Theyll just transition to jackie chan memorial impersonators.

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

Shbobdb posted:

It's a little more complicated than that. It's been the prerogative of the Emperor to appoint Lamas (both Dalai and Panchen) since those positions have existed (with a few exceptions here-and-there, as you'd expect from any historical process). Well, not "appoint" but "pull the name of the successor out of a basket" (and the Chinese government decided whose names went in the bucket).

Nope.

I mean maybe that's how it was written in Chinese histories, but in reality you're talking about the Golden Urn, which was only used for the identification of the 10th, 11th, and 12th Dalai Lamas, and only the 8th and 9th Panchen Lamas. Even then it was used the opposite of the way you described it- Tibetan methods were used to narrow it down to a small list of potential trulku candidates, and then the Golden Urn was used (and again, only in those few cases, too).

Shbobdb posted:

What's a lot more interesting is that the CCP is asserting rights that were reserved for the Emperor. Not, like, territorial rights and poo poo, but spiritual rights as well. Not that the two aren't intertwined enough already in China.

Right on the money here! Yeah it's weird, because the Emperors recognized with spiritual authority by the Tibetans were associated with Manjusri... I'm not sure if Xi Jinping really wants to open that can of worms.

Shbobdb posted:

The whole "Tibet" thing is blown up anyway. Sure, it is a nasty bit of colonialism, but it is substantially gentler than European colonialism and while it has certainly benefited the Han more than the Tibetans, the Tibetans are doing substantially better under Chinese rule.

Cool, Colonial Justification 101. Generally speaking, "they can't rule themselves, they're better off ruled by others without their consent!" is a pretty lovely argument. If things are so great for Tibetans in Tibet, why is it that they go to such great lengths to leave it, and why is it that Tibetans in Ladakh/Mustang/Monyul aren't clamoring to cross the border into Chinese territory? I don't know, just seems like maybe Tibetans know more about Tibet than you.

Shbobdb posted:

It is more of a lingering anti-Communist/pro-British Imperialism bit of propaganda that sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard as opposed to an actual thing.

This is incredibly demeaning for the Tibetans who generally power the movement- whether they're one of the many who have walked through the loving Himalayas to freedom, or the Tibetans still in Tibet who take enormous risks to express dissent in a place subject to perpetual crackdowns. Or one of the 130 or so who have set themselves on fire in the last 4 years- men, women, young and old, farmers and monks and nuns and nomads. That's something that 'sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard'? Western supporters keep raising the issue here, sure, but in the end it's Tibetans who have risen up over and over again rejecting Communist Party rule, you colossal douche. Stop trying to strip their agency and putting everything on the 'Western Left'

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Electro-Boogie Jack posted:

Nope.

I mean maybe that's how it was written in Chinese histories, but in reality you're talking about the Golden Urn, which was only used for the identification of the 10th, 11th, and 12th Dalai Lamas, and only the 8th and 9th Panchen Lamas. Even then it was used the opposite of the way you described it- Tibetan methods were used to narrow it down to a small list of potential trulku candidates, and then the Golden Urn was used (and again, only in those few cases, too).


Right on the money here! Yeah it's weird, because the Emperors recognized with spiritual authority by the Tibetans were associated with Manjusri... I'm not sure if Xi Jinping really wants to open that can of worms.


Cool, Colonial Justification 101. Generally speaking, "they can't rule themselves, they're better off ruled by others without their consent!" is a pretty lovely argument. If things are so great for Tibetans in Tibet, why is it that they go to such great lengths to leave it, and why is it that Tibetans in Ladakh/Mustang/Monyul aren't clamoring to cross the border into Chinese territory? I don't know, just seems like maybe Tibetans know more about Tibet than you.


This is incredibly demeaning for the Tibetans who generally power the movement- whether they're one of the many who have walked through the loving Himalayas to freedom, or the Tibetans still in Tibet who take enormous risks to express dissent in a place subject to perpetual crackdowns. Or one of the 130 or so who have set themselves on fire in the last 4 years- men, women, young and old, farmers and monks and nuns and nomads. That's something that 'sticks with the Western Left because people don't think about it too hard'? Western supporters keep raising the issue here, sure, but in the end it's Tibetans who have risen up over and over again rejecting Communist Party rule, you colossal douche. Stop trying to strip their agency and putting everything on the 'Western Left'

Jesus you're dumb.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
So I heard Xi whatever likes to post on noted image board 2chan.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
This isn't a thread to get sa banned in China, but a plan to draw out all the colonial apologists and the racists.

Oh and your threats are too milquetoast. Falun gong constantly have banners like 天滅中共! 沒有共產黨,才有新中國!

Heavens smite the CCP! With out the cup, then a new China will form (play on one of the party songs).

We need to write stuff like let's kill all the officials who moved to America and have them reveal all the party state secrets.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
China's destruction of its cultural heritage, whether in the Cultural Revolution or placing many important historical sites underwater with the Three Gorges Dam, is an atrocity and a diminishes the collective cultural wealth of humanity.

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

drilldo squirt posted:

Jesus you're dumb.

Was he being insincere? Not really familiar with his posting, but these are things that Real People sometimes say about Tibet when they've learned about it through China...

Uh, to fit in with the current Posting Theme, Free The (real) Panchen Lama!

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

caberham posted:

This isn't a thread to get sa banned in China, but a plan to draw out all the colonial apologists and the racists.

Oh and your threats are too milquetoast. Falun gong constantly have banners like 天滅中共! 沒有共產黨,才有新中國!

Heavens smite the CCP! With out the cup, then a new China will form (play on one of the party songs).

We need to write stuff like let's kill all the officials who moved to America and have them reveal all the party state secrets.

This is a thread where we plan how to get something awful blocked in china.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003


Free Hawaii

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Spazzle posted:

Free Hawaii

This isn't about me or my cool rear end country dude. This is about how china is a poo poo country run by fascists.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Free Macao.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Free Hunan!

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

The truth is, Japan really did nothing wrong. They where just concerned about ethics in videoFuck me that jokes getting old.

Um. Free tibet?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
There are really two Chinas.

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Nov 2, 2012

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