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theblackw0lf posted:I think Obama's decision to postpone executive action on immigration reform horribly backfired. I think Obama's decision to not forcibly share his 2008 economic populism mojo with his party backfired too.
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theblackw0lf posted:I think Obama's decision to postpone executive action on immigration reform horribly backfired. I think part of it was the democratic party's run on gun control legislation 2013-2014. That really fired up the GOP base and was just utterly stupid by all democrats involved.
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Mitt Romney posted:I think part of it was the democratic party's run on gun control legislation 2013-2014. That really fired up the GOP base and was just utterly stupid by all democrats involved. Except for Malloy, Cuomo, and (apparently) Hickenlooper, that is.
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Mitt Romney posted:I think part of it was the democratic party's run on gun control legislation 2013-2014. That really fired up the GOP base and was just utterly stupid by all democrats involved. The biggest winner tonight was obviously mass murder
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm pretty excited that my congresswoman is on track to being some sort of anime superheroine: You voted for her too? 
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Really the Democrats' failure to recognize that Obama's half-assed vague language towards economic populism in 2008 and 2012 delivered him landslide victories and could suggest it might be a winning issue was pretty dumb imo.
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FAUXTON posted:Except for Malloy, Cuomo, and (apparently) Hickenlooper, that is. well, it did somehow seem to cost Hickenlooper his Senator
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Shear Modulus posted:Really the Democrats' failure to recognize that Obama's half-assed vague language towards economic populism in 2008 and 2012 delivered him landslide victories and could suggest it might be a winning issue was pretty dumb imo. Well the truth is actually somewhere in the middle. Lemme tell you about something we like to call the Third Way...
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Nov 5, 2014 08:41
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Aurubin posted:Well the truth is actually somewhere in the middle. Lemme tell you about something we like to call the Third Way... This is why Hillary stands 50/50 odds of losing in 2016 when put up against Christie.
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Nov 5, 2014 08:42
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PupsOfWar posted:well, it did somehow seem to cost Hickenlooper his Senator I'd be the last one to accuse gunbunnies of shooting straight, so sure, I guess you can mount that head on your wall.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm pretty excited that my congresswoman is on track to being some sort of anime superheroine: sinema huh
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Nov 5, 2014 08:47
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Ben Casselman, 538's Economics Writer posted:So voters want a higher minimum wage, legal pot, abortion access and GOP representation. Ok then. https://twitter.com/bencasselman/status/529848264204767232
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Nov 5, 2014 08:48
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Ninjasaurus posted:You voted for her too? I was an election observer today and apparently I missed out on all the excitement in Tempe. I heard that some clever nerd had set up a computer at a polling station where college students could print out bills to prove their residence. I guess the police got involved but I think it's a fantastic idea. I'm going to start looking to see how inexpensive a setup I can come up with to see if I can find a way to put that at every polling station in the city.
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Nov 5, 2014 08:51
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Straight {R} ticket won in Georgia today AND all three dumbshit amendments won. One of which was a cap on state income tax. gently caress this state.
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Nov 5, 2014 08:51
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When the Democrats' national message as a party becomes completely incoherent/non-existent? This actually adds up.
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Shear Modulus posted:Really the Democrats' failure to recognize that Obama's half-assed vague language towards economic populism in 2008 and 2012 delivered him landslide victories and could suggest it might be a winning issue was pretty dumb imo. This is true, but the "New Democrat" types still control a lot of the purse strings and decision making in the party and various affiliated groups. Which means that any candidate who leans hard into populist economic rhetoric is going to find a lot of doors closed to them. All of the minimum wage ballot initiatives passed, you'd think that Democrats would yoke themselves to that and other similar pushes. But I think the Obama/Clinton/Booker/etc. wing of the party sees that as pandering to the mob and finds it personally distasteful, as well as a threat to their vision for the party, and they're running things for the foreseeable future. Shear Modulus posted:Gun control is going to be a losing issue for the Dems for at least a generation in a parallel vein to gay marriage being a losing issue for Republicans for the forseeable future. Any Democrat who so much as mentions guns when economics are a bona fide winning issue is a grade-A moron. Yeah, this is just basically wishful thinking/delusion on the part of bugfuck crazy gun nuts. The one exception is in small ultra-low turnout elections where the crazies stockpiling guns for RAHOWA will make up a significant part of the 15% of the electorate that votes. The Insect Court fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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At least in Kentucky it seems like the only thing the Grimes campaign didn't do was air a commercial with her literally shooting herself in the foot repeatedly with a shotgun. Quite a few of the elections also suffered from poor Democratic candidates as well as the aforementioned party issues.
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Nov 5, 2014 09:02
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Looks likely to be a Dem pickup in NE-02, where earlier in the campaign the incumbent 8-term congressman got masterfully trolled by a mentally ill serial killer who he'd used as a Willie Horton-style bludgeon against the challenger who is currently ahead by 3k votes with all but some absentee ballots outstanding.
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CO gov margin is now 0.0% edit: hick now up by 600 votes 
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Nov 5, 2014 09:37
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Looks like Keith Ellison, the only black Muslim to have ever been elected to the US House, keeps his seat. e: Jared Polis, congress' first gay dad, also got re-elected. And Mark Takano, the first gay, non-white congressman. I guess we can all have a little clap for the GOP managing to elect two black people and several women, though. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Jagchosis posted:with 100% reporting, landrieu actually got a plurality of votes. good sign for run offs, maybe I don't think so, she just barely got plurality and she's double digits behind the sum of the top two Republicans.
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Jagchosis posted:with 100% reporting, landrieu actually got a plurality of votes. good sign for run offs, maybe All the reporting I've seen is decidedly down on Landrieu in a runoff, since it will just amplify Democrats' turnout problems. On another subject, what does this mean for immigration reform? Obviously it's dead in Congress(although DC hairpieces will continue to pontificate for the possibility of bipartisan reform if the prez would just "lead") but will Obama pussy out again? I'd hope not, but it's not like he wasn't willing to commit a huge unforced error on it before. It's like the White House is scared shitless of the possible downsides, and ends up freezing and doing nothing which damages them more than action would have.
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Okay, so, people who understand the political process better than me; How much can the republicans gently caress us with what they have now? Is it just going to be more of the same gridlock as long as Obama's in office, or do they have the power to actually do some damage?Greataval posted:Another mid term election and the dems trip over themselves losing again color me surprised. I know, right? I feel like it's 2010 all over again. 
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Lycus posted:I don't think so, she just barely got plurality and she's double digits behind the sum of the top two Republicans. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2002/pages/states/LA/ it's not super different from how she did in initial voting in 2002. i think that this election is probably unpredictable and also louisiana's electoral system is dogshit.
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Mirthless posted:Okay, so, people who understand the political process better than me; How much can the republicans gently caress us with what they have now? Is it just going to be more of the same gridlock as long as Obama's in office, or do they have the power to actually do some damage? Now they get to pass laws and when Obama vetoes them they can say "look Obama is obstructionist!" Course, those laws will be, in order of importance: 1. Repealing Obamacare 2. Repealing Obamacare 3. Repealing Obamacare 4. Repealing Obamacare 5. Defunding Obamacare 6. Repealing Obamacare 7. Establishing a permanent standing committee to investigate Benghazi Actually, just kidding, the Dems will filibuster things and still get blamed for obstructionism.
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Nov 5, 2014 10:15
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mia love has been elected to the house of representatives
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JosefStalinator posted:Now they get to pass laws and when Obama vetoes them they can say "look Obama is obstructionist!" So it's more of the same stupid bullshit. Great!
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Mirthless posted:So it's more of the same stupid bullshit. Great! they took a couple of state governments though and got reelected in states they've already ruined, so expect those to get worse!
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Jagchosis posted:http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2002/pages/states/LA/ I just disagree that it isn't super different when her run-off challenger gets 41% of vote to her 2002 challenger's 27%.
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Lycus posted:I just disagree that it isn't super different when her run-off challenger gets 41% of vote to her 2002 challenger's 27%. that just suggests an opposition that is more unified around a single candidate. republican candidates still pulled 51% in the first round of voting against her in 2002. Plus the 2014 run off will be shortly after whatever idiot government shutdown poo poo the GOP does with their newfound electoral confidence, which will prolly bolster her (certainly more than an unusually good year for republican candidates). I'm not trying to unskew polls here i'm just saying she might actually survive this debacle, as landrieus are wont to do. in raises i actually care about : hick now has an 8k lead
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Amphion posted:Roll Call Politics @rollcallpols 5m5 minutes ago poo poo, my former Congressional boss is out. 
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Axetrain posted:Democrats don't run on populist economic issues because they first and foremost are a party for the wealthy aristocracy. Hope that helps! This is why people end up accusing Democrats as being functionally the same as Republicans, by the way.
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@OWHNews (Omaha World-Herald) posted:Last #NE02 update tonight: Unless that son of a bitch can pull a rabbit out of his fat rear end and win like 60% of those remaining ballots, 6-term incumbent Republican Lee Terry is going down. An earlier batch of absentee/early voter ballots were validated at 3:30 and only increased Ashford's lead.  I'm sure transcanada will love you on their GR staff.
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Nov 5, 2014 11:11
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What's fun is the top thing at Reddit right now is OREGON MAKES WEED LEGAL! My generation...
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Nov 5, 2014 11:20
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Maybe California should've went ahead and did weed this year instead of waiting til 2016.
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Aurubin posted:What's fun is the top thing at Reddit right now is OREGON MAKES WEED LEGAL! My generation... Reddit shouldn't be used as a metric to judge... anything really.
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FAUXTON posted:Looks like Keith Ellison, the only black Muslim to have ever been elected to the US House, keeps his seat. Andre Carson will be surprised to learn he's either not black, not Muslim, or both.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Reddit shouldn't be used as a metric to judge... anything really. Well, as dear to my heart as the D&D peanut gallery is, it's probably more representative, of at least a certain subset of white males, than this place
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