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So the other day I was watching a vid on the implausibility of GunBlades. And it got me all thinking about stuff in video games we take for granted. Like falling in an arc in 2D games, rocket jumping in some FPSs and double jumping. So let's start by talking about double jumping. To achieve it (if it were REAL) would one need to desend to have something to "push off" of. Or could one just us upward momentum to "jump" again?
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AgentCack posted:So the other day I was watching a vid on the implausibility of GunBlades. And it got me all thinking about stuff in video games we take for granted. Like falling in an arc in 2D games, rocket jumping in some FPSs and double jumping. I keep a spacebar in my pocket.
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Nov 13, 2014 05:07
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Or an ordinary rock.
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Nov 13, 2014 05:12
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There WOULD be a need for some sort of upward thrust for the 2nd jump though...
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Nov 13, 2014 05:28
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AgentCack posted:So let's start by talking about double jumping. To achieve it (if it were REAL) would one need to desend to have something to "push off" of. Or could one just us upward momentum to "jump" again? That depends entirely on how it works. Since you're starting with the premise of "if it were real" you can make it work any way you like, because it's not real and it doesn't work any way at all. You may as well ask "if vampires were real, would they be allergic to garlic?" Sure, if you want. They're not real so there's no answer.
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Nov 13, 2014 08:21
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AgentCack posted:There WOULD be a need for some sort of upward thrust for the 2nd jump though... Hurl the ordinary rock down hard enough and you're good!
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Nov 13, 2014 08:24
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AgentCack posted:So the other day I was watching a vid on the implausibility of GunBlades. And it got me all thinking about stuff in video games we take for granted. Like falling in an arc in 2D games, rocket jumping in some FPSs and double jumping. Yes lets think really hard about mario's jump accel against goombas
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Nov 14, 2014 11:51
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Gunblades are real though  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword
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Nov 14, 2014 12:54
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What you do is you do some sick kickflips off the air molecules. In theory you could go quite some distance.
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Nov 14, 2014 13:34
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Morholt posted:Gunblades are real though Science nerd op just got owned by history nerd
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Nov 14, 2014 14:08
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What was the first video game to even have the double jump? Because, really, it is a totally implausible and dumb idea, but it's also become so ubiquitous. Like what was the pioneer?
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Nov 14, 2014 14:23
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Does Mario jumping on a falling Goomba count?
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Nov 14, 2014 14:24
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Klonoa double-jumps by hurling an enemy (usually a Moo) with mass roughly equal to himself straight downwards. Since total momentum is conserved in the Klonoa-Moo system, for the Moo to be thrown downwards, Klonoa must experience an equal and opposite recoil upwards. In theory, you could calculate the ratio of their two masses by comparing the impulses the two bodies exert on one another. However, as the gravity in the various dream worlds Klonoa travels through is unknown this is still not sufficient to mass Klonoa. However, we are not without hope. In 2002, Klonoa competed in a beach volleyball tournament - and volleyballs are usually standardized. If we make the assumption that the Moo-patterned volleyball used in the tournament meets the same standard as our volleyballs, and that the court is the same dimensions, it would be possible to measure the velocity at which Klonoa hurls a volleyball. At this point, all sorts of useful measures fall out of simple calculations. (The mass of Klonoa or any given enemy, the strength of the gravitational field in any given dream world, the lift exerted by the propeller of a Teton, and so on.)
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Nov 14, 2014 14:35
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:What was the first video game to even have the double jump? Because, really, it is a totally implausible and dumb idea, but it's also become so ubiquitous. Like what was the pioneer? My guess is it came from glitches related to whether a character can jump or not. Someone accidentally delayed the "can jump" check by one jump and discovered this led to both nice combat maneuvers and cool puzzle jumps. Even a few NES-era games tried to justify their double jumps with some manner of technological reason or tonal consistency (space jump is an anti-gravity device, Arthur double jumps because it's a game where losing his armor means he's just in his undies, jetpacks in quite a few other games). It's a nice power fantasy that doesn't detract from the game's ability to be difficult, it's intuitive to a casual player and can broaden the scope of an otherwise simple game. To a designer, this was easily recognised as A Good Thing. Great Joe fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 14:39
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In the Devil May Cry series, Dante can jump off of walls. When you get the double jump ability, it is shown to actually be Dante materializing a floor beneath for him to jump off of. Hope this helps, OP.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:41
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Someone please review the physics behind Asura's Wrath.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:56
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Seshoho Cian posted:In the Devil May Cry series, Dante can jump off of walls. When you get the double jump ability, it is shown to actually be Dante materializing a floor beneath for him to jump off of. Hope this helps, OP. Dante also uses his Demon powers to manifest bullets in his guns so he never runs out of ammo. Solid Snake needed a really long bandana to do it, and Big Boss just needed some face paint, or a gun with the feeding mechanism in the shape of an infinity symbol. None of these methods have been proven to work in real life, unfortunately.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:00
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That loving Sned posted:None of these methods have been proven to work in real life, unfortunately. I use my demon powers to keep my Doritos clip from running out mid-fight. 
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Nov 14, 2014 22:05
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Solid Snake had the outrageous ability to detect laser beams by blowing cigarette smoke. Yeah, I'm sooo sure there are magic cigarettes you can keep in your stomach, vomit them out hours later, and on top of that they emit sci-fantasy smoke that reveals lasers? Ridiculous.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:07
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Malcolm posted:Solid Snake had the outrageous ability to detect laser beams by blowing cigarette smoke. Yeah, I'm sooo sure there are magic cigarettes you can keep in your stomach, vomit them out hours later, and on top of that they emit sci-fantasy smoke that reveals lasers? Ridiculous.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:09
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Malcolm posted:Solid Snake had the outrageous ability to detect laser beams by blowing cigarette smoke. Yeah, I'm sooo sure there are magic cigarettes you can keep in your stomach, vomit them out hours later, and on top of that they emit sci-fantasy smoke that reveals lasers? Ridiculous. I'm actually really curious if a human being could actually smuggle smoke-able cigarettes in his stomach due to an injection that suppresses your stomach acids. Accordion Man posted:He also had a headband that gave him infinite ammo. Pardon me sir, it's a bandana. Although spell-check is insisting it's spelled bandanna.
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Nov 15, 2014 00:16
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How does physocs work in minecraft world. Why do trees and rocks float in the air. How is an entire waterfall contained in a water bucket. How is someone able to carry multiple stacks of 64 rocks that are each one half your size. Why. How.
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Nov 15, 2014 00:24
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I'm actually really curious if a human being could actually smuggle smoke-able cigarettes in his stomach due to an injection that suppresses your stomach acids. Couldn't you just seal it in a little plastic bag?
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Nov 15, 2014 00:26
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Nov 15, 2014 00:31
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Nicotine is a really, really loving deadly poison. You could kill yourself with a handful of cigarette butts soaked in water, I can't imagine smuggling cigarettes in your stomach would be great for your health.
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Nov 15, 2014 00:42
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Him managing to do this was explained in a codec call. The answer is Nanomachines. Not even joking.
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Nov 15, 2014 01:11
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K8.0 posted:Someone please review the physics behind Asura's Wrath.
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Nov 15, 2014 01:25
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:What was the first video game to even have the double jump? Because, really, it is a totally implausible and dumb idea, but it's also become so ubiquitous. Like what was the pioneer? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Buster
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Nov 15, 2014 01:27
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Let's talk about the physics in Senran Kagura.
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Nov 15, 2014 01:28
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Nanomachines, son.
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